Satan
owes the believer seven times what he has stolen
GISMYS
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Satan owes the
believer seven times what he
has stole!
He pays in counterfeit currency.
Josheb
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It is not the believer who is the offended
party.
Sure it is. How we have been offended is irrelevant (Rev. 21:2, 9). How God has been offended is relevant. Matt. 25:41 These battles are his (Is 35:4). He'll take care of it (Eph 6:12).
GISMYS
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Satan can only defeat those that will allow
him to defeat them.
Yep. If he can't
get you. He'll get those close to you.
Your adversary the devil prowls
around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour (1 Pe
5:8).
Josheb
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God was
offended by us, not just Satan.
Right. Satan, can’t be saved. We can be saved.
What we
deserve is destruction.
Of course. We offend a holy God. He’s done all he can to
save us (Ro 5:8). Become him child (Jn 1:12).
Entitlement
thinking is a manifestation of the problem to be solved, not the solution.
We deserve to go to hell. He rescued us from hell and
damnation (Jn 14:6).
Nothing we
possess is truly ours
Strange to die for sex, money and rock 'n roll, hmm? Mt
16:26
…[A]nd what
we lost we lost by one man's disobedience…
Your own disobedience. Adam is long gone. He got saved.
Satan
stealing from humans is just one sinner sinning against sinners.
He harms believers, as well. Remember Job?
"What's done cannot be undone." Macbeth, Shakespeare
God is
offended that such a condition exists…
He’s doing something about
it. No one gets away with sin (Ga 6:7).
…and He's
very upset a human allowed it to happen…
I don’t know what
it you’re talking about.
There’s nothing to worry about.
Your God will come with vengeance, with the recompense
of God (Is 35:4).
…Humans are
the offending party, not Satan.
You don't think Satan has offended God?
Re 12:8
Believers own
nothing.
Nope. This life is not my own.
Whatever God wants to do with it--so be it. It’s not my life. It’s his (2 Ti
4:6).
Our very
lives have been purchased and are not our own.
Yep (1 Co 6:20). Whatever it costs us--it cost him far more. We have eternity to thank him.
Josheb
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From the
context of "God was offended by us, not just Satan," in an op specifically about
Satan owing believers is beyond comprehension.
Why are you going on and on about what Satan owes us?
If he could repay anything, what could he possibly have that you want?
Jud 9
Was there
something confusing in that post, so confusing it would prompt, "You don't think
Satan was offended?"
I stated: "You don't think Satan has offended God? Re 12:8"
Are you
trying to start a fight? Are you cognitively impaired? Are you a "fool"? Are you
mentally ill?
I'm not here to teach you Reading 101
(Eph 4:14).
What else
could possibly cause you to infer I was saying something completely opposite
from that which I plainly stated? It's not rocket surgery
Do you mean rocket science or brain surgery?
Satan
disobeyed God. Therefore Satan is a sinner and bound by sin just as we humans
would soon become.
The Lord freed us from sin (Jn 8:36).
Humanity
disobeys God. Therefore we humans are sinners and bound by sin just as Satan is.
We do not live habitually in sin (1 Jn 3:9).
Satan is not
responsible for human's choices or actions. Satan doesn't "owe" humans anything
because it is God, not humans that are the offended party.
Satan (Rev. 20:10) and his followers (Rev. 21:8) will be thrown into the lake of fire. Are you asking me to defend one who would say, the devil made me do it or God made me a sinner so he is to blame for my sin? Jas 1:14
Rev. 12:8
doesn't say anything about God being offended.
There will come a day when God has heard enough of his
accusations against his children. Satan will be booted out of heaven. Then, you
all get to deal with him.
The
particular offense, and therefore God's being offended, occurred prior to losing
this battle and loss of abode.
He is the accuser of the brethren (Re 12:10).
Josheb
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It is not the
believer who is the offended party.
If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents,
forgive him (Lk 17:3a).
Sin against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven (Mt
12:21, 32; Jn 8:24).
Why do you do such things? For I hear of your evil
dealings from all the people. No, my sons! For it is not a good report that I
hear. You make the Lord’s people transgress. If one man sins against another,
God will judge him. But if a man sins against the Lord, who will intercede for
him?. Nevertheless they did not heed the voice of their father, because
the Lord desired to kill them (1 Sa 2:23-25).
Seriously
theological flaw.
If you’ve sinned against another, ask for
forgiveness.
If you bring your gift to the altar, and there
remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there
before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then
come and offer your gift (Mt 5:23-24).
Satan
owes the believer seven times what he has stolen