An Introduction to the Doctrines of Grace: Limited Atonement
Johnny_B
The atonement is limited to those who repent (Acts
2:37, 38).
Grace777x70
...All people have the choice to either believe in Christ or not
believe when they hear the message of His death and
resurrection...
Not for the Calvinist.
God insists you love him.
Love does not insist on its own way (1 Co 13:5, ESV).
Grandpa
People don't elect themselves to become elect.
They elect themselves to be elect
but they do not elect themselves to repent (Mk 1:4, Jud 4).
Grandpa
...I suppose the argument is really over election. People don't
like that.
Ever notice that Calvinists are always
the elect?
Elite alert
SovereignGrace
...If the atonement is not applied to Satan...
God hates Satan. He hated Esau (Mal 1:3). He'll hate men who refuse to repent,
too. Matt. 3:8
Grandpa
I want to show that men cannot unless God Draws them.
Ro 3:11 God chooses us (Jn 3:16). We must choose him
(Ac 17:27).
SovereignGrace
...Even repentance is a gift of God.
It is. His offer is available to all
not just a special few. Those who appropriate the gift live. Acts 11:18
Show me with the bible where people become elect after they are
saved...
If you want to be elect be elect. This isn't brain surgery. Jn 3:16
SovereignGrace
People can not make themselves elect...
Then he only loves you, Calvinist not the whole world
as he said (Jn 3:16). He's willing for everyone to die but you (2 Pe 3:9)
because you're so lovely (Ro 3:12).
SovereignGrace
We just believe God elects, ye blokes believe you elect
yourselves.
Marriage is figurative of God’s union with Israel (Is.
54:5) and Christ’s union with His Church (Eph. 5:23–32). He has chosen us. We
have chosen him.
My former pastor used to ask a man, "Did you choose
your wife or did your wife choose you?" The answer didn't much matter. Each
chose one another.
MattforJesus
We can choose Him all day but we would not have salvation.
Jer 29:13
"They can't find Jesus for the same reason that a thief can't find a police
officer." ~ Adrian Rogers Jn 7:17
seed_time_harvest
[The atonement is limited to those who repent (Acts 2:37, 38).]
You got a point.
God
is a righteous judge, and a God who feels indignation every day.
If a man does not repent, God will whet his sword;
he has bent and readied his bow (Ps 7:11–12).
Johnny_B
[The atonement is limited to those who repent (Acts 2:37, 38).]
And is available to whoever/whosoever/everyone who the Lord
calls to Himself.
And he has called everyone (Jn 3:16, 2 Pe 3:9). He loved the world, not just you
(Matt. 9:13).
The Parable of the Wedding Feast
And again Jesus spoke to them in parables, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be
compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son, and sent his servants
to call those who were invited to the wedding feast, but they would not come.
Again he sent other servants, saying, ‘Tell those who are invited, “See, I have
prepared my dinner, my oxen and my fat calves have been slaughtered, and
everything is ready. Come to the wedding feast.”’ But they paid no attention and
went off, one to his farm, another to his business, while the rest seized his
servants, treated them shamefully, and killed them. The king was angry, and he
sent his troops and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. Then he
said to his servants, ‘The wedding feast is ready, but those invited were not
worthy. Go therefore to the main roads and invite to the wedding feast as many
as you find.’ And those servants went out into the roads and gathered all whom
they found, both bad and good. So the wedding hall was filled with guests.
“But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no
wedding garment. And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a
wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. Then the king said to the attendants,
‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place
there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ For many are called, but few are
chosen.” The Holy Bible: English Standard Version. (2016). (Mt 22:1–14).
Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.