Sacred Name Movement
Do you use Hebrew names when referring to the Father, Son or Spirit?
See:
What is the Sacred Name Movement?
Reply to
Maskey
You’re right. You serve an
audience of one and it’s not Horvath
(who stated: “I was married for
five years…We had Michelle…I left...”
by
the way [Eph. 5:25–33]). He’s not
in a position to pass judgment on you
(Ro 14:4, Ps 105:15).
If you like to use Hebrew words (it’s an ugly language) so
be it. My pastor defines legalism as: when your preference
becomes my obligation.
Love trumps language. Paul said that he was all
things to all men (1 Co 9:22). You care more about saving souls than
hacking up a Hebrew word (9:22b–23). How can that be a bad thing?
If people don’t know what the heck you’re saying, then I
think you’re right to step back and return to our language.
Your viewers
spoke. You responded—that’s called being a good teacher (Jn 10:27).
One day we’ll know all languages and a heavenly language; but, that time is not now.
Reply to Dianna
Shand
… Stand strong my brother. Jesus wins in the end…
Yes. We are
free to: consume certain food or
drink or refrain from consuming certain
food or drink, celebrate a festival or
not celebrate a festival, speak in
Hebrew or not speak in Hebrew (Col
2:16). Standing in freedom (Ga
5:1) is more important than aiming to
please man (Ga 1:10).
Reply to Joseph
Davidson
I will be praying for all of the watchmen.
If you call Jesus by Jesus and not Yeshua, he knows who you mean.
Reply to
HorvathHorvath Claim: His lips are clean because he uses
God’s proper language.
False (2 Pe 2:1).
His lips are as unclean today as they
were yesterday and as they will be
tomorrow. He has no righteousness
of his own. If saved, his
righteousness is imputed (1 Cor. 1:30).
We don’t go to heaven or hell because we use or fail to use
Hebrew names. We go to heaven or hell based on a right relationship with
Jesus Christ. Heb. 13:9
My sheep…
He has no sheep.
Sheep (his word) belong to the Father:
Feed my sheep (Jn 21:17) not
feed Horvath’s sheep.
You think he doesn’t know who despises his name?
Guilt by association (Eph 4:14).
Reply to Dianna
Shand
Serpent Dove Amen Amen Truth. If I was younger and didn't
believe, telling me I would go to hell because of a name I would walk away.
This movement is
similar to tongues speakers who claim
that if you don’t also speak in tongues,
you’re somehow inferior (2 Pe 2:1, 1
Cor. 14:22–26). Paul reminds us
that love is superior (Heb. 13:9, 1 Cor.
13:1–13).
I would rather save one soul for
Jesus than lose ten because of a name.
Yes, and if we bicker over whose name is
better than we may win the battle but we
lose the war (1 Cor. 3:3, Jas 4:1, 2).
Reply to Nina Kus
I am just speechless that you call Father's chosen language
ugly!
I vote we speak
French in all eternity--much prettier.
Bob Carabbio
View PostNo I speak English, and God's Son in English is Jesus…
Me too.
…[I]f it
makes you feel "holier"…fine.
Not fine. We
have no holiness of our own.
Nothing good in Serpent Dove.
Everything good in Jesus
(Yeshua
if you have to be a freak about it
).
Ro 7:18
Some people think that Paul in Romans 7 is speaking about
himself before salvation. He is not. He is speaking about already
saved Paul who still struggles in the flesh. Until we leave these meatbags
and enter into our glorified bodies, we struggle.
[Paul] understands the daily
struggle within him.
a.
The old nature, always attempting to do wrong (7:21a, 23)
b.
The new nature, always attempting to do right (7:21b–22) Willmington, H. L.
(1999). The Outline Bible (Ro 7:21–22). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.
Jesus
and I know who you're talking
about, and God knows your heart
and your motivations.
Right. If
you’re sinking in the water like Peter
(Mt 14:30), you cry out in a name which
is familiar (1 Co 2:1).
Reply to
HorvathThere’s
no oneness.
…of the
lip. There’s no purity of
lip.
Again with the lip.
Yeah, well, you better tuck that in.
Gonna get that caught on a trip wire.
Didn’t Isaiah educate you to the fact that you are a man of
unclean lips? Is 6:5 You are not pure (1 Tim 3:9). Using
Hebrew words does not make you pure (Heb. 13:9). The Lord is pure (1 John
3:3). He’s going to make a place for us where we, too will be glorified
and pure (Rev. 21:18, 21).
What I
see—Satan is involved.
Why are you blaming
Satan? This is all you (2 Pe 2:1).
He hates
the Father’s language.
He loves you
causing people to believe that they are
somehow lesser Christians because they
use English (2 Pet. 3:16).
If they
look at the Father’s language,
they’ll see what the Father
said--that messes up Satan’s
confusing people.
That’s what
interlinear searches are for.
Maskey read his audience who were
becoming confused when he used English
rather than Hebrew. He adjusted.
You then withdrew his invitation for the
next get together because he didn’t
balance a ball on his nose like seal for
you.
He doesn’t serve you. He serves Christ.
How are you different from Catholics who began to preach
their mass deception in Latin? No one knew what they were saying and that
was the way they wanted it.
Continue to distract others with your insistence that they
speak Hebrew—you just might find yourself still here
after the rapture (Re 3:2).
Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).
Reply to
Zeus MossbenderA victim of this [brainwashing] has little or no
self-awareness…
Eph 4:14, 2 Ti 1:7
You’re trying to salvage the reputation of a wolf?
2 Pe 2:1
…He was
aware [his action] was evil…
Eph 4:14
He believed your friend Alan Horvath (2 Pe 2:1). He
no longer does (Jn 8:32).
By
willingly deciding to follow
along; I believe, we can also
conclude that a claim to have
been forced is highly unlikely…
Have you ever believed a false thing?
Many who have come to faith in Jesus
(yes, it’s ok to say Jesus—he knows whom
you’re addressing [Heb. 13:9]
)
come out of cults and ‘isms.
Maskey escaped out of Horvath’s
teachings (2 Pe 2:1). Your horns
are showing to pig pile on him now (Mt
12:30, 16:23).
Is it so important to you that he use
Hebrew words that you are willing to
discontinue fellowship?
This is your hill to die on?
Horvath was upset that Maskey, his young Padawan learner,
was invited onto a program—and did not do what he had expected him to do.
His ego was bruised (Ps. 73:6, 2 Tim. 3:2).
Suck it up buttercup.
That
watchmen must divulge the name…
Why don’t you
divulge the name?
You know damn well who the wizard,
hippie is.
[John
the Baptist and trouble would
follow]
What more do you want from Maskey?
He opened up about his being from New
York. He’s got that accent to deal
with and on top of that you all want him
to add Hebrew?
You’re become what the girls call--a high-maintenance
friend.
"Sometimes the church needs division. Without
division they cannot have multiplication." ~ Woodrow Kroll, Jude 16
[Paul
not fearful calling out Demas]
Eph 4:14, Mt 23:4 The name Horvath slips
your mind?
4 minutes into your vid and you can’t
cough up the name?
[Watchman sees danger doesn’t
say which direction it’s coming
from]
You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14, Mt
23:4).
…Question someone’s maturity in
the word…
Eph 4:14, 1 Ti 4:12
…Such a
person should reconsider
teaching or leading others.
Eph 4:14
It taught viewers about the sacred name movement (Heb
13:9).
Good day for the kingdom of light (Eph 5:11).
[Double
mindedness: Horvath
endorsed you, you reaped the
benefits of his duped
viewership, then stabbed him in
the back]
Eph 4:14
You snuggle up to Satan and his servants. He does not
(Ps 26:5).
A
double-minded man is unstable…
Eph 4:14
Seemed pretty stable to me. Did you see his kitchen?
Looked less cluttered than yours (2 Ti 1:7).
Reply to
foggyrangeYou have blessed me again with your faithful observation
of the times and the people.
You rebuke someone
when they're doing the wrong thing--not
the right thing (Eph
5:11).
Reply to Zeus
Mossbender
Serpent Dove - Please be so kind as to show when I have
ever endorsed Christopher Maskey in one of my messages…
Strawman (Eph 4:14).
Do you support the sacred name movement?
You claim to be a watchmen. Watchmen warn others; yet, you
did not warn us about the sacred name movement. Rather, you
warned us about a man coming out of the false teaching who graciously providing
a cautionary tale for others (Eph 5:11).
You spent 6 minutes in ad hominem attacks against Maskey. What is your view on the false doctrine? Heb 13:9