How Many on TOL are Grace Gospel Believers?

Cc: @heir @john w @glorydaz @exminister

What evidence do you have that you are sealed by the spirit? Mt 7:20 Tell us all about putting sin behind you and you new found relationship with your Lord and Savior.

If you claim a verse of scripture, be sure it belongs to you (Zech. 13:1, 1 Jn 3:14).

See:

The Power of the Resurrection Michael Youssef

Also see:

What is antinomianism?
What is easy believism?
What is Free Grace Theology?
What is cheap grace?
What is the emerging / emergent church movement?

Related:

Lordship
Has the Law has been done away with?
At patrick jane At john w At Nick At SaultoPaul At Musterion At heir At GloryDays At exminister At Grosnick Marowbe
Must We Confess Every Sin?
Give Your Life to Jesus
Where is Prince Now?
Kirk Cameron: Wives Should 'Honor and Respect and Follow Their Husband's Lead'
The Myth of Unmerited Favor and Grace
The Big Switch

Robert Pate View Post
"Few there be that find it" Matthew 7:14
How many do you think will be raptured? Let's see, there was Enoch... Gen. 5:24
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
...[W]hen one's eternal destination is at stake it's best to make sure you're believing in the one and only truth.

How has it changed you? Mt 7:20

See:

Your Friendly Enemy Genesis Adrian Rogers

patrick jane View Post
Oh, darn it Serpy

GM will now tell us how much he hates the world system (Jas 4:4).  

 

Your next thread: God lovin' me while I'm lovin' sin 1 Jn 2:15

glorydaz View Post
[See: The Power of the Resurrection Michael Youssef] Why do you keep doing this? Is it because you don't have assurance of your own salvation?

@exminister has answered that question for all of us (Eph 4:14).

Well, I didn't see what he said. I'm not sure how you could think anyone could answer for "all of us" though.

I'm not sure how he does that either (Eph 4:14).

Oh, well if I'm boring you, I'll just move along.

Num. 13:30



() is short for fallacious argument (Eph 4:14)--there are so many on the left (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).

New creatures don't love sin if that's what you're thinking.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

I'd ask GM to examine his new creatureness (2 Co 13:5). He'd take offense to that and place me on ignore (Eph 4:14).

[Lordship , Must We Confess Every Sin? , Give Your Life to Jesus ] Are you trying to make an argument of some sort?

No.

You had asked why I'm doing this. You heretofore mentioned were the ones who doth protested too much.


Avoid judgment by turning from sin (Jer 7:3–7).


Turn from sin (Jer 7:3-7). Turn to God (Deut 30:1–3).


On the day I settle accounts, I will hold them accountable for their sin (Ex 32:34).
Crucible View Post
Only God decides our fate...

Strawman Eph 4:14

He will not leave the guilty unpunished, bringing the consequences of the fathers’ wrongdoing on the children and grandchildren to the third and fourth generation (Ex 34:7).


...Everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous.

Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death. Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him (1 Jn 3:3–15).



See:

The Tragedy of Cheap Repentance Michael Youssef
chrysostom View Post
You have been redeemed but not saved.  You might be saved if you prove you can be trusted.


Ga 3:11, 5:4


Anyone who won’t take up their cross daily and follow him, is not worthy of him (Mt 16:24).


[The bible not written to Christians, all written to Israel] I think you need some new duds (Ac 1:7–8).

I've Got the Power ~ Bruce Almighty, Bruce Almighty
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
GG Believers are:

1) Christ-centered.
2) Bible believing.
3) Holy Spirit sealed and indwelt.
4) True members of the Body of Christ.
5) Guaranteed eternal life.
6) Unable to lose their position in Christ.
7) Have the Righteousness of Christ.
8) Won't be judged nor receive condemnation or punishment.
9) Realize they're not under the Law.
10)They're a Child of God.

Discuss repentance and sanctification before God (Mk 1:4, Heb. 2:11).
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
Anti-GG Believers:

1) GT
2) Jamie
3) Ben Masada
4) Nang
5) Crucible
6) Nanja
7) Predi
8) Dodge[/I]
9) SerpentTroll


How would you know anything about me? I'm non your ignore list, remember? Give us all your thoughts on God's holiness (Is. 11:4, 5).
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
[Thoughts on God's holiness?
Is. 11:4, 5 ] It is what it is, SerpentTroll, whether you like it or not.

Move over Sophocles (Ingraham). Eph 4:14
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
[Give us all your thoughts on God's holiness (Is. 11:4, 5). ] You might want to learn how to use "Spell Check."

How would know if I can spell or not? I'm on your ignore list, remember. For being on your ignore list, you sure read a lot my replies (Eph 4:14).
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
The [u]nbelievers...[T]rust in their works/deeds...

The only work you can do is rest (Heb 4:10, Mt 12:8).


Grosnick Marowbe View Post
I'm proud to call GG Believers my Brothers and Sisters in the Lord.

You are proud (Pr 16:18).

If you love Me, you will keep My commandments (Jn 14:15, emphasis mine).

Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him." (Jn 14:21, emphasis mine).

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him (Jn 14:23, emphasis mine).

If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and remain in His love (Jn 15:10, emphasis mine).

"Jn 14:18-24 ... Having Christ's commands, we must keep them. And having them in our heads, we must keep them in our hearts and lives. The surest evidence of our love to Christ is, obedience to the laws of Christ. There are spiritual tokens of Christ and his love given to all believers. Where sincere love to Christ is in the heart, there will be obedience. Love will be a commanding, constraining principle; and where love is, duty follows from a principle of gratitude. God will not only love obedient believers, but he will take pleasure in loving them, will rest in love to them. He will be with them as his home. These privileges are confined to those whose faith worketh by love, and whose love to Jesus leads them to keep his commandments. Such are partakers of the Holy Spirit's new-creating grace." Henry, M. (1994). Matthew Henry’s commentary on the whole Bible: complete and unabridged in one volume (p. 2015). Peabody: Hendrickson, emphasis mine.


For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God (Ro 8:13–14, emphasis mine).
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
This thread is about GG Believers, remember?


Greasy grace (2 Pe 2:1). Got it (2 Ti 3:5).
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
...A Grace Gospel Believer is one who knows how to Rightly Divide the Scriptures...

They weren't written to you...for you, remember? 2 Pe 2:1

"One of the first lessons we must learn in reading the Bible is to distinguish between that which is written to us and that which is written for us. Not all the Bible is directed to us, but all the Bible is for us." ~ J. Vernon McGee 2 Ti 3:16
Grosnick Marowbe View Post
One of your problems...

You can't know any of my problems because you have me on ignore, remember? Eph 4:14
popsthebuilder View Post
I admit my ignorance in reference to God's grace believers, and what the difference is between them and any other believer...

Greasy grace teachers will be the ones in heaven with all the blood on their hands. They assure men that they are saved when they live like the devil. Those headed to hell will point at the greasy grace teacher and say, "But greasy grace teacher assured me that I was saved because I: signed a card, walked down an aisle, got baptized in a church..." Etc.

Two people know if you are saved--you and God. If you are led by the spirit, you belong to God (Ro 8:14).

“Son of man, I have made you a watchman over the house of Israel. When you hear a word from My mouth, give them a warning from Me. If I say to the wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him—you don’t speak out to warn him about his wicked way in order to save his life—that wicked person will die for his iniquity. Yet I will hold you responsible for his blood. But if you warn a wicked person and he does not turn from his wickedness or his wicked way, he will die for his iniquity, but you will have saved your life. Now if a righteous person turns from his righteousness and practices iniquity, and I put a stumbling block in front of him, he will die. If you did not warn him, he will die because of his sin and the righteous acts he did will not be remembered. Yet I will hold you responsible for his blood. But if you warn the righteous person that he should not sin, and he does not sin, he will indeed live because he listened to your warning, and you will have saved your life.” Eze 3:16–21

...Greasy grace teacher will take scissors to this passage of scripture by the way.

How Many on TOL are Grace Gospel Believers?