Obama Leaves "By their Creator" Out of Declaration of Independence

[From DrudgeReport] Obama Leaves "By their Creator" Out of Declaration of Independence at Hispanic Caucus Speech

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Response to comment [from an agnostic]: "Not a politically smart move, especially in front of Hispanics."

He could have gotten it right.  It was in his teleprompter.  There was a pause and he opted to omit it.  

Response to comment [from an atheist]:  "Well at least we now know he's not a Muslim..."

Does it matter? "My mother [an atheist ] was one of the most spiritual people I knew... ( Obama)." Albuquerque, New Mexico

Response to comment [from a Satanist]:  [Typical of atheist/liberal/moral relativists, you spend all of your time defending the sodomite lifestyle...] "Not at all."

Ever make moral demands on the people you defend? Heb. 8:10.

Response to comment [from a Satanist]:  "That has nothing to do with anything--which is typical of your posts."

Are you speaking about Arthur NoBrain's gender confusion or the speech?

Response to comment [from an atheist]:  "I think the gender-confused in question is ASC who, through his/her nonsensical ramblings, has given us reasonable cause to believe that he/she could be male, female, or neither, with no definitive indication."

This is what NoBrain finds important? Perhaps, he/she/it could discuss principles not people. Probably not.

Response to comment [from other]:  "You must have forgotten what your signature line contains."

A few housekeeping items:
My signature is for your benefit (your welcome) so that I do not have to continue repeating myself. I was banned for that if you recall?

Response to comment [from other]:  "I'm not the one who's gender confused. Unless amnesia has set in I'm not the one going around telling folk they're a woman, and then telling folk they're not gay by inferring they've slept with someone's wife."

I'm not familiar with your history with said person.  Why don't you stick to the issues in the future?

Response to comment [from other]:  "I'm a 'he' SD."

I figured you were male but all I've got is yellow to go on. It doesn't matter.

Response to comment [from other]:  [Reason for ban from Knight:  'Enough already!  The next ban will be much longer. Please stop making threads based from the Answers In Genesis website.'] "You're welcome."

I was banned twice if you recall.  By all means, let's make the discussion about me. :yawn:  It must be too painful to be wrong all of the time (Mt 7:26).    

[Banned twice] "Indeed you were. For the same thing."

No, if you recall--the tattle tale reported my linking to the same article twice.  If you'd have believed me the first time, these things would not be necessary.  Knight does not want me posting any more AIG material.  Fair enough.  It's his site, his choice (1 Cor. 15:24–28).  YEC just so happens to be where the battle rages (Eph 6:12) and AIG is an important site.

Why are you still talking about this?

Response to comment [from other]:  "Your signature is the same bunch of lies..."

You believe that. I do not. Do you need a tissue?

Response to comment [from a Satanist]:  "Then get familiar with the kind of people you defend in the future. Helps make you look less clueless."

Thing is, Graniteheart. That's hard to do when you're banned. I was out while you were getting to know him. Then, when I returned, I believe he was banned.

Maybe you God-haters could have an intervention with Knight. We know how he loves you so. Hos 3:1.

Why, do you think I'll like him? Hope so (Matt. 12:50; Mark 3:35; Luke 8:21).

Response to comment [from an atheist]:  "It's a troll that claims to be female, a cop, against homosexuality, against immorality, and against pornography. It also claims to sleep with Granite's wife.

Serpentdove....it's a troll. Don't fall for it. It's here to make Christians look bad and it tripped itself up badly in the process."

TMI. Ok, well until we get into some discussions, just stop sounding like Hannibal Lector's friend. "It puts the lotion on its skin..."

Response to comment [from other]:  "You've been back from your ban for weeks now and spend more than enough time in the politics section to see what's going on..."

I'm starting to think there's no pleasing you No'B. Do you think I like discussing the creature (Amadeus)? I'd rather debate people vs. baking soda (New Answers Book 3, pg. 267). But alas, I am left with little choice.

"And if for some reason you've actually missed aSC's gaffes then why even comment on it until you're actually informed?"

Now I'm commenting on not commenting. Do you live in a padded, white room?

Response to comment [from a Satanist]:  "Stupid, feeble excuse. You've been back for a while, and ASC has been up to no good since your return."

I'm not speaking with this person right now.  If he's an antichrist, I'm sure we'll get to it.  

Response to comment [from other]:  "If serpentdove could only comment on what she is informed about..."

You attempt to silence the critic (Rev. 12:10. Job 1:6; Zech. 3:1) then ask for a comment?    I don't blame you.  You cannot win the arguments.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: Many of the people you're struggling with already know that [there is a God and we are responsible to him].

Agreed. They knowingly reject him (Alate_One, PlastikBuddah/Gamera, etc.).

Understand the spirit of antichrist [1 Jn 4:2-6].

See:

The Jesus test, the gospel test, and the fruit test

Response to comment [from a Satanist]:  [If antichrist we'll get to it.] "I doubt it. Birds of a feather."

Proof please. Spend less time attemtping to discredit people and more time on the issue at hand.

...Movin' on

"He was referring to things ASC has said, dimwit."

Fascinating.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "Ah, ASeattleCrazy and serpent, a real meeting of the minds...."

Does he fail: the Jesus test, the gospel test, and the fruit test like you? 1 Jn 4:2-6.

See:

Jesus test, Gospel Test, Fruit Test

Response to comment [from a Satanist]:  "Spend less time attempting to discredit people and more time on the issue at hand."

You discredit yourself, you baiting half-brained trolling little jerk.  Ignore list.

Response to comment [from other]:  "Well, a meeting of something anyway..."

How do we agree? How do we disagree?

Response to comment [from an atheist]:  [Hannibal's friend] "Huh?"

I'm teasing. We've been doing these movie quotes.

Response to comment [from other]:  "...assertions in your sig..."

I suppose you'd have to disagree with PB, Kmo, AO, etc. to notice.

You've got your own link.

Carry on...

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "Ignore"

Didn't you promise to ignore me once before? Can Satanists keep their word?

Response to comment [from other]:  "...If someone stands on a soapbox condemning homosexuality, and then infers that they've slept with another man's wife while claiming to be a woman then I'd say they've made themselves an issue intentionally or otherwise. And when you've got rid of the lies in your sig you'll be in a position to *lecture* about sticking to issues instead of people."

I see. You're being petty.

We know you'd like my signature to go away.

See:

Tactics of the Left: Silence the Critic

The God-haters have won. AIG has been removed from the discussion You're still not happy? What more can we do for you No'B? We just want to bring a smile to your face.

"...[W]hy are you commenting on something you blatantly know nothing about?"

Comment...don't comment...dialogue...don't dialogue...make up your mind.

Response to comment [from other] "...[Y]ou'd have to make an argument..."

Didn't you work to put an end to that?

See:

Tactics of the Left: Silence the Critic

You now like the sources I quote? Want the info to come back do you?

"Reading and spelling need some work..."

Spelling is of course the main point. Ever care to discuss issues?

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "Given a few of the declarations you've made..."

Their words? My comments on their words are accurate.

"That wasn't a victory for God haters. You can make any of the points in your own words..."

True. However, I will not be able to provide links to the best sources (e.g. doctors in their respective fields) to support my arguments; touché.

"...[I]t has nothing to do with a triumph of evil..."

In the end, they know there's a God and they are responsible to him (Gen. 3:12, Mt. 27:24, Ex. 32:21–24, Acts 17:30, 31; Jn 3:18–20).  If they want truth, they can find it (Jn 14:6).

"Many of the people you're struggling with already know that [there is a God and we are responsible to him]."

Agreed. They knowingly reject him (Alate_One, PlastikBuddah/Gamera, etc.).

Understand the spirit of antichrist [1 Jn 4:2-6].

See:

The Jesus test, the gospel test, and the fruit test

Response to comment [from other]:  "I've just recently debated with PB where we had alternate viewpoints."

And this makes PB a Christian?

You're not going to be able to discern until you become a Christian. "...[A]bility to distinguish between true and false prophecy...(1 Cor. 12:10; cf. 14:29 and 1 Thess. 5:19-21); ...being distinguishable from the faith ‘reckoned as righteousness’ (Rom. 4:5)..." Achtemeier, Paul J. ; Harper & Row, Publishers ; Society of Biblical Literature: Harper's Bible Dictionary. 1st ed. San Francisco : Harper & Row, 1985, S. 990

"Just to reiterate you are allowed to post links which if you had any nounce you'd have realized...."

Clarify please.

A few housekeeping items:

I provide links from my own site, citing the source.  As far as I know, this is still permitted.  If it's not, you'll know where to find me. :banned:  

"You're a joke SD. A silly little troll."

Don't be like that Arthur Brain.

"I've got zero interest in accessing a link from your own site either."

I know that.

"Is Knight a God hater?"

I don't think so.  We disagree.  Christians can love the Lord and have different opinions.  He runs TOL not me--you're still not happy?

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "Can they, Serpent:duh:? That's a very interesting statement for someone who feels they can amputate others from the Body based on their own opinion."

Who cares about my opinion. :idunno:  What does God say?  Differing with someone about a policy issue is quite different from:  murdering children, defending homosexuals, and promoting a humanistic worldview.  You claim to love the Lord and undermine his teachings daily.

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16).  Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9).  Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30).  Believe (Mk 9:23).

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:  "...[I]nterpretation of the gospel"

Then you proudly share your "interpretation" of the Bible from cover to cover?  How do you differ from PB on the following points?

"I didn't realize you got the job of Grand Inquisitor."

You are not proud of your positions?

"So if I understand you correctly you've created a test to determine who is a Christian and who isn't. Fascinating."

It might be helpful to articulate your sin.  See how easy it is to say/write what you believe (Jn 3:21).

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  [Sharing personal information] "I wouldn't give someone like you the time of day, let alone tell you one detail about my life."

Good call.

Update:

"(CNSNews.com) – For the second time in little over a month, President Barack Obama stripped the word “Creator” from the Declaration of Independence when giving a speech..." Full text: Obama Strips the ‘Creator’ from Declaration of Independence — Again
"I can assure you the president believes in [not God] the Declaration of Independence [as long as it's "living and breathing" which means dead ]...(Gibbs)."

Response to comment [from other]:  "Indeed.  Possible responses could be either a) "President Obama firmly stands by the principles of the Declaration of Independence. He believes that all persons are born free, equal, and entitled to life and the pursuit of happiness..."

We're talking Robert Gibbs. You expected a William F. Buckley type response?

"...He is also strong supporter of separation of Church and State"

By this do you mean freedom of religion?

"[G]overnment should remain religiously neutral."

Christians founded this nation.  You'd like to abandon the values that made us great? 1 Tim. 4:12.

"They did not found it on the Bible..."

I see you went to public school.

See:

Freedom Ribbon

[Attended public schools] "Indeed. In Bellevue, WA. no less!  And then to a public community college in Seattle."

I'm teasing you. I attended public schools, too (you can tell by my many typos ).

"That doesn't change the facts:  The founding fathers were personally religious (most of them, at least) but they DID establish a secular, representative republic instead of the theocracy you so badly seem to want."

That's correct--a secular, representative republic and a religious people. The founders also knew we would fail without God (which we happen to be doing now).

"They hoped the people would remain religious."

They wanted us to succeed (Ps 33:12).
 

Revolution
 

We are in an economic civil war. Hopefully, it will remain peaceful.

"We did things with our freedom that the founders didn't expect and probably wouldn't approve of. But that's OK, because that's in part why we have freedom..."

We are free to obey God. Jn 8:34, Eccl 10:2.

Response to comment [from a Satanist]:  "Adams"

Samuel Adams: "Is it not high time for the people of this country explicitly to declare, whether they will be freemen or slaves? It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns us more than anything in this life. The salvation of our souls is interested in the event. For wherever tyranny is establish’d, immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent. It is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice. For they cannot live in any country where virtue and knowledge prevail. The religion and public liberty of a people are intimately connected; their interest are interwoven, they cannot subsist separately; and therefore they rise and fall together. For this reason, it is always observable, that those who are combined to destroy the people’s liberties, practice every art to poison their morals. How greatly then does it concern us, at all events, to put a stop to the progress of tyranny.”

"Jefferson"

Thomas Jefferson: "...in the year of our Lord Christ." Full text: Thomas Jefferson Document http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...s.asp?id=22345

You've got a God-hating president and you're still not happy? You must re-write history as well?

"A fine quote but I was referring to Samuel's cousin."

This is the text of President John Adams' March 23, 1798 national Fasting and Prayer proclamation...By the President of the United States of America...A Proclamation...As the safety and prosperity of nations ultimately and essentially depend on the protection and blessing of Almighty God; and the national acknowledgment of this truth is not only an indispensable duty which the people owe to Him, but a duty whose natural influence is favorable to the promotion of that morality and piety, without which social happiness cannot exist, nor the blessings of a free government be enjoyed..." Full text

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Founders as Christian

"I'm aware."

Yet, you did not offer the quote (Eph 6:12).

"Adams' words speak for themselves."

Thank you. Now, go hate God all by yourself. Re 22:11.

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  [Gender of Satanist's wife/aSeattleConserv gives his gender] "Your turn atheist."

I won't pay for this but I'll pay for this.

"Did you enjoy watching the video, at any rate, SD?"

I tried but it won't play.

Obama Leaves "By their Creator" Out of Declaration of Independence