How Much Can I Get Away With?

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]:

 

glorydaz View Post
Only a natural man of the flesh would even ask that question.

 

intojoy View Post
Nope.  Baby believers too! And carnal believers.
glorydaz View Post
I disagree.

"Baby believers" are freshly delivered from the world....they have the simple faith of a child. Their thought is not how much sin they can get away with, but are rejoicing in how much sin has been forgiven them.

"Carnal believers" are still under the law...thus not believers at all. They aren't dead to sin, therefore they are still striving to enter into the rest by their own efforts.

intojoy View Post
Those are nice observations. However the scriptures indicate clearly otherwise. For example Peter says to desire the milk of the word...

 

Men don't desire because God's grace is irresistable? They resist God's grace every day (Jn 3:19). After enough of that God withdraws from them (Ge 6:3, Ro 1:28-32). They will not believe the truth or yield to God's law so they will rightfully and poetically believe a lie (2 Thess 2:9-12).

Men have the seed of sin in them (Ps 51:5). They must be born again (1 Pe 1:23). Sometimes it takes time for the sinner's sin to come to full fruition (Jas 1:15) but it comes out (1 Co 6:9-11).

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us (1 Jn 2:19).

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame (Heb 6:4–6).

For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot (Heb 10:28-29).

See:

The Potter and the Clay J Vernon McGee

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "His point is to show the absurdity of any doctrine that teaches that man can sin his way out of salvation."

 

It comes down to men's desires (Ps 1:1-3). If they desire what the devil desires, they are his (Jn 8:44); If they desire what God desires, they are his (1 Jn 5:18).

Do you love God and hate evil? Do you love his people? Ps 26:5, 1 Jn 3:14.

 

CabinetMaker View Post
Even asking the question, how much can I get away with, reveals a heart centered on itself and not on a God. A heart that loves God is not looking for ways to avoid God's morals.
intojoy View Post
Some people get stuck in temptations and struggle with them. While your observation is correct it does not disqualify or delete the fact that everyone at some point asks this question whether he is living like a Pharisee and asks it from a judgmental heart towards his fellow man or if he is a publican who beats his chest in shame. The answer is there is nothing that can separate him from the love of God not even himself.

Are you giving yoursself an excuse to sin? Ro 6:15. Is there something you are trying to "get away with"? Your sin can be uncovered by God (1 Kin. 21:17–26) or by man (Josh. 9:3–22). You may be sure that your sin will find you out (Ga 6:7, Nu 32:23, 2 Co 5:10, Mt 10:26).

"Sin will take you farther than you ever expected to go; it will keep you longer than you ever intended to stay, and it will cost you more than you ever expected to pay." ~ Deeper Still Event Series 

 

 

 

How Much Can I Get Away With?