godrulz

"The Bible declares that Jesus was absolutely perfect and without sin, even in His human nature (2 Cor. 5:21; Heb. 4:15; 1 Peter 2:22; 3:18; 1 John 3:3)...

Jesus was absolutely and unchangeably perfect in His divine nature.  God is perfect (Matt. 5:48), and He cannot change (Mal. 3:6; Heb. 6:18).  But Jesus was also human, and as such was subject to change, though without sin.  For example, "Jesus increased in wisdom and stature" (Luke 2:52)....He "learned obedience by the things which He suffered" (Heb. 5:8).  In this sense He was "made perfect" in that He experienced the perfecting work of suffering in His own sinless life (cf. Job 23:10; Heb. 12:11; James 1:2-4).  That is, He gained all the experiential benefits of suffering without sinning (Heb. 4:15).  In this way He can be of real comfort and encouragement to those who suffer....

The writer of Hebrews speaks...about Christ's coming so "that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil." Geisler, Howe, pg. 511.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Jesus is no example to others if He was God at birth and neither could God be tempted or die as Jesus did."

As a reminder Lazy Afternoon is number 11 on Satan, Inc. (TOL's heretic's list) in the 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "...AMR is an expert on the trinity and knows that I am trinitarian..."

Argument Ad Verecundium (appeal to improper authority)

"...You accuse me of being modalistic."

SD: “ Could he [Jesus] have sinned?

Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did not…” link

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Godrulz

"You think the impeccability of Christ debate..."

Strawman

Jesus' sinlessness is essential Christian doctrine (Jn 1:1, Heb 4:15).

"You have no credibility or integrity."

Ad hominem

"Go back to your day job. Theology is over your head."

Argument ad populum (snob approach)

God does not sin (1 Jn 5:17, Lev 11:44, Hab 1:13). He is committed to righteousness (Ps 11:7). He has no fallen nature (Jn 1:1). He has no propensity to sin (Heb 4:15).

"Some argue that Christ could not have sinned. They believe that our Lord was tempted like we are and that He can sympathize with our weaknesses, but that He was incapable of sinning. In support of this view they argue, first, that since Christ was God, and since God cannot sin (Heb 6:17; James 1:13), it follows that Christ could not sin either. Second, since Christ has no fallen human nature, as we do, he had no propensity to sin. Finally, they observe that His temptation was only from without, not from within. Hence, He could be tempted without having the real possibility of sinning.

Other orthodox scholars believe that Christ had the ability to sin (since possible, but not actual in Jesus' life. To deny this possibility, they believe , would deny His full humanity, His ability to "sympathize with our weaknesses" (Heb 4:15), and would make His temptation into a charade. They not that while Jesus could not sin as God, nonetheless, He could have sinned (but didn't) as God, nonetheless, He could have sinned (but didn't) as man. Since Jesus had two natures, one divine and one human, a distinction must be made in what He could do in each nature. For example, He could not get tired, hungry, or sleepy as God. But He did all o these as man. His diving nature could not die. yet He died as man. Likewise, they argue, Christ could not have sinned as God but could have sinned as man (Geisler, Howe, pg. 512)."

"[S]erpent dope"

Ad hominem

"I fully affirm the sinlessness of Christ..."

What do you mean by Man when you say God-man? Heb 4:15 Did Jesus have a sin nature like every man born in Adam? Ps 51:5. If not, why not? Jn 1:1, Ac 20:28.

"...You say I deny the sinlessness of Christ. I repeatedly say I affirm it."

SD: “ Could he [Jesus] have sinned?

Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did not…” link

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Godrulz

"...[W]e all agree that Jesus was human, but did not have a sinful nature..."

SD: “ Could he [Jesus] have sinned?

Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did not…” link

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Godrulz

God is holy.

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Attributes of God

Response to comment [from other]:  [beloved57 quote:  "Babies have sinned, that's why they die!] "How have they sinned exactly? For crying too much?"

No, they are not sinners. But given the time and opportunity to sin; they will sin. They inherited a sin nature from their parents (Ps 51:5).

They do cry when nothing's wrong. You could call them little liars (Ex 20:16).

"Babies are sinners, that is why they die!"

Do you believe that babies who die before having sinned go to hell?

"I discussed that already in my threads!"

Recommended Reading:

Death of a Little Child by Dr. J. Vernon McGee

[Babies.  Given the time and opportunity to sin; they will sin.] Pakistani baby accused of attempted murder

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "Wow! Timothy neg repped scripture and a question?"

I wouldn't read those.

"John 15:18 It 'looks' like it is a neg-rep for Jesus, not me."

Isn't that always the case? Jn 8:37

"That's the incredible sad thing. The passage from Matthew is Jesus' words, not mine. It 'seems' to me, the scriptures speak for themselves and we can't argue with them lest we find ourselves against Our Lord God Jesus Christ." That's right. When you hear: that's just your interpretation --that means I reject said truth (Ps 119:160).

"Every verse of the Bible means exactly what the author intended it to mean..." Full text: How to Interpret the Bible by Darrell Ferguson

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Hermeneutics

One clown around here (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10) said: appeal to authority --referring to God. Isn't that the point? Jn 1:1-3