Axelrod:  "...Do you have any evidence that it’s not..."

 

"CBS’s Bob Schieffer on Sunday mocked President Obama’s senior adviser David Axelrod for echoing last week’s unsubstantiated charge by a liberal website that the Chamber of Commerce is funneling foreign money to support Republican candidates.

“The New York Times looked into the Chamber specifically and said the Chamber really isn’t putting foreign money into the campaign,” said the Face the Nation host.

“This part about foreign money, that appears to be peanuts,” chided Schieffer..." Full text:
Schieffer Mocks Axelrod: Is Complaining About GOP Ad Dollars ‘The Best You Can Do?’ Isa 3:4.

 

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "If the GOP would disclose where all their hidden millions come from..."

 

Would you ask that of the Democrats as well?

 

"Sure, the Democrats tried to pass a bill requiring disclosure. The GOP killed the bill.  The GOP is apparently taking money from Iran, I hear. Do you deny it!"

 

The books should be opened for both parties.

 

What do you think of Axelrod's guilty before proven innocent statement?  

 

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "The reason must be that the GOP is taking dirty money (probably from Iran). Do you deny it?"

 

Proof please.

"...In a potential sign of Democratic unease with the White House midterm political strategy, some of President Obama's allies have begun to question his sustained attack on the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which has long claimed bipartisanship but is being increasingly identified as a GOP ally.

Some Democrats on Capitol Hill worry that the White House is going too far in charging that the politically powerful business lobby may be using foreign money to fuel its election efforts. The charge ignites strong feelings among job-hungry voters. But Democrats are concerned that it may be overstated and could harm moderate Democrats in swing districts..." 
Some Democrats uneasy with attacks on Chamber of Commerce
What do you think of their strategy? Are they ready to discuss the issues yet?

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "...painfully dumb"

 

This way of arguing?

John Doe: You beat your wife.
John Q Public: No I don't!
Jon Doe: Do you have any evidence that you don't?

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "It reminds of the 1960's and 70's when the League of Women Voter's was so rabidly Liberal that they wouldn't let a Conservative have the floor! I remember quietly exiting a meeting lest they discover I was a Conservative and tar and feather me!"

 

Lefties hate female conservatives. They'd like to skewer Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina.

Black conservatives!?--forget it, you're toast.

 

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "...[A]llege that the money comes from hostile foreign governments, and that they are too ashamed to disclose it."

 

How do you feel about untraceable gift cards being used to contribute to candidates?

"The president is being hypocritical about this. He had no problem at all with this when groups were spending money on his behalf in 2008 and not disclosing donors. He had no problem at all not disclosing his own donors, tens of millions of dollars of contributions to his campaign,” Karl Rove said on “GMA.”

“And now he turns around because Republicans have taken up and started doing the same things Democrats have been doing for years,” he said..."
Karl Rove on Disclosing Donors: Obama Is 'Hypocritical'

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "The thing is, that's merely dumb. But when you do it purposefully, knowing it's dumb, it becomes both dumb and dishonest. Which is just pathetic...

 

Double down--tu quoque fallacy.

 

"I hope the Dems keep it up."

 

See, this is my wish too--let 'em keep talking.

 

I think you need an argument style beyond Saul Alinksky tactics.

 

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "it's come out: the Chamber of Commerce DID in fact solicit and receive $900,000 from foreign governments."

"We are seeing an attempt to demonize specific groups and distract Americans from a failed economic agenda,” Bruce Josten, the chamber’s top lobbyist, said after Biden’s remarks. “With three weeks until Election Day, it’s time to return to the discussion that Americans care most about: job creation...” Full text:
Dems‘ Accusations of GOP ’Secret Foreign Money’ Go Unsubstantiated

 

 

 

"More on the Democrats ‘Foreign Money’ Hypocrisy...Lest anyone think that the Democrats’ charge that conservative PACs are accepting shady “foreign money” is anything but a cynical and desperate attempt to stave off disaster, a reminder of things we’ve learned in the last few days:

1) Brad Woodhouse, who is engineering the campaign to hit the U.S. Chamber of Commerce for not fully disclosing its donor list, and for using this mystery money to fund attack ads on Democrats in an election year, himself used to run a PAC that did not fully disclose its donor list, and that used this mystery money to fund attack ads on Republicans in an election year.

2) As Jonathan Adler noted here yesterday, the same Democrats who are complaining about PACs run by foreign-owned companies financing the Republicans have taken more than twice as much money from those groups.

House and Senate Democrats have received approximately $1.02 million this cycle from such PACs, according to an analysis compiled for The Hill by the Center for Responsive Politics. House and Senate GOP leaders have taken almost $510,000 from PACs on the same list.

The PACS are funded entirely by contributions from U.S. employees of subsidiaries of foreign companies. All of the contributions are made public under Federal Elections Commission rules, and the PACs affiliated with the subsidiaries of foreign corporations are governed by the same rules that American firms’ PACs or other PACs would face...."
More on the Democrats ‘Foreign Money’ Hypocrisy By Daniel Foster

 

Axelrod: "...Do you have any evidence that it’s not..."