A Post Racial President?

Response to comment:  "[Had an African American been White]...he could have been a scientist or engineer or an inventor..."

Obama has disappointed many who seemed to believe that he would be post-racial.  The polls are showing it after his "stupid" comment. 

Ken Ham and A. Charles Ware wrote a book entitled Darwin's Plantation:  Evolution's Racist Roots.  They say we must work on grace relations.  We should use the term "people groups" not "racial groups" because we are one race--the human race (Ac 17:26).  Ware says we should "refuse to let the darkness of the past shut out the light of a brighter tomorrow (pg. 162)."  He says:  "[M]any people gain power, prestige, and profit from...divisions (pg. 157)."

Response to comment [from a Muslim]:  "I've always found it funny, for people to be proud about something they have no control over. You have no control over what color skin you're going to have, nor what country you're born in. So why be proud of that fact?"

Skin color and ethnicity is given by birth not by choice.  A. Charles Ware says homosexuals have "hijacked [the civil rights] bus".  Skin color is not wrong.  Homosexuality is wrong (Ge 19, Leviticus 18, 29, Ro 1, 1 Cor 6).  Homosexuals are trying to equate the two.  African Americans are upset by this and they should be.  

"I've felt the need to kill people but I never went through with it."

And that would be normal.  It is normal to react with disgust in the presence of a homosexual.  But we control ourselves.  They can too because they were made in God's image (Mt 19:4).

"Only Allah can determine if what they did was wrong."

The scriptures clearly teach that homosexuality is wrong (Ge 19, Leviticus 18, 20, Ro 1, 1 Cor 6).  Of course we should love our neighbor (Ro 13:9) but we must judge rightly (Pr 31:9).  Telling our neighbor the truth is loving him.  Open rebuke is better than love carefully concealed (Pr 27:5).  The homosexual (like the murderer, the adulterer, the covetous, etc....) will be judged (1 Cor 6:9).  They must humble themselves and repent before God (Mic 6:8).  God loves us and he is willing to forgive our sins (1 Jn 1:9).      

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: [Disgust for homosexuality]  "[H]omophobia is a psychological problem..."

Homophobia (cringing at the thought of unspeakably, wicked behavior [Ro 1:27]) is a normal human response.  The world tries to diminish vile behaviors.  There may be cases of demonic activity (e.g. homosexual Hitler-types who ate carpet), but for the most part, we are speaking of evil men doing evil things.  They must be told that they need forgiveness.

A converted homosexual who is celibate is not a homosexual.  He is a man in God's image, living up to what God made him to be.  A converted drunkard who gave up drinking is not an alcoholic.  He is living sober as God intended him to live.   

With that said--I agree with you that all sin is wicked.  We should not necessarily pick on the homosexual, singling him out as the worst of the worst.  Homosexuality, like drunkenness, like covetousness can all be forgiven in Jesus (1 Jn 1:9).  Evil behaviors will manifest themselves physically, psychologically and spiritually (Jas 1:15) but what is needed is Christ not psycho-babble.

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Response to comment [from a Satanist]:  "You're a vulgar, unhinged cretin."

Can't we all just get along?

Response to comment:  "An alcoholic...who gives up drinking remains an alcoholic. You don't stop being an alcoholic."

Then they should eat alone the rest of their lives?  (1 Cor. 5:11).  If you are a thief, stop stealing.  If you are a drunkard, stop drinking (Dan 4:27, Isa 1:16). 

Response to comment:  "[God] is not worth my time."

They said the same thing before the flood came.  Lk 17:25-30:

"And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed."

Response to comment:  "Mm, so where did I say they should eat alone?"

You didn't say this.  Do you hold the Bible as an authority?  If you do, where is it written in the Bible that we should perpetually label people with a disease or disorder after they are found in Christ?   

"I said [an alcoholic/drunkard]...who gives up drinking remains an alcoholic".

You said this.  The world says this.  But it is contrary to the word of God.   

"I don't know were you got me saying 'then they should eat alone for the rest of their lives'...[W]here did you?"

We should "not...keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner— not even to eat with such a person (1 Co 5:11)."  When a man becomes saved, we should eat with him.  A person can be washed clean by the blood of Jesus (2 Cor 5:17). 

There is no reason to label a drunkard a drunkard for the rest of his life if he has come to faith and has stopped drinking (e.g. sinning).  There is no reason to label a homosexual a homosexual for the rest of his life if he has come to faith and has stopped sodomizing (e.g. sinning).  Such were some of you (1 Cor 6:11).  When a man is saved, his only remaining label is "Christian" or "Christ-follower" (Ga 3:28).  When we submit to the Lord, it liberates us.  We are freed from old ways.  Sins are buried in the grave of God's forgetfulness.  That is how we are loved--sanctifyingly.  

"I don't consider that a drinking alcoholic should eat alone for the rest of their lives, let alone a non-drinking alcoholic. I have plenty of alcoholic friends. Both drinking and not. I'll eat with all of them."

The proximity of the alcoholic or the homosexual around us is not the issue.  Of course these people are in our lives.  We must tell them that sin is wrong and it will be judged (1 Cor 6:9).  That is being a friend.      

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Civil rights are about fair and equal treatment. That's not any one group or person's specific heritage, although different groups have had to struggle for it in this country to differing degrees. Simply because a greater wrong has been done to one group, that does not negate or excuse the wrongs being done to another.

There's room on the civil rights bus for everyone, and sometimes homosexuals get to ride in front, too.  In fact, if civil rights were solely the domain of one group, it would lose all meaning for everyone."

What are the "wrongs being done to another"?  Implementing God's standards in law?  When societies abandon godly principles, they fail.  History has proven this.  When we believe liberals, murder, theft and destruction follow (Jn 10:10).

Homosexuals have hijacked the civil rights bus.  African Americans do not take kindly to being equated with homosexuals.  Skin color is not wrong.  Sodomy is wrong.  God has made that abundantly clear (Ge 19, Leviticus 18, 20, Ro 1, 1 Cor 6).   

Response to comment:  [When societies abandon godly principles, they fail (Jn 10:10)]  "Evidence?"

It's in that book you won't read: Ancient Egypt, Philistines, Assyrian Empire, Babylonian Empire, Persian Empire, Greek Empire, Roman Empire...

A Post Racial President?