US House of Representatives Pass Obamacare

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  [Obamacare]

The government has no right to steal from hard-working citizens (Ex 20:15). I like Bob Enyart's baseball bat analogy (I paraphrase):

If someone attempts to murder you, you can rightfully hit them over the head with a baseball bat to protect yourself (Gen. 9:5, 6; Num. 35:16–21, 30–33; Deut. 17:6).

If someone holds you captive in their basement, should you have the opportunity to hit them over the head with a baseball bat, you should (Ex. 21:16; Deut. 24:7).

If you have broken your leg and cannot afford healthcare to reset the bone are you permitted to go to your neighbor’s house and demand money threatening him with a baseball bat? No (Ex 20:15).

Government has certain responsibilities: Paternal functions of (Gen. 41:25–57). Civil service school provided by (Dan. 1:3–20). Maintains a system of public instruction (2 Chr. 17:7–9).

They are not permitted to steal.

God gave the tithe which was ten percent and even that was voluntary (1Sa 8:15,17).  Men rejected God's merciful rule and reign in favor of kings (1 Sam. 8:5, 6).   

Joseph, a type of Christ in scripture, was a good administrator.  Of course we see no Joseph-type in Washington today: 

Genesis 41:33–36
"Joseph continued speaking, after he had explained the events which God had revealed were coming on the land, to instruct Pharaoh in how he should prepare to meet the coming crisis. Instead of living every year on that year’s abundance, as the Egyptians had grown accustomed to doing, they would need to implement a sound program of savings—not of money but of grain.
Unfortunately, the people themselves could not be relied on to store up for the coming years of famine. Human nature being what it is, most people will spend all they earn, and more, for their immediate needs, both real and imagined. The few individuals who would indeed save for the future would be tempted to profiteer when opportunity came. Besides, the need was going to be so great that nothing less than a centrally administered plan could really be effective on a national basis.
On the other hand, a central bureaucracy could easily lead to despotism and cruelty, especially if all available food supplies were in the hands of a self-seeking dictator. The key to the success of such a plan, and the survival of the nation, would be the chief administrator. The right man would be a deliverer; the wrong man could become a tyrant.
Therefore, Joseph’s first recommendation was for Pharaoh to find the right man, a man who was possessed of both keen intellect and true wisdom, a man who could with confidence be placed over the whole land of Egypt to plan its future food production and distribution systems.
Then, this chief administrator should be provided with a corps of capable and trustworthy deputies to administer his plan. It would be necessary to levy a “double tithe” on the produce of Egypt during the years of plenty. It has been shown by historians that tithing was practiced in ancient Egypt and other nations, as a form of taxes or tribute to the king; but a 20 percent levy would be very unusual, and might well be resisted, especially if enacted by an unpopular sovereign. Thus, the chief administrator of this plan would have to be skilled in diplomacy and persuasion, as well as be of unquestioned integrity himself, in order to overcome the natural reluctance of the people to such a tax. Of course, resistance would be minimized in times of prosperity; so the plan could work if it was properly carried out.
The food which was gathered in this manner should, Joseph advised, then be preserved in large storehouses constructed for this purpose. The 80 percent that the people would have left would be more than adequate to meet all their needs, as well as the need for exports, during the seven plenteous years, and the rest would probably have been wasted anyhow. The food should be kept stored and guarded in depositories in key cities throughout the land, in order to have food available in the years of famine which would eventually come.
There is also a possibility that the grain was acquired by purchase, rather than by taxation. Scripture is not explicit on this point. In this case, the money must itself have come through taxes, so the effect would be the same. Because of the abundance, the price would have been low. However it was done, no one would have to suffer hardship, if it were handled judiciously and fairly. The key to it all would be to select the right administrator."
Morris, H. M. (1976). The Genesis record : A scientific and devotional commentary on the book of beginnings. Includes indexes. (583). Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books.

The social Democrats are destroying a man's freedom (given by God) to keep the fruits of his labors. 

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "...[Y]ou already were being forced to pay for other people. Now it will be cheaper, for ALL of us.  And snake? Healthcare reform was what Obama campaigned on, the people voted for him, he fulfilled his promise. This is underhanded exactly how?

People have the right to be left alone. Leftists spread misery not wealth and good care. The reason social Democrats get votes is because they promise hand outs. Government has no money that it did not first take from another person. A man has the right to keep the fruits of his labor. What they call "social justice" we call theft (Ex 20:15).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]:  "He said he was going to do this when he was running for president. He was overwhelmingly elected. What did you think would happen?"

Being overwhelmingly elected does not make it right (Ex 23:2).  This was not a bipartisan effort.  It was solely social Democrats.    

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "It's a democracy, those that win have the responsibility to govern."

We are a representative republic.

"The Republicans decided early on not to be part of the process but to say no to everything."

The Republicans had an alternate plan.  The social Democrats did this on their own.  Nearly 80% of the people were against it. 

"...in the end there would be no participation from the right no matter what."

The right participated but their ideas were rejected.  Tyranny and oppression is nothing new.  Compare Obama to Nimrod:

"Nimrod founded Babylon. He realized if the people would look to the government, they would no longer look to God (Enyart)."

“The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” –Margaret Thatcher

See: 

Beware of Leftists 

"The right lost and chose not to be part of the solution."

We all loose when we do not hold back the tyrannical forces of the left (Eccl 10:2).  When you reject God and his law (Ex 20:15), you loose your country.  The left is about equality.   The right is about liberty.

[People have the right to be left alone.]  "No, they don't actually. Not when people expect to get something for nothing already."

People expect to take what is not theirs.  That does not mean it is right (Ex 23:2).  It's called theft (Ex 20:15).  Again, the left is about equality (a European value).    The right is about liberty (an American value). 

We were founded as a Judeo-Christian nation.  This is why only Christians should lead.  Next time we should vote for the American.

John Jay:  "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."  John Jay, one of the framers of the Constitution, was appointed by George Washington in 1789 to be the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States (and later served two terms as governor of New York).  He wrote, in a private letter (1797) to clergyman Jedidiah Morse).

"Taxes are not theft..."

Biblically, any tax over 10% is highway robbery.  God gave the tithe which was ten percent and even that was voluntary (1Sa 8:15,17).  Men rejected God's merciful rule and reign in favor of kings (1 Sam. 8:5, 6).  Luckily, that will all be fixed one day (Re 1:7).  Man cannot rule and reign.  We see this. 

"Deregulators would allow companies to spread toxins all over the land in the name of "investment"."

You believe those on the right do not care about the planet or the environment? 

Just because we do not worship the planet, it does not mean that we believe man should destroy his environment.  We believe that man should be a good steward of the plant. 

We conservatives work so you don't have to (Prov. 21:20).

"The problem with healthcare is people expect to be able to show up to a hospital and be treated whether they can pay or not."

People expect all kinds of things.  That does not entitle them to steal from others (Ex 20:15).

"...all of this is a moot point. The bill is passed, deal with it."

Roll over and die?   

No , we will continue to fight leftists.  Their policies are godless and dangerous.  States will assert their rights.  The law is unconstitutional and we will work to repeal it.

US House of Representatives pass Obama-care