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Response to comment [from a Catholic]:  "Catholics come home and that includes Jerzy."

Every wonder why so many fall away from the "church"?  A work-based faith provides nothing substantial.  People finally come to realize that they can't jump through all the hoops.  Thank God they finally come to the end of themselves.  When the do, Jesus is there (Eph 2:8).

Jerzy, you're not Snoopy.  Come to Jesus (Ac 17:27).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]:  "Catholicism is not "work-based," but rather grace-based."

How is a person saved?

"I would start with Acts 2:38..."

And then what?

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "Didn't go far enough?  Act 17:31..."

...and how do we get this righteousness?

[Where do we get righteousness?] "Different thread."

We clothe ourselves in Christ's righteousness (Isa 61:10).  We have none of our own.  If people insist on being judged by their works, they will be at the Great White Throne Judgment (Re 7:9, 20:11). 

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Roman Catholicism

False Teaching about the Trinity

Response to comment [from a Catholic]:  "[A]re those Catholic links?"

Can you view them without Rome's permission?  (Eze 13:19).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]:  "...[D]esire to glorify oneself..."

Christians give God the glory.  Roman Catholics attempt to steal God's glory for themselves.  This has never been done nor will it ever be done (Ga 6:7).  Roman Catholics teach: a different Jesus, a different gospel and a different way of salvation than historical, biblical Christianity.  Jesus made it clear that pious hypocrites have their reward (Mt 6:2, 16).

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Roman Catholicism

"Having received the Holy Spirit...Eucharist...and other sacraments...and take part in the Divine Liturgy of the People of God."

Your religion teaches a different gospel than historical, biblical Christianity (Eph 2:8).  Roman Catholicism is work-based.  Christianity is faith based.  

"We have different authorities, we believe different gospels, we worship different Christs, we are led by different spirits and we are on different paths to eternity.  Compare this with the unity the apostle Paul described with those who are in one body and one Spirit, with one hope; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, on God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all (Eph 4:4-6)." Proclaiming the Gospel Newsletter Vol 18 No. 4

Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30, Re 2:5,16; 3:3).  Be saved.  

Response to comment [from a Catholic]:  "There is nothing historical, rather than fundamentalist, about your brand of extreme Protestantism. From the earliest mainstream emergence of the church in the 3rd and 4th centuries the Catholic position was pretty well the mainstream one. What you are doing is simply taking a a historical, literal interpretation of context less passages from the scripture to form your very modern interpretation of Christianity. It mostly lacks a firm historical basis before the 16th century."

There was no Roman Catholic Church before Constantine.  See:  When did the Roman Catholic Church Begin by John MacArthur:

"You’d probably have to go back to about 325 with Constantine. Constantine really postulated the holy Roman Empire when he came to rule the Roman Empire and made Christianity the religion of the state, and set out to persecute anybody who was not a Christian. And so he sort of made Christianity into a political issue and from 325 on, the holy Roman kind of Empire...in other words, a sort of quasi-Christianity got linked in with the Roman Empire or with at least Constantine's Empire at that point, and it just kept developing, and developing...through the dark ages and finally it was shattered. And all the while, while it existed there were dissident groups...There were groups who had the truth; there was a true remnant outside the system, but it finally blew sky high under Martin Luther...[B]asically you go back to 325, I think, to find the real roots of the system. You could even find some of it earlier in what is known as the Nicene and the Post-Nicene fathers..." Full text:  When did the Roman Catholic Church Begin

Unfortunately, you have learned from the traditions of man.  Scripture (not Rome) is our final authority (Isaiah 8:20; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; Matthew 5:18; John 10:35; Isaiah 40:8; 1 Peter 2:25; Galatians 1:6-9).

"The “first church” is the church that is recorded in the New Testament, especially in the Book of Acts and the Epistles of Paul. The New Testament church is the “original church” and the “one true church.” We can know this because it is described, in great detail, in Scripture. The church, as recorded in the New Testament, is God’s pattern and foundation for His church. On this basis, let’s examine the Roman Catholic claim that it is the “first church.” Nowhere in the New Testament will you find the “one true church” doing any of the following: praying to Mary, praying to the saints, venerating Mary, submitting to a pope, having a select priesthood, baptizing an infant, observing the ordinances of baptism and the Lord’s Supper as sacraments, or passing on apostolic authority to successors of the apostles. All of these are core elements of the Roman Catholic faith. If most of the core elements of the Roman Catholic Church were not practiced by the New Testament Church (the first church and one true church), how then can the Roman Catholic Church be the first church? A study of the New Testament will clearly reveal that the Roman Catholic Church is not the same church as the church that is described in the New Testament.

The New Testament records the history of the church from approximately A.D. 30 to approximately A.D. 90. In the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th centuries, history records several Roman Catholic doctrines and practices among early Christians. Is it not logical that the earliest Christians would be more likely to understand what the Apostles truly meant? Yes, it is logical, but there is one problem. Christians in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th centuries were not the earliest Christians. Again, the New Testament records the doctrine and practice of the earliest Christians…and, the New Testament does not teach Roman Catholicism. What is the explanation for why the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th century church began to exhibit signs of Roman Catholicism?

The answer is simple – the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th century (and following) church did not have the complete New Testament. Churches had portions of the New Testament, but the New Testament (and the full Bible) were not commonly available until after the invention of the printing press in A.D. 1440. The early church did its best in passing on the teachings of the apostles through oral tradition, and through extremely limited availability to the Word in written form. At the same time, it is easy to see how false doctrine could creep into a church that only had access to the Book of Galatians, for example. It is very interesting to note that the Protestant Reformation followed very closely after the invention of the printing press and the translation of the Bible into the common languages of the people. Once people began to study the Bible for themselves, it became very clear how far the Roman Catholic Church had departed from the church that is described in the New Testament.

Scripture never mentions using "which church came first" as the basis for determining which is the "true" church. What it does teach is that one is to use Scripture as the determining factor as to which church is preaching the truth and thus is true to the first church. It is especially important to compare Scripture with a church's teaching on such core issues as the full deity and humanity of Christ, the atonement for sin through His blood on Calvary, salvation from sin by grace through faith, and the infallibility of the Scriptures. The “first church” and “one true church” is recorded in the New Testament. That is the church that all churches are to follow, emulate, and model themselves after..."  Full text:  What was the first / original church? Is the original / first church the true church?

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "Sorry man.  A Christian is one who follows the Christ....Are you a follower of Christ?"

It is not enough to "follow" Christ.  You must "follow" the right Christ--the Jesus of the Bible.  You do not.  We come to God on his terms--as a sinner.  Repent of your sins, then we can talk about "following" and walking with him (Re 2:5,16; 3:3).

I forget what the tally is, but Choleric will be adding your name to Satan, Inc. (ToL's Heretic's List) shortly.  The unofficial policy is: 

"I would rather not fill the list with fly by's who only stick around for a couple hundred posts or a few months. I am thinking 3 months and 500 posts as a minimum before they warrant being on the list."

Oh, you're going to be on the list alright.  You stated:  "The common teaching in the Christianity of today has it that the life eternal is subject to believe in the triune God, the Trinity....Alas, this is found nowhere in the scriptures neither is the word "Trinity" found....What is found instead is the word spoken by the Lord Jesus that the Father is the only true God and that the life eternal is subject to this belief."  [18 Oct 01:46 PM] 

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Satan Inc. (TOL's Heretic's List)

The doctrine of the trinity is of course true (Mt 3:16,17; 28:19; Ro 8:9; 1Co 12:3-6; 2Co 13:14; Eph 4:4-6; 1Pe 1:2; Jude 1:20,21; Re 1:4,5).  Divine titles are applied to all the three persons of the trinity (Ex 20:2; Joh 20:28; Ac 5:3,4).  Torrey, R. (1995, c1897). The new topical text book : A scriptural text book for the use of ministers, teachers, and all Christian workers. Oak Harbor, WA: Logos research Systems, Inc.

Roman Catholics have enough of their own problems being members of an apostate church.  Please, don't do us any favors sharing your false faith with them.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "Let me post it in full.  Jesus didn’t do any of his own works but the Father did His works through Jesus Joh 14:10."

You did post in full.  It's not getting any better.

You reject the deity of Jesus.  You are a false teacher.  Why don't you keep your false teaching in one thread regarding the trinity (or go away altogether).  When you get Jn 1:1-3 correct, then there is the whole of the Bible to discuss. 

Jesus, is the creator God (John 1:3, 10; 1 Cor. 8:6; Eph. 3:9; Col. 1:16, 17; Heb. 1:2, 10; Rev. 3:14). Swanson, J., & Nave, O. (1994). New Nave's. Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems.

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