Is there any point in praying for the dead?
ThePresbyteers
quote: "The Pope is first in the Catholics lives...not Christ."] "This is a
categorically false statement. Please get your facts straight before presuming
to comment on the Catholic faith on a public forum.
SD: [Christ is the head of his church….The statement is
true or it is false.]
Cruciform: "It's false..."
link
2 Pet. 2:1
"Ouch." ~ E.T.
Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "Now serpent has come to this thread to troll (and lie)..."
You're
projecting again.
Eph 4:14
What TOL rule do you believe I've broken?
ThePresbyteers said that the pope is often first in Catholic's lives rather than
Jesus.
You made a truth claim, saying: "This is a categorically false statement."
I offered proof that ThePresbyteers was right.
You never retracted your previous statement. Would you like to here?
We allow that.
[What TOL rule do you believe I've broken?] "The one prohibiting trolling."
Challenging
your false claim is not trolling. You
fail to support your charges with proof (Eph
4:14).
"What you did was publically lie about another poster..."
Let the reader decide.
"Go troll somewhere else..."
Anyone who disagrees with you is a troll?
Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "Purgatory is rooted in the Bible and confirmed in the writings of the Church Fathers (1 cor 3:15 )..."
No.
If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall
suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire [1
Cor. 3:15].
"You see the contrast: “If any man’s work abide” which he built on the
foundation, he shall receive a reward; if any man’s work goes up in smoke, he
will suffer a terrible loss, but he himself will be saved. He does not lose his
salvation if he is on the foundation, which is trust in Christ, even though he
receives no reward.
Friend, what are you building today? What kind of material are you using? If you
are building with gold, it may not be very impressive now. If you are building
an old haystack, it will really stand out on the horizon, but it will go up in
smoke. I like to put it like this: there are going to be some people in heaven
who will be there because their foundation is Christ but who will smell as if
they had been bought at a fire sale! Everything they ever did will have gone up
in smoke. They will not receive a reward for their works.
Now if you are a carnal Christian, you cannot expect a reward because you have
not been rightly related to God through the Word of God. The carnal Christian is
the one who does not know the Word of God. You see, one can identify the three
categories which Paul mentions by their relation to the Word of God. The natural
man says it is foolishness. The spiritual man discerns the Word, and it gives
him spiritual insight. The carnal Christian says, “Let’s have a banquet and not
a Bible study.” Or he says, “Let’s listen to music rather than to the teaching
of the Word of God.” That is the way you can identify the carnal Christian."
McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas
Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 5:18
See:
What does the Bible say about Purgatory? Will there be a time of fiery cleansing
for believers after death in Purgatory?
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Cruciform quote: "...Go troll somewhere else."] "You can ban me if you want like I care. I prefer proclaiming the Gospel, first, as much as I can while I'm here."
They aren't
stupid at TOL. You think they'd give Cruciform
any power
whatsoever?
He's accuses anyone who disagrees with him of being a troll. Example
one, example
two.
His proof is, "You disagree with me."
You keep
sharing (Pr 31:9).
The dogs will be at your heals (Ps 22:16).
