Once saved always saved
If what
you heard from the beginning abides
in you, you also will abide in the
Son and in the Father (1 Jn 2:24).
Charles Stanley is wrong on this.
See:
Charles Stanley's False Assurance
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [2 Ti 2:13]
If we
believe not, yet he abideth
faithful: he cannot deny himself [2
Tim. 2:13].
"God “cannot deny himself.” He
cannot accept as true one who is
false. That’s the reason He gave
such a scathing denunciation of the
religious rulers of His day. He
called them hypocrites because they
were pretending to be something they
were not. If Christ accepted someone
who was not genuine, He actually
would be denying Himself because He
is true. Therefore, we should be
genuine, my friend." McGee, J. V.
(1991). Thru the Bible commentary:
The Epistles (1 and 2
Timothy/Titus/Philemon) (electronic
ed., Vol. 50, p. 109). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.
"Right! Those of us who are saved are "His Body". There's not a thing we can do to mess up our salvation!"
Yes. No one is getting around John's "if" in 1 John 2:24.
If you don't abide--if you don't remain--you were never his. Your
justification
was a fraud. As my pastor likes to say a Christian produces fruit. If you're not
producing fruit--you're not a Christian (Mt 7:20). You're not going to get good
fruits from bad roots
and you're not going to get bad fruits from good roots.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they
would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made
manifest, that none of them were of us (1 Jn 2:19).
But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up
his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him? 1 Jn 3:16–17.
Christians love one another (Jn 13:35).
All the rest are butcher murderers (1 Jn 3:10-17).
They steal, kill, destroy--and that's all they do (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10).
See:
Cain or Christ (right click, open) by Daryl Ferguson
"What "if" 1 John is not written to us?"
No warning verse is written for you? 1 Jn 2:24
Isn't that special? Church Lady SNL
When people come to your home for dinner, do they wash
their hands before the meal or do you ask them to take a shower?
"Jn 13:10 needs only to wash his feet. The cleansing that Christ does at
salvation never needs to be repeated-atonement is complete at that point. But
all who have been cleansed by God’s gracious justification need constant washing
in the experiential sense as they battle sin in the flesh. Believers are
justified and granted imputed righteousness (Phil. 3:8, 9), but still need
sanctification and personal righteousness (Phil. 3:12–14)." MacArthur, J., Jr.
(Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 1611). Nashville,
TN: Word Pub.
"[S]ssssserpents call the faith of Jesus Christ a fraud!"
Proof please.
Why do you think Jesus said forgive us out debts?
"Mt 6:12 forgive us our debts. The parallel passage (Luke 11:4) uses a word that
means “sins,” so that in context, spiritual debts are intended. Sinners are
debtors to God for their violations of His laws (see notes on 18:23–27). This
request is the heart of the prayer; it is what Jesus stressed in the words that
immediately follow the prayer (vv. 14, 15; cf. Mark 11:25)." MacArthur, J., Jr.
(Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 1403). Nashville,
TN: Word Pub.
"Get saved serpent..."
Meet his condition (e.g. abide) and you can
live (1 Jn 2:24). The command implies the ability to obey it. If you
don't meet the conditions, the dangers are very real (Ferguson).
See:
Satan Can't Tough You But Watch Out!
(right click, open) by Daryl Ferguson
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "If you believe you can lose salvation, you probably believe in the false gospel of works-salvation."
"Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've
constructed." ~
Darth Vader
See:
Apostasy and Eternal Security
Apostasy Technical Supplement
Part 1: Questions 1-14 (right click, open) by Darrell Ferguson
Reply to Loved by the King
[Once Saved Always Saved is the Gospel]
