He couldn't rightly divide a sandwich.
2 Pe 2:1Hyper-Disp views: wrongly dividing the Word
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "It is important to reject your odd, lunatic fringe views.We are providing you an exegetical key to go verse by verse in the bible to avoid proof texting the one truth that you see, but at the expense of the whole passage and its changing context.If you cannot understand an opposing view without misrepresenting it, you should not play on a theology forum."
He couldn't rightly divide a sandwich.
2 Pe 2:1
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "He needs to look at all relevant verses without a wrong paradigm..."
He's here to deceive (Eph 5:11).
And he doesn't answer questions.
"...[A]nd try a good commentary that will interpret these verses consistent with all relevant verses vs twisting out of context with a poor interpretation."
A trustworthy commentary can help. I like J. Vernon McGee,
John MacArthur, Charles Stanley, etc.
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Calvinism is not the most biblical view."
Strawman.
See:
Does God Elect Everyone?
"I answer your simple questions repeatedly..."
Lie of the day
(Ingraham).
"...[B]ut you don't accept a simple yes, no, or qualified answer."
I would pay
cash for a simple "yes" or "no" answer from you at this point.
"You play games and then falsely accuse me of not answering?!"
You're
projecting again.
See:
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SD: “ Could he [Jesus] have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did not…”
link
It is impossible for God to be tempted by sin (Jas 1:13). Jesus could not have
been tempted by sin (Heb 4:14, Jn 1:1). Men who sin are drawn away by their own
lust (Jas 1:14).
Sin requires external temptation and internal desire. It takes two to tango. The
child of lust is sin and the child of sin is death--the grandchild of sin is
death (Jn 10:10). There's the courtship, the consent, the conception and the
completion. Sin when it is finished brings forth death (Jas 1:15).
"Jesus didn't have an itch that the devil could scratch." Jas 1:13, Jn 1:1, Heb
4:14 ~ Adrian Rogers
See:
The Blame Game by Adrian Rogers
"…[T]here must be added to those conditions the inner and always unforced "yes" or "no" by which the person responds to the situation..." Full text
"Am I deceiving people away from core Christianity or just disagreeing with your pet interpretations on peripheral issues?"
The former (2
Pe 2:1). Jesus' sinlessness is essential
Christianity (Heb
4:15). His gospel includes his holiness (Isa
35:8). He is the satisfactory solution to our
sin problem (Rom.
3:25,
26). Jesus died for our
sin (1
Pet. 1:18,
19). He has reconciled
God and man (2
Cor. 5:18,
19). He offers the sinner
perfect righteousness (2
Cor. 5:20,
21). You attempt to
undermine these truths.
Understand the spirit of antichrist (1
Jn 4:2-6).
See:
The Jesus test, the gospel test, and the fruit test
"Here is the crux of the issue. It is not simply a
question of whether one should be circumcised or not, whether one should eat
meat or not. The question is: Must one do any of these things in order to be
saved? Now we will move on and penetrate a little deeper into their problem."
When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small
dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas,
and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and
elders about this question [Acts
15:2].
"Again I call attention to Dr. Luke’s use of the diminutive. “No small
dissension” really means they had a regular donnybrook! It was a heated debate.
We need to realize here that it is really the gospel which is under question at
this council. The Epistle to the Galatians gives us a full explanation of the
council.
The gospel is used in two senses in the New Testament. First of all, there are
the facts of the gospel. These are absolutely basic and essential. Paul gives
those facts in the first five verses of 1 Corinthians 15. It is the death, the
burial, and the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. “Moreover, brethren, I
declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have
received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory
what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto
you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins
according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the
third day according to the scriptures; And that he was seen of Cephas, then of
the twelve.” These are the facts of the gospel, and they concern the person of
Christ. I move on down to
1 Corinthians 15:15–17:
“Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God: because we have testified of God
that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise
not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not
raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.” Face up to it, my friend;
if Christ is not raised from the dead, then there is no gospel at all. But
thanks be to God, “… now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the
firstfruits of them that slept” (1
Cor. 15:20). The facts of the gospel are the
death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.
The second sense of the gospel is the interpretation of the facts. It is this
interpretation which is the basic truth in the Epistle to the Galatians. That is
the crux of the whole matter at this first council at Jerusalem. Thus the gospel
also hinges on this fact which Paul states in
Galatians 3:22: “But the
scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus
Christ might be given to them that believe.” What must one do to be saved?
Nothing more nor less than believe. Again in
Galatians 2:15–16: “We
who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, Knowing that a man is
not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we
have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of
Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no
flesh be justified.” That is important to see.
The Judaizers of that day were different from the liberal of today. The liberal
will actually deny the facts of the gospel. He will deny the physical
resurrection of Christ. Some go so far as to say that Jesus Christ is just a
myth, that He never lived or died. Most of them do not try to upset history
quite to that extent. However, they deny that Jesus died for our sins.
In the first century the Judaizers did not deny the facts of the gospel—there
simply were too many witnesses. Paul says that over five hundred people saw the
risen Christ at one time. My friend, if you get five hundred witnesses into any
law court, you will win your case! Also the apostles were witnesses to the risen
Christ. They were there to testify to it. The facts of the gospel were not under
question by the Judaizers.
The contention arose over the interpretation of those facts. What did Christ do
for you on the cross? Is the work of Christ adequate to save you? Do you need to
go through some ritual or something else in order to be saved? Must you go
through the Law? These are the questions they were asking..." McGee, J. Vernon:
Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997,
c1981, S. 4:574-575
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "I just have one question, what is the word of truth?"
So you watched Colombo growing up.
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Pet projects] "...[M]an worshiper. You won't, you vile, demonic deceiver."
How do you
really feel?
Of course, you are right. He doesn't know the real Jesus (Jn 1:1-3).
Like every cultist, he stumbles at Jn 1:1-3.
Calvinism and open theism are his pet projects (Eph 4:14).
Fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of done
accord, of one mind. Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit,
but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each
of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of
others.
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the
form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God. Php 2:2-6
[The Incarnation of the Triune God Philippians 2:6-11 by John MacArthur] "...[T]he
Lord Jesus Christ abandoned a sovereign position. He abandoned a sovereign
position, verse 6, let's begin. "Who being in the form of God thought it not
robbery to be equal with God but made Himself of no reputation and took upon Him
the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of men." Now we'll stop right
there.
We find in the verse 6 particularly, and then just at the beginning of verse 7,
that the Lord when He came into the world abandoned a sovereign position. Now
first of all, the Holy Spirit establishes that sovereign position. Look at verse
6. It begins with the relative pronoun "who" and that refers back to Christ
Jesus in verse 5. "Christ Jesus who being in the form of God." Christ Jesus,
then, is the theme of this passage, the Lord Jesus Christ.
Now what does it say about Him? The first phrase, "being in the form of God."
Now listen to me, this is without question the heart and soul of the Christian
faith. The affirmation of the deity of Jesus Christ is the sine qua non of all
that we believe. That is why it is always under attack. Christ is in the form of
God. It is the deity of Jesus Christ that is the substantive affirmation of the
Christian faith.
Now let's see what this phrase means. The word "being" is very important. The
word "being" denotes that which a person is in his very essence...that which a
person is in his nature. In other words, that which is true of a person that
cannot be altered, it cannot be changed. That which someone possesses
inalienably and unchangeably that cannot be removed. It refers to the innate
changeless, unalterable character and nature of a person. For example, men may
look different but they're all men--that's their nature. They all have the basic
same elements of humanness, the functioning of breathing and the heart, organs,
mind, will, thought, emotion. These are the elements of humanness. You can
change his clothes. You can do things to the physical form. But you never change
the humanness. That is the being of man. And that is the meaning of this term.
And it says of Christ that He is in the being of God. He is then unalterably and
unchangeably God in His essence, in His essential being.
In fact, in John 8:58, Jesus said, "Before Abraham was I am." And He used the "I
am" because He lives as an eternally present God. He is eternally in the "I am"
mode, in the present mode. He is always and will always be. He isn't was and
will be, He is simply "I am." That is the basis of our faith. "In the beginning
was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word...what?...was God." Hebrews
1, "He has spoken in these last days by His Son who is the brightness of His
glory, the express image of His person." First Timothy 3:16, "Great is the
mystery of godliness...what is it?...that God was manifest in the flesh." That
is the substance of our faith that Jesus Christ is God. Colossians 1:15, "He is
the image of the invisible God..."
The Incarnation of the Triune God Philippians 2:6-11
by John MacArthur
"I affirm the Deity of Christ. Who are you talking about, SD?"
Too bad your "deity" has different modes of holiness (1
Pe 2:1,
Jn 1:1-3).
5 Let this mind be in you which was also in
Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery
to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form
of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in
appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of
death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:5-8
"...[T]he word "being" then has to do with His essential nature. Jesus Christ,
then, has His being--now mark it again--in the form of God. Now what do we mean
by "form?" The English can't really help us with this Greek word. We have to go
back and talk about the Greek term for a moment. It is not "form" in the sense
that we think of a material shape or a resemblance. It is completely different
than that. The word in the Greek is the word morphe and morphe has to do with a
deep inner essential abiding nature of something. It is not the external. That
is the word schema. Schema means the outward, the passing, the changing, the
fleeting, the external. And by the way, look at verse 8, schema is used in verse
8. "He was found in fashion as a man." We'll talk about that in a moment. But
"fashion" is the external, the changing. "Form" is morphe, the unchanging, the
internal.
For example, if you traced the use of the term morphe in its various forms, you
will find that that is exactly where the emphasis lies. There are places where
they seem to be used in an overlapping sense, but the specific uses of morphe in
very important texts of the New Testament lead us to conclude that it means the
inner nature. For example, in
Romans 8:29, "Whom He
foreknew, them He predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son." And
it's morphe. It is a new nature, an inner change. The inside of man is conformed
to the image of His Son. It's talking about our nature.
Second Corinthians 3:18,
it says, "As we look on the glory of the Lord we are transformed into His
image." Again, it's morphe. We are changed on the inside, an abiding change that
affects our inner nature.
Galatians 4:19, Paul
says, "My little children, I have birth pains until Christ be morphe in you,"
until literally He be formed in you. He isn't talking about trappings. He's not
talking about externals, but that the image of Christ would be manifest in the
inner nature of man.
In
Philippians 3:10 he uses
it again, he says, "That I may gain Christ and become conformed unto His death."
So, he's talking about a deep inner representation of the image of God.
On the other hand, the word schema--from which we get scheme-- is something to
do with a passing, fleeting external. For example,
First Corinthians 7:31
uses schema this way: "The fashion of the world passes away."
Second Corinthians 11:14,
"Satan fashions himself as an angel of light." He isn't really, but he puts on
that facade.
First Peter 1:14 says,
"As a Christian, do not fashion yourselves according to your former lust." In
other words, you have a new nature, you are a new creation, don't put on the
garments of the old life.
You find both of these words brought together in
Romans 12:2: "Stop being
fashioned according to this world, but be transformed in your inner man through
the renewing of your mind." So, one is deeply related to the internal, and one
is to the external. And the one of the internal is used here. It is being in the
morphe of God. That is being substantively and essentially in His deepest inner
man and nature in the form of God. He is God. Don't let anyone deny that. That
is the basic affirmation of the Christian faith..." Full text:
The Incarnation of the Triune God Philippians 2:6-11
by John MacArthur
Also see:
The Incarnation of the Triune God
Philippians 2:6-11 by
John MacArthur
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