Distant Stars in Young Universe?
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "I have heard that God may have created the light en route."
Distant Starlight:
When we peer into
the night sky, we
can see the light
from objects
billions of
light-years away. To
many astronomers,
this means that the
universe must be
billions of years
old. However, there
are many assumptions
inherent in such a
claim as well (the
speed of light has
always been
constant, e.g.). And
even if those
assumptions are
true, creation
astronomers have
developed many
cosmological models
that fit with our
current
understanding of the
universe, allow for
a recent creation,
and, in fact, make
more sense of the
data. (And don’t
forget that the big
bang model has its
own starlight
problem.)
See:
Does Distant Starlight Prove the Universe Is Old?
"The Assumption of Rigidity of Time...
...Many people assume that time flows at
the same rate in all conditions. At first, this seems like a very
reasonable assumption. But, in fact, this assumption is false. And
there are a few different ways in which the nonrigid nature of time
could allow distant starlight to reach earth within the biblical
timescale.
Albert Einstein discovered that the rate at which time passes is
affected by motion and by gravity. For example, when an object moves
very fast, close to the speed of light, its time is slowed down.
This is called “time-dilation.” So, if we were able to accelerate a
clock to nearly the speed of light, that clock would tick very
slowly. If we could somehow reach the speed of light, the clock
would stop completely. This isn’t a problem with the clock; the
effect would happen regardless of the clock’s particular
construction because it is time itself that is slowed. Likewise,
gravity slows the passage of time. A clock at sea-level would tick
slower than one on a mountain, since the clock at sea-level is
closer to the source of gravity.
It seems hard to believe that velocity or gravity would affect the
passage of time since our everyday experience cannot detect this.
After all, when we are traveling in a vehicle, time appears to flow
at the same rate as when we are standing still. But that’s because
we move so slowly compared to the speed of light, and the earth’s
gravity is so weak that the effects of time-dilation are
correspondingly tiny. However, the effects of time-dilation have
been measured with atomic clocks.
Since time can flow at different rates from different points of
view, events that would take a long time as measured by one person
will take very little time as measured by another person. This also
applies to distant starlight. Light that would take billions of
years to reach earth (as measured by clocks in deep space) could
reach earth in only thousands of years as measured by clocks on
earth. This would happen naturally if the earth is in a
gravitational well, which we will discuss below.
Many secular astronomers assume that the universe is infinitely big
and has an infinite number of galaxies. This has never been proven,
nor is there evidence that would lead us naturally to that
conclusion. So, it is a leap of “blind” faith on their part.
However, if we make a different assumption instead, it leads to a
very different conclusion. Suppose that our solar system is located
near the center of a finite distribution of galaxies. Although this
cannot be proven for certain at present, it is fully consistent with
the evidence; so it is a reasonable possibility.
In that case, the earth would be in a gravitational well. This term
means that it would require energy to pull something away from our
position into deeper space. In this gravitational well, we would not
“feel” any extra gravity, nonetheless time would flow more slowly on
earth (or anywhere in our solar system) than in other places of the
universe. This effect is thought to be very small today; however, it
may have been much stronger in the past. (If the universe is
expanding as most astronomers believe, then physics demands that
such effects would have been stronger when the universe was
smaller). This being the case, clocks on earth would have ticked
much more slowly than clocks in deep space. Thus, light from the
most distant galaxies would arrive on earth in only a few thousand
years as measured by clocks on earth. This idea is certainly
intriguing. And although there are still a number of mathematical
details that need to be worked out, the premise certainly is
reasonable. Some creation scientists are actively researching this
idea.
Assumptions of Synchronization...
...Another way in which the relativity of
time is important concerns the topic of synchronization: how clocks
are set so that they read the same time at the same time.4
Relativity has shown that synchronization is not absolute. In other
words, if one person measures two clocks to be synchronized, another
person (moving at a different speed) would not necessarily measure
those two clocks to be synchronized. As with time-dilation, this
effect is counterintuitive because it is too small to measure in
most of our everyday experience. Since there is no method by which
two clocks (separated by a distance) can be synchronized in an
absolute sense, such that all observers would agree regardless of
motion, it follows that there is some flexibility in how we choose
what constitutes synchronized clocks. The following analogy may be
helpful.
Imagine that a plane leaves a certain city at 4:00 p.m. for a
two-hour flight. However, when the plane lands, the time is still
4:00. Since the plane arrived at the same time it left, we might
call this an instantaneous trip. How is this possible? The answer
has to do with time zones. If the plane left Kentucky at 4:00 p.m.
local time, it would arrive in Colorado at 4:00 p.m. local time. Of
course, an observer on the plane would experience two hours of
travel. So, the trip takes two hours as measured by universal time.
However, as long as the plane is traveling west (and providing it
travels fast enough), it will always naturally arrive at the same
time it left as measured in local time.
There is a cosmic equivalent to local and universal time. Light
traveling toward earth is like the plane traveling west; it always
remains at the same cosmic local time. Although most astronomers
today primarily use cosmic universal time (in which it takes light
100 years to travel 100 light-years), historically cosmic local time
has been the standard. And so it may be that the Bible also uses
cosmic local time when reporting events.
Since God created the stars on Day 4, their light would leave the
star on Day 4 and reach earth on Day 4 cosmic local time. Light from
all galaxies would reach earth on Day 4 if we measure it according
to cosmic local time. Someone might object that the light itself
would experience billions of years (as the passenger on the plane
experiences the two hour trip). However, according to Einstein’s
relativity, light does not experience the passage of time, so the
trip would be instantaneous. Now, this idea may or may not be the
reason that distant starlight is able to reach earth within the
biblical timescale, but so far no one has been able to prove that
the Bible does not use cosmic local time. So, it is an intriguing
possibility..." Full text:
Does Distant Starlight Prove the Universe Is Old?
Also see:
Response to comment [from a pagan]: "So God created the image of the stars and then the stars themselves?"
1. "[I]t is
important for us to
let the language of
God’s Word speak to
us. If we come to
Genesis 1 without
any outside
influences, as has
been shown, each of
the six days of
creation appears
with the Hebrew word
yom qualified by a
number and the
phrase “evening and
morning.” The first
three days are
written the same way
as the next three.
So if we let the
language speak to
us, all six days
were ordinary earth
days.
2.The sun is not
needed for day and
night. What is
needed is light and
a rotating earth. On
the first day of
creation, God made
light (Genesis 1:3).
The phrase “evening
and morning”
certainly implies a
rotating earth.
Thus, if we have
light from one
direction, and a
spinning earth,
there can be day and
night.
Where did the light
come from? We are
not told,27 but
Genesis 1:3
certainly indicates
it was a created
light to provide day
and night until God
made the sun on Day
4 to rule the day.
Revelation 21:23
tells us that one
day the sun will not
be needed because
the glory of God
will light the
heavenly city..."
Full text:
Could God Really
Have Created
Everything in Six
Days?
The godhead is:
the Father, the Son
(Jesus) and the Holy
Spirit.
You are without
excuse (Acts 17:29;
Rom. 1:20; Col.
2:9).
Distant Stars in Young Universe?