Catholics are not Christians
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Catholics
are definitely not Christians."
Catholics need to repent. Come to
God on his terms--as a sinner (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30, Re 2:5,16; 3:3).
Understand what true repentance is.
See:
Proclaiming the Gospel, Vol 18 no. 4
Their purpose:
"The ministry was established in 1991 and is
incorporated in the State of Texas as a nonprofit
501(c)(3) corporation for the purposes
of: 1) glorifying, honoring and serving the
Lord Jesus Christ by proclaiming His Gospel
of man's redemption with clarity, conviction
and consistency; 2) providing evangelistic
training and resources with an emphasis
on biblical integrity; 3) exposing any doctrines
that oppose or nullify the Gospel of
grace so that people can discern truth from
error, avoid deception and come to the
knowledge of truth; 4) contending earnestly
for the faith against the agents of compromise
who suppress doctrinal truth for the
sake of ecumenical unity; and 5) encouraging
and supporting former Catholics who
may be feeling a sense of guilt, ostracism or
persecution from their family or friends for
leaving the Catholic religion and culture."
Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries
Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "Of course,
as a Catholic, I have done exactly that, and continue to do so every day."
Justification is a one time event.
We do not keep getting born again. Justification is by faith alone (Joh
5:24; Ac 13:39; Ro 3:30; 5:1; Ga 2:16) and is of God's grace (Ro 3:24; 4:16;
5:17-21). It is not of works as the Roman Catholic Church teaches (Ac
13:39; Ro 8:3; Ga 2:16; 3:11). It is not of faith plus works united as the
Roman Catholic Church teaches (Ac 15:1-29; Ro 3:28; 11:6; Ga 2:14-21; 5:4).
"Indeed, Catholics did so for some [I]fifteen-hundred
years[/I] before a single Protestant ever came on the scene."
Again, you appeal to tradition (ad antiquitatem)
not the word of God.
See:
Scripture vs. Tradition
Is A Roman Catholic Christian An Oxymoron?
Roman Catholicism
Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "Abraham
is said to have been justified on at least three separate occasions
throughout his life?"
Abraham was saved the same way every man is saved--by
grace through faith (Eph 2:8). He was prompted by faith (Heb. 11:8),
justified by faith ( Gen. 15:6; Rom. 4:3) and tested in offering Isaac (Gen.
22:1–19). He was a man of faith (Gen. 15:6).
[Roman Catholic Church and justification]
The Roman Catholic view on justification:
"Justification is a divine act where God declares the
sinner to be innocent of his sins. It is a legal action in that God declares the
sinner righteous -- as though he has satisfied the Law of God. This
justification is based entirely on the sacrifice of Christ by His shed blood:
"...having now been justified by His blood..." (Rom. 5:9).1 Justification is a
gift of grace (Rom. 3:24; Titus 3:7) that comes through faith (Rom. 3:28; 5:1).2
Christians receive Jesus (John 1:12) and put their faith-filled trust in what
Jesus did on the cross (Isaiah 53:12; 1 Pet. 2:24) and in so doing are justified
by God. The Bible states that justification is not by works (Rom. 3:20, 28; 4:5;
Eph. 2:8-9) because our righteous deeds are filthy rags before God (Isaiah
64:6). Therefore, we are saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ
alone.
Those who are justified are saved and salvation is a free gift (Rom. 6:23),
something we cannot earn (Eph. 2:1-10). However, Roman Catholic doctrine denies
justification by faith alone and says:
•"If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise
as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the
obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary,
that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be
anathema" (Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9).
•"If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified,
because he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is
truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith
alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema." (Canon
14).
Anathema, according to Catholic theology means excommunication, "the exclusion
of a sinner from the society of the faithful." The Greek word anathema is also
translated as "accursed" (Rom. 9:3; Gal. 1:8-9, NASB & KJV), "eternally
condemned" (Gal. 1:8-9, NIV), and "cursed" (Rom. 9:3, NIV),. We can see that
Roman Catholic theology pronounces a curse of excommunication, of being outside
the camp of Christ if you believe that you are saved by grace through faith
alone in Jesus.
Does the Roman Catholic Church specifically state that we are "saved by grace
and works"? Not that I am aware of and neither do the above Catholic Canons
state such a thing. But, when the Roman Catholic Church negates justification by
faith alone, it necessarily implies that we must do something for justification,
for if it is not by faith alone, then it must be by faith and something..."
Full text:
The Roman Catholic View on Justification
This struggle is not new.
"Almost forgotten, apparently, were Hagar and Ishmael.
Ishmael was now about sixteen years old (Genesis 16:16; 21:5), and for a
long time had been an only son. It was neither his fault nor his mother’s
that his birth had been a sort of accident, contrived due to a temporary
lapse of faith on the part of Abraham and Sarah; so it is easy to understand
his resentment at the unusual attention devoted to Isaac. God had also
promised his mother and father that he
would be blessed (Genesis 16:12; 17:20). Even though it was not right, it at
least is understandable that he would make fun of his little half-brother,
especially on the day of the great feast, where so much attention was being
showered on him.
Sarah, however, could not endure his mocking. She had
resented Ishmael and Hagar ever since Abraham had gone in to Hagar, even
though it was at her own insistence that he do so. She could see that the
rivalry between Ishmael and Isaac could only grow worse as time went on,
since only Isaac was destined to share in the covenant promises and his
father’s inheritance. No doubt this was a weakness in Sarah’s character.
Though she had attained a strong faith in God, she was still human, and
could simply not bring herself to love and care for Ishmael as she would her
own son. Accordingly, she began to pressure Abraham to send them away. She
called Hagar “this bondwoman” and Ishmael “the son of this bondwoman,” harsh
words for her personal maid of over twenty years and for a loved son of her
own husband. She insisted that Ishmael not be allowed to share in Abraham’s
inheritance, all of it going only to “my
son, Isaac.”
Abraham was a kind and generous man, as well as a loving
father. He had even interceded on one very important occasion with God on
behalf of Ishmael (Genesis 17:18). Sarah’s attitude was a source of grief to
him, and it was creating a real problem in the home. He simply did not know
how to work it out.
Again, however, God spoke to Abraham. Though Sarah’s
attitude was wrong in one way, she really was acting in consistency with
God’s own promises and plans. It really was not
possible for the two families to exist together, and Abraham should follow
Sarah’s request, even though it would go against his own personal feelings
and would no doubt seem harsh to others around them. Sometimes it is
necessary for God’s people, if they are truly going to be in the will of God
and to enjoy the fulness of His blessing, to separate completely from those
who might be a source of friction and carnality, even though such separation
will be difficult and will give others (who don’t understand the spiritual
issues involved) occasion to criticize and ridicule.
God, therefore, instructed Abraham to send Hagar and
Ishmael away. Isaac was the son of promise, and He had never intended
Ishmael to share in these promises in any way. Nevertheless, He assured
Abraham that He would take care of Ishmael. He need not fear that Ishmael
and Hagar would die if not cared for in Abraham’s home. To the contrary,
Ishmael would live and also become a nation.
This conflict between Sarah and Hagar, between Isaac and
Ishmael, has been appropriated in the New Testament as an illustration (Paul
calls it an allegory) of the continuing conflict between law and grace,
between the flesh and the spirit. In Galatians 4:22–31, the apostle Paul
develops this contrast at considerable length. Those who are born after the
flesh, he says, are the spiritual descendants of Hagar, great in number but
nevertheless under the Law, and they seek salvation through the impossible
task of making sinful flesh keep the Law of God. The Law speaks of the
Mosaic covenant, a conditional covenant, given on Mount Sinai in Arabia
(where Ishmael dwelt), and centered in the earthly Jerusalem.
Those who are to share in God’s heavenly promises,
however, centered in the heavenly Jerusalem (now being prepared by Christ
and destined some day to come down out of heaven to the new earth), are the
children of faith, like Isaac. The Law can never give life; but God’s
promise, received by faith, does give eternal life. These children of faith
are not in bondage to the Mosaic covenant, whose terms are impossible to
obey, but are under the Abrahamic covenant, given unconditionally and
appropriated solely by faith in the promises. Though those after the flesh
ridicule and persecute those after the spirit, it is the latter who will
ultimately receive the blessing. They are free,
not in bondage, as Sarah was a freewoman and Hagar a bondwoman. There must
be a separation between those who are in bondage and those who are free in
Christ.
The next morning after God spoke to him, therefore,
Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away, with bread and a bottle of water. In
view of Abraham’s wealth, this might seem a niggardly arrangement, and we
can only surmise that Abraham knew with certainty that God, as He had
promised, would take care of them. He realized that, apart from God, no
matter how much he gave them, it would not be enough; but
with God, they could not
lack. Quite possibly, he knew it would be for their own good if they would
quickly learn they must depend on God, and no longer on Abraham, to supply
their needs. However, the food and drink was no doubt enough to enable them
to reach another settlement at least, had they not become lost en route.
Archaeology has revealed that there were numerous
settlements at this time in the vicinity of what later was known as
Beersheba, and it seems that Hagar and Ishmael set out in this direction.
However, they lost their way. After wandering for some time, the water was
exhausted, and soon Ishmael was at the point of death. Either Hagar was more
accustomed to desert life than he or else, possibly, he had given most of
the water to his mother. He finally fell down, unable to continue, and Hagar
moved him under a shrub to give him a little shade from the heat. Unable to
help him further, and not wanting to see him die, she went a “bowshot” away,
sat down, and began to weep and pray. Ishmael apparently also was praying.
God had allowed them to come to the point where they could no longer endure
in their own strength and would have to depend on Him. And that, apparently,
was His purpose all along—that they, like Abraham, might learn to trust Him.
God heard them, and the “angel of God” (the same divine
personage, undoubtedly the preincarnate Christ, who had come to Hagar’s help
once before in the desert, before Ishmael was born) called to her out of
heaven. He assured Hagar He had heard their prayers and that, as He had
promised long ago, He would take care of them and make Ishmael a great
nation.
It is more than coincidental that, in Genesis 16:7, this
divine being is called “the angel of Jehovah.” Here he is called “the angel
of Elohim.” The reason for the change is that Jehovah is God’s covenant
name, and Hagar was in the first instance still under the roof and
protection of Abraham. Now, however, she has become a “stranger to the
covenant of promise,” and therefore the name of God which is used is the
name associated with creation and power, rather than redemption.
God is the God of all men, however, whether or not they
are embraced in His particular covenant with Abraham, and He was graciously
concerned with Ishmael and his mother. He provided water for them
immediately, from a well which He had either just created or which, if it
already was there, they had been unable before to see. Then, apparently
rather than going on to an uncertain reception in an unknown town, they
decided to remain where God had met with them and promised to care for them,
there in the “wilderness of Paran,” a desert region in what is now the Sinai
peninsula. Hagar, in fact, became so identified with Mount Sinai that Paul
could say “this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia” (Galatians 4:25).
Ishmael provided for himself and his mother by becoming
an archer. Eventually, he married a wife, obtained by his mother for him
from her people back in the land of Egypt. According to Genesis 25:13–15, he
finally had twelve sons, and thus the “great nation” God promised him had
begun."
Morris, H. M. (1976). The Genesis
record : A scientific and devotional commentary on the book of
beginnings. Includes indexes. (368). Grand Rapids, MI: Baker
Books.
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