Shining City on the Hill

Sodom Gen. 13:13; 19:4–13; Deut. 32:32; Isa. 3:9; Jer. 23:14; Lam. 4:6; Ezek. 16:46, 48, 49; Jude 7

[AFTAH Says Obama's and Hillary's International 'Gay Rights' Push Will Only Alienate Nations Who Reject America's Moral Corruption] "Chicago, Dec. 8, 2011 Christian Newswire-- Peter LaBarbera, president of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, issued the following statement in response to the Obama Administration's announcement Tuesday of a campaign to link American foreign aid to the promotion of homosexuality-based "rights" abroad:

With their new escalation of promoting homosexual behavior to other nations through U.S. foreign policy, President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have raised America's defiance toward her Creator to a new level -- while needlessly alienating nations less morally compromised than our own. Not content to keep our decadence between our shores, the United States -- through aggressively pro-"gay" Democratic administrations -- now demands that other countries sink to our level by embracing homosexuality as a "human right."

Who knew that when President Ronald Reagan spoke idealistically about America becoming a "shining city on the hill," that city would turn out to be Sodom? Hillary earned plaudits from the Left with her U.N. speech on international "gay rights," but her words were an affront to our Declaration of Independence, which appeals to "Nature and Nature's God."

By redefining "human rights" to include the normalization of same-sex behaviors and gender confusion, Obama and Clinton have turned God's natural moral order on its head. There are many countries -- including Muslim-dominated nations and major powers like Russia -- that reject homosexuality. By pushing sexual deviance on these nations, we only confirm their perception of America as a corrupt and declining -- and very arrogant -- superpower..." Full text: AFTAH Says Obama's and Hillary's International 'Gay Rights' Push Will Only Alienate Nations Who Reject America's Moral Corruption

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Millstone Moment

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "If the community makes a bad choice then an individual has the right to leave and go to another that has more appropriate standards..."

That is not a plan for America. We do not give our country over to reprobates (2 Cor. 13:3–5, Heb. 6:7, 8 ). We share the word of God with others (Lk 2:10,11,31,32).

"...If this type of behavior is nationalize or made by the state then there is no way for the individual to escape and the bad behavior is forced on the unwilling..."

Force back (Neh. 13:1–31). 

"Individual liberty is a gift given to every believer..."

You are free to love the Lord (Matt. 10:37 v. 38.; Matt. 25:34–40; Matt. 27:55–61; Mark 9:41; Luke 2:29, 30; Luke 7:47; John 8:42; John 14:15, 21, 23, 28; John 15:9; John 16:27; John 17:26; John 21:17; Acts 21:13; 1 Cor. 16:22; 2 Cor. 5:8 [v. 6.] 2 Cor. 5:14, 15; Gal. 5:6, 22; Gal. 6:14; Eph. 3:17–19; Eph. 4:15; Eph. 6:24; Phil. 1:9; Phil. 1:23 vs. 20,21.; Phil. 3:7, 8; Col. 1:8; 2 Thess. 3:5; 2 Tim. 1:13; 2 Tim. 4:8; Philem. 5; Heb. 6:10; Jas. 1:12; Jas. 2:5; 1 Pet. 1:8; 1 Pet. 2:7; Rev. 2:4). Homosexuality is a crime (Lev. 20:13).

"Let me assure you serpentdove, It is not homosexuality that will result in an eternity in hell but the sin of unbelief..."

You'll need 1 Cor 6:9-10 to go away.

"You need to know you are a religious fascist and void of the understanding of grace so quit pretending to be Christian. I see very little love in you. Only legalism."

What do you see in 1 Cor 6:9-10?

"Only you..."

But enough about me. What do you think of 1 Cor 6:9-10? What do you think about God's justice? Deut 32:4; Isa 45:21.

"If God is not just, God is not good." ~ Ronald L. Dart

"...a carnal Christian which is no different than the folks you hate."

I am a sinner saved by the grace of God (Ro 3:22).

"Maybe you should define righteous and unrighteous."

We can do that.  The Bible compares and contrasts the two:  Psa. 1:1–6; Psa. 11:5; Psa. 17:14, 15; Psa. 32:10; Psa. 37:17–22, 37, 38; Psa. 68:6; Psa. 73:1–28; Psa. 75:10; Psa. 91:7, 8; Psa. 107:33–38; Psa. 125:5; Prov. 10:6, 9, 21, 23–25, 28, 29, 30, 32; Prov. 11:3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11, 18–21, 23, 31; Prov. 12:3, 5–7, 13, 21, 26; Prov. 13:6, 13, 17, 21; Prov. 14:19, 22, 32; Prov. 15:6; Prov. 21:18, 26; Prov. 22:5; Prov. 28:1, 4, 5, 13, 14, 18; Isa. 32:1–8; Isa. 65:13, 14; Mal. 3:18; Rom. 2:7–10; Eph. 2:12–14; Phil. 2:15; 1 Thess. 5:5–8; Tit. 1:15; 1 Pet. 4:17, 18; 1 John 1:6, 7; 1 John 3:3–17 Swanson, James ; Nave, Orville: New Nave's. Oak Harbor : Logos Research Systems, 1994

"Oh the evil men do to one another just because they are different."

A hangnail is different. Sodomy is wicked (Lev. 18:22, 1 Kin. 14:24, Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).

Is God's law evil? Lev 20:13

"Law without penalty is only advise." ~ Adrian Rogers

"Don't look for me to defend bad conduct..."

Should one go to hell for committing fornication? :vomit: Lev 20:13.  If yes, are you willing to tell people how to avoid going to hell?  1 Cor 6:9-10.  If no, is God unjust? Job 15:7.  Who is the legalist? Maybe Job? Maybe elected4ever? :Shimei:

Response to comment [from a Jew]: "So it's okay for foreign countries to arrest gay people and give them stiff jail sentences or even execute them just for being gay? The Nazis thought it was just fine and dandy to round up Jews and send them to die in concentration camps."

Is it fine to round up dandies?    Lev 20:13

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "The native Americans sure liked the plan."

Are you pro-pagan? Ex 20:3.  

"So its ok to murder pagans because you want their land?"

War originates in man's sin (Jas 4:1).  In war, there is a winner and there is a loser. 

"...[C]an't find where Christ taught his followers to do what was done to the native Americans."

Do you love America? 

"Colossians 3:1-2..."

See:

Thoughts and Affections of Believers are Heavenly

[Do you love America?]  "No I don't love your America, I would rather have lived in the one before the manifest destiny crowd showed up, you know the one with all the wild game and clean rivers you could drink out of..."

What do you think of American values?  "The left stands for: secularism, equality and multiculturalism. The right stands for (The American Trinity: found on any coin in your pocket): 'In God we Trust', Liberty and E pluribus unum, Latin for 'out of many, one'... (Prager)." Eccl 10:2

Response to comment [from other]: "Would you go to a Klu Klux Klan website to find the "truth about Negros"?"

Racism is wicked (Ge 1:26, Ac 17:26).

See:

Darwin’s Plantation: Evolution’s Racist Roots
 

"...Wouldn't it make much more sense to go to some black people and ask them about themselves..."

There is one race--the human race (Ac 17:26).  God knows us (Ge 2:7, Jer 17:9).

"I don't already hate gay people, why would I pay any attention to anything your website has to say about them...?"

Who cares what I say?  What does God say? Lev. 18:22, 1 Kin. 14:24, Lev. 20:13, Rom. 1:24, 26, 27

Do you equate ethnicity with sodomy?

"Do you speak for God just because you read something in a book?"

We give out the word of God (Ac 20:20). What people do with it is their business.

[Is God's law evil? Lev 20:13] "No it is righteous. Do you keep it?"

No too well (Ro 7:18-19).  I need a savior (2 Ti 1:10).

We are positionally righteous (1 Co 1:30, 2 Co 5:21, Ga 2:16, 2:20-21) and practically righteous (Jas 2:24, 1 Jn 2:29, 3:7, 3:10-12).

"I choose the good because I am saved..."

What about you is good? Ro 3:12

["Law without penalty is only advise." ~ Adrian Rogers] "What Adrian Rogers did not tell you is that condemnation and penalty comes only to those to whom the law applies..."

Does the law apply to you? Mt 5:18

[I need a savior (2 Ti 1:10).] "Might I suggest Jesus..."

You may.  Be sure it's the Jesus of scripture (Ro 5:8).  Jesus saves sinners (Mt 9:12).  The Christian is not sinless.  He sins less.  A redeemed man has yet the remains of sin in him (Ro 7:17,23; Ga 5:17).  We are justified, then sanctified; we will one day finally be glorified. 

[What about you is good? Ro 3:12]

The answer is nothing.  You have no righteousness of your own.  Christ's righteousness is imputed (Isa 54:17).

[Does the law apply to you? Mt 5:18] "No and nether does it apply to you if you are saved."

Does the Sodomite need the law?  Ga 3:24.  How is he helped by this statement:  "It is not homosexuality that will result in an eternity in hell..."?  1 Co 6:9

[Does the Sodomite need the law?  Ga 3:24] "What are you talking about?..."

The answer is yes. The law is for the lawless. The law is our tutor to bring us to Christ (Ga 3:24). The word of God, like a mirror, reveals who we are (Jas 1:23-25).

"...The only sin that will result in an eternal hell is the sin of unbelief."