Ted Kennedy is Dead

Laura Ingraham said on her program today "I am praying for him."  Isn't it a little late for that (2 Cor 5:8)?  Prayer beads cannot help him now (Mt 6:7).  There does not seem to be evidence that he repented before death (Eccl 10:2). 

Response to comment [from "other"]:  ["Hopefully the Kennedy curse ends with Ted's death."]  "How very....'Christian'.

How is a Christian supposed to act according to you?  Are they fat cherubs with wings in your opinion?  We are to judge and judge rightly (Pr 31:9).  The Kennedy's have been in American politics for 50 years (Pr 29:2).  Just curious--how did you react in the Wizard of Oz when the house fell on the witch?  Were you relieved?  If only there wasn't another evil character to fill the void.     

Response to comment [from an atheist]:  ["This world embraces the wicked and the wicked excel in the world...God will have His justice, soon."] "Would you mind specifying what you mean by "soon"?"

The Lord can return at any moment.  You'd better get ready! 

See: 

Is Christ's Return Imminent by John MacArthur?

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "You have a strange definition of "evil"..."

How did I define evil?

"...and a lot to say about a man..."

What did I say about the man?

"...who fought for the common man..."

By stealing from the forgotten man.

"...zeal and dedication..."

To the left (Eccl 10:2).

"One can only hope that someone as "evil" as the old lion will be around to fill his shoes..."

No doubt there will be another.

Response to comment [from other]:  "What the heck is Christian about stating that some people deserve a fate of eternal suffering and that hell is the only appropriate place for them?"

It is correct to warn people about the reality of hell if they do not avail themselves of the forgiveness offered in Jesus Christ.

"There's nothing 'right' about showing no compassion, empathy or mercy towards others."

I had prayed for Kennedy's repentance, actually.  Now of course it is too late.  The purgatory that he may have believed in is not biblical.  So now, we can pray for the comfort of those who loved him.  Clearly, the fact that people loved him shows a remnant of God's image.  God makes the right decision for each person's soul. 

"The last I knew there was nobody who was perfect..."

Who claimed to be perfect?  You will find that Christians are the very people who are quite aware of their imperfection--the difference--they acknowledge reality and repent.  Others hide until it's too late.

"I certainly wouldn't be ecstatic at an epilogue where the witch is carted off to an everlasting fiery pit because they're so much "more evil than I"."

Christians claim no righteousness of their own.  Ever notice--those who hate Jesus side with his enemies?

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  ["Did you forget already? See below."  Quote:  By stealing from the forgotten man.]

What was written below your comment became my first statement.

"Your definition of "stealing" must be as interesting as your definition of "evil"."

Stealing is evil (that which is opposed to good) [Ex 20:15]. 

[Leftists promoting theft (Eccl 10:2)]  "To humanity. That you see that as a concern of the left is telling."

It is stealing to take from the forgotten man, for example, to pay the man who will not work.  Liberals come to kill, steal and destroy (Jn 10:10). 

Response to comment [from a Catholic]:  "I take it then SerpentDove that you would have disagreed with Christ when he turned to the thief and said "Today, you will be with me in Paradise""

The thief repented. 

"According to your rationale, the Light of the World should have turned to him and said "Burn Baby Burn".

If we confess our sins (not to a priest [1 Ti 2:5]), he is faithful and just to forgive us (1 Jn 1:9).

"Thanks for making a mockery of our faith."

I could say the same to you.

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "And your definition of "stealing" must not match the real world's.  Taxes aren't theft."

Any tax over ten percent is highway robbery.  When you study biblical principles like "do not steal", these things become evident. 

"When did Ted steal anything form this "forgotten" man (and how would you know if he did since he was forgotten?)"

Ted Kennedy promoted leftist policies (Eccl 10:2).

"And where does the liberal agenda say anything about paying the man who won't work?"

If a man will not work, he should starve (2 Thes 3:10).  Those on the left would rather feed him because they believe they are nicer than God.   

"You are an idiot."

Response to comment [from other]:  "There was practical glee at the prospect of this person suffering in this 'place'. There's nothing "right" about that."

I do not share that sentiment (Eze 33:11).

"Well if God makes the right decision for each persons soul what say you leave it to God where this mans fate lies instead of presuming you know the ins and outs of his heart? I don't believe your literal hell (or lake of fire) is a place of perpetual endless suffering or what is taught but hey ho."

We do not know the heart of another.  Only God does.  Christians are fruit inspectors (Mt 7:16). 

Hell is a real place:

1.     The place of disembodied spirits. Ac 2:31.
a.     Which Christ visited. Lu 23:43; Ac 2:31; 1Pe 3:19.
b.     Contains, a place of rest, Abraham’s bosom. Lu 16:23.
c.     Paradise. Lu 23:43.
d.     And a place of torment. Lu 16:23.
2.     The place of future punishment
a.     Destruction from the presence of God. 2Th 1:9.
3.     Described as
a.     Everlasting punishment. Mt 25:46.
b.     Everlasting fire. Mt 25:41.
c.     Everlasting burnings. Isa 33:14.
d.     A furnace of fire. Mt 13:42,50.
e.     A lake of fire. Re 20:15.
f.     Fire and brimstone. Re 14:10.
g.     Unquenchable fire. Mt 3:12.
h.     Devouring fire. Isa 33:14.
4.     Prepared for the devil, &c. Mt 25:41.
5.     Devils are confined in, until the judgment day. 2Pe 2:4; Jude 1:6.
6.     Punishment of, is eternal. Isa 33:14; Re 20:10.
7.     The wicked shall be turned into. Ps 9:17.
8.     Human power cannot preserve from. Eze 32:27.
9.     The body suffers in. Mt 5:29; 10:28.
10.     The soul suffers in. Mt 10:28.
11.     The wise avoid. Pr 15:24.
12.     Endeavour to keep others from. Pr 23:14; Jude 1:23.
13.     The society of the wicked leads to. Pr 5:5; 9:18.
14.     The beast, false prophets, and the devil shall be cast into. Re 19:20; 20:10.
15.     The powers of, cannot prevail against the Church. Mt 16:18.
16.     Illustrated. Isa 30:33.
Torrey, R.A.: The New Topical Text Book : A Scriptural Text Book for the Use of Ministers, Teachers, and All Christian Workers. Oak Harbor, WA : Logos research Systems, Inc., 1995, c1897

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  [Tax over 10%] "Nope. You don't have the authority or perspective to define taxation as theft, no matter how pinched your greed makes you feel."

How much is enough according to you?  (1Sa 8:15,17).

"[T]axation isn't theft. Don't like it? Go live on an island somewhere by yourself and talk to the coconuts."

Conservatives have guns.  Make us (Lk 22:36).

[Won't work?  Starve (2 Thes 3:10).]  "I must have missed that memo. Or are you just pulling this garbage from your butt?"

Is that what you think of scripture?

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  [High taxes (1Sa 8:15,17).]  "It's not the amount, it's the methodology."

What is your methodology?  What percentage of tax do you prefer?  

[Theology out of butt?] "No, that's what I think of you."

Just getting the word out (Num. 22:28–31).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]:  [The thief repented.]  "I take it you were at Ted's bedside then?"

Hopefully he repented (as everyone needs to).

"So Kennedy is doomed since he was given last rites..."

Roman Catholics teach false hope by the sacraments dispensed by the church (e.g. infant baptism, confession to a priest, last rights...).  They will not save a person.  There is one mediator between God and man in Jesus (1 Ti 2:5). 

"...Nice to see you incorporate your anti-Catholicism in all your statements."

Ad hominem.  You're a homophobe, xenophobe, racist, sexist, Nazi, anti-Catholic?  Anything else?  Liberals love to attack individuals personally so that they can dismiss what people say.  I am not anti-Catholic.  I am anti-false teaching. 

See: 

Are Catholics Deceived?

Response to comment [from other]:  "Some Christians might be as well inspecting their own fruit for ripeness. I'm not going to get involved in a debate about the reality of hell as a place of eternal torment on this thread as it would derail it. A separate thread by all means."

I agree.  We should keep studying God's word and not exclude ourselves from inspection (2 Cor 13:5).  We are far from perfect.  Left or right, I would not wish hell on anyone.

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "I don't see how we could be happy in heaven knowing that those we care about (or even those that we're indifferent about) are suffering elsewhere."

The godless come up with the "forget" idea so that they can relieve themselves of guilt.  It must be overwhelming to believe that you cause loved ones pain only because you will not give up your sin--refusing the grace and love offered in Jesus Christ.  Those who will not repent do cause pain to others.  They prefer darkness to light (Jn 3:19).  We will more fully understand this at the Great White Throne judgment.  We want them to be our loved ones, but they refuse. 

Christians see life as it is.  We do not make up fairy tales like purgatory to ease our consciences.  There is no such place.  People do not get a second chance after death (2 Cor 5:8).  Our choice must be made on this side of the grave.  Love is real.  Our choices have consequences.  As Nichole C. Mullen would say, "Deal with Jesus y'all." 

God is near his children now and in heaven.  Wiping every tear from men's eyes means that there will be tears as the wicked depart from us forever (Rev 21:4).  God does not take the reality away (the forget theory) he adds grace.  His grace is sufficient (2 Cor 12:9).  Christians will experience his grace throughout eternity.  We have a new heavenly family  (2 Cor 5:17). 

[On Comfort: Words of Hope for the Hurting by J. Vernon McGee] "Mankind is to be judged, and the Word of God closes on the note that everyone who has turned his back on Jesus Christ will have to come before the Great White Throne for judgment. The books are to be opened, and everyone must give an account of himself there to God..." Full text: On Comfort: Words of Hope for the Hurting.

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "I tend to think that we will see sin for what it really is, understand fully the choices made by the unredeemed."

I agree.

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  "I ended up paying for the government surveillance of American citizens during the [Bush] administration."

Both Republicans and Democrats spend too much. 

Do you think it is wise to seek out the enemy and destroy him?  Is there evil in the world that we must fight here and abroad?  Did you know that we already have sleeper cells here in this country posed for an attack on us?  Did you know that they fundraise right in our own communities?  See:  American Congress for Truth  http://americancongressfortruth.com/

Ted Kennedy is Dead