Gamara (a pro-abort, pro-homosexual, humanist) "My sperm cells are mine (Gamera)." :shocked: http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2348373#poststop

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things pwhich are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, 3sexual immorality, wickedness, 4covetousness, 5maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 6undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, 7unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, qknowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things rare deserving of death, not only do the same but also sapprove of those who practice them.
p Eph. 5:4
3 NU omits sexual immorality
4 greed
5 malice
6 without understanding
7 NU omits unforgiving
q [Rom. 2:2]
r [Rom. 6:21]
s [Ps. 50:18]; Hos. 7:3
The New King James Version. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1982, S. Ro 1:28-32

2 Peter 2:21, 22

A Pig is a Pig
"Come home with me," said the prodigal son.
"We'll sing and dance and have lots of fun.
We'll wine and dine with women and song.
You'll forget you're a pig before very long."
So the pig slipped out while mamma was asleep,
Shook off the mud from the mire so deep.
Around his neck was a bow so big,
He's gonna show the world a pig's not a pig!
With his snout in the air he trotted along
With the prodigal son, who was singin' a song.
It must be great to be a rich man's son.
He would surely find out 'fore the day was done.
It didn't take him long to realize his mistake–
He'd been scrubbed and rubbed 'til his muscles ached!
He squealed when they put a gold ring in his nose
And winced with pain when they trimmed his toes.
He sat at the table on a stool so high
A bib 'round his neck and a fork to try,
While the prodigal son, in his lovely robe,
Kept feeding his face, so glad to be home!
When the meat came around, the pig gave a moan.
It looked too much like a kind of his own.
He jumped from his chair with a grunt and a groan,
Darted through the door and headed for home.
His four little feet made the dust ride high,
For he didn't stop till he reached that sty!
It's what's on the inside that counts, my friend,
For a pig is a pig to the very end!
–Evelyn C. Sanders

GM (pro-abort)

"I'm so tired of having to show Christians how wrong they are about abortion and the bible." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2349392#post2349392

"...[A] fertilize egg isn't like a person." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2350032#post2350032

"A fertilized cell is part of a women's body." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2348356#post2348356

[A fertilized egg has become somebody (Jer 1:5).] "No, it's hasn't." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2348971#poststop

"I have disagreements with the Catholic Church, but I honor the good that it does, especially in helping the poor and in at least thinking deeply about important modern questions, like capitalism and poverty and abortion (though I disagree on this one)." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2351413#poststop

GM (pro-homosexual)

[Is homosexuality an abomination? (1 Kin. 14:24).] "No."

[Did God made us male and female? (Mt 19:4).] "No, evolution made us male and female." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2346624#post2346624

GM (humanist)

"[W]hen I ask you what the process was whereby the putative intelligent designer putatively designed life, you have no answer." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2351283#poststop

"From my perspective creationists are clearly the tool of [S]atan to destroy the Christian witness and discredit the gospels." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2349147#poststop

"...[T]he [B]ible must be wrong...Satan invented creationism." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2364054#poststop

[Did God create the world?] "Not in the way you claim."

[Should unborn children be protected?] "Only when they become children, which is the issue."

[Do you believe in miracles?] "No."

[Can natural laws can be broken?] "Natural laws aren't the kinds of law that are broken or not broken."

[Was Jesus resurrected from dead?] "Yes, in the gospel narrative, which is all that counts." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2346624#post2346624

"Your views are not dissimilar to the Pharisees."  Sound familiar?... 

SD:  "Was Jesus resurrected "in the narrative" or "in reality"?"

GM:  "We have the narrative, so the answer to the first question is yes.  We don't have a time machine so the answer to the second question is who knows or who cares. If God can save us by resurrecting Jesus, he can save us through a story about resurrecting Jesus. One isn't any more miraculous than the other." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2346699#poststop

GM:  Let's see if you can answer the following:

1. Is the mustard seed the smallest seed or is Jesus a liar? Mark 4:31

2. Should we pluck out our eyes whenever we sin? Matthew 5:29

3. Do you preach to animals and mushrooms? Mark 16:15

4. Did Luke lie when he said there was a famine over the entire world during Claudius' reign. Acts 11:28

5. Did all the world learn about the faith of Christians in Rome in the first century, including Peru? Romans 1:8

6. Is the earth in the shape of a footstool? Matthew 5:35 http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2348217#poststop

GM:

Matthew 19:5 - and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?

Matthew 19:6 - So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder."

Mark 10:8 - and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh.

Is Jesus saying that when people marry, they actually become a unified blob of flesh with their spouses? That doesn't seem to happen, so are you claiming Jesus is lying? http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2348317#poststop

Will not answer how he/she differs from these [aka PlastikBuddah] positions:

Are you a pro-abort?

[Re: pro-abortion (requiring nurses to provide the "morning after pill" against their will)]

PB: "Religious freedom doesn't cover the "freedom" not to do your job...If the law requires that this service be offered to rape victims than you can bet it most certainly is a conflict." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2245585#poststop

PB: "[R]eligious freedom doesn't include the freedom not to the job you agreed to do when you were hired." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2246238#poststop

PB: "When they signed up for the job they agreed to do those things which the job requires- in this case dispensing emergency contraception to rape victims. Don't like the terms of employment- work somewhere else...The law trumps the religious affiliation of the hospital providing services." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2246131#poststop

[Will not answer: Should we amend the Constitution for the personhood of unborn children? If an employer attempted to say that nurses must distribute chemical weapons for the purposes of killing children, should that be ruled unconstitutional?] http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2322945#poststop ...crickets...Roach


Are you pro-homosexual?

[Re: homosexuality]

SD: Are you in support of or opposed to homosexuality?

PB: "I am pro-equality and so is the constitution of this great nation-- if you don't like it, I'm sure you can find a border..." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2308914#post2308914

PB: "Not being anti-gay doesn't make someone pro-homosexual." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2322106&highlight=constant#post2322106

[Will not answer the following: Is homosexuality an abomination? (1 Kin. 14:24). Did God made us male and female? (Mt 19:4). Is is disgusting to God to act differently than we were created? (Deut 22:5).] http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2322945#poststop ...crickets... Roach

Are you a humanist?

[Re: young earth creation/materialism]

PB: "I won't apologize for loving truth...Hiding behind a book won't change reality...[P]eople come to associate Christianity...with anti-science dogma and superstition." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2308914#post2308914

[Did we evolve from monkeys? (Ge 1:26, Jas 3:9)]
PB: "[W]e share a common ancestor [with monkeys]." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2308928#post2308928

[So a monkey was not created a monkey and a man was not created a man? Man became a man over millions of years through the process of evolution?]
PB: "That is what the evidence indicates..." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2308941#post2308941

[Did God create the world in six literal days? (Ex 20:11; 31:17)]
PB: "Nope." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2308928#post2308928

[What hermeneutic do you use to oppose a six normal day creation? (Ex. 20:11; 31:17).]
PB: "The use of mythic imagery and symbolism, particularly combined with the scientific evidence, show that Genesis is not meant to a literal, historical revelation but an allegorical presentation containing spiritual truth...I use reason and evidence..." http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2308941#post2308941

PB: [What reason does scripture give you to spiritualize Genesis? Ex 20:11; 31:17. Do you spiritualize the resurrection of Jesus, too?] "Reason is indeed the reason. If the world is not what a literal reading of Genesis describes then it is either false or simply not meant to be read literally...Why do you make it your life's mission to make people NOT believe it? Why do you want to put His lamp under a bushel and portray His followers as sideshow freaks and uneducated six-fingered yokels?" http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2346555#poststop

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