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Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "...[S]in is volitional, not a substance nor genetic..."

Godrulz attempts to undermine the gospel of Jesus Christ. He tries to distort God's character. He attempts to call God's character into question.

SD: “ Could he [jesus] have sinned?
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God, the Father poured out his wrath on his only Son. Jesus is our substitute (See: Propitiation 1). He took the death I deserved. The cross was capital punishment at the hands of almighty God (Rogers).

Explain why Jesus said: “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” ("My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"). Mt 27:46

Why would God, the Father, not look on God, the Son? Ps. 22:1, 3 Why did Jesus have to be executed?

Atonement (reconciliation of the guilty by divine sacrifice) was necessary because of man's sin (Ex. 32:30; Ps. 51:3, 4). A blood sacrifice was required (Lev. 16:11, 14–20; Heb. 9:13–22). Our guilt can be removed (Lev. 16:21; 1 Cor. 6:11) and we can be forgiven (Lev. 5:10, 11; Rom. 4:6, 7) and declared righteous (Rom. 10:3, 4; Phil. 3:9) because of Christ's sacrifice (Is. 53:10–12; Dan. 9:24–26).

1. "Propitiation-- [T]he atoning death of Jesus on the cross, through which He paid the penalty demanded by God because of people’s sin, thus setting them free from sin and death. The word means “appeasement.” Thus, propitiation expresses the idea that Jesus died on the cross to pay the price for sin that a holy God demanded.

Although Jesus was free of sin, He took all our sins upon Himself and redeemed us from the penalty of death that our sins demanded. As the writer of 1 John declared, “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2; atoning sacrifice, NIV, NRSV)." Youngblood, Ronald F. ; Bruce, F. F. ; Harrison, R. K. ; Thomas Nelson Publishers: Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Dictionary. Nashville : T. Nelson, 1995

Humans were corrupted (Ge 3:6,11,12; Ro 5:12,15,19). God was not (Ps 16:10, Isa 11:4,5).

[Soldiers for Christ 2 Timothy 2:1-4 In Touch] "...The apostle encourages the young man--and, by extension, every believer--to face difficulty as a good soldier. The military term "soldier" implies that we are in a battle. And in fact, the combat started before Adam and Eve's lifetime.

We see the first evidence when almighty God, who had crated all the celestial beings, nevertheless allowed Satan and other angels (thereafter known as "demons") to rebel against Him. They established their own kingdom and waged war with the Lord.
Later we see this strife extend to all humankind. In the Garden of Eden, Satan tempted Eve to violate God's command by eating forbidden fruit. Her disobedience corrupted mankind's innocent, and ever since, all human begins have been born with a nature bent away from the Lord--and with a profound need for a Savior.

Tempted by Satan in the wilderness, Jesus modeled how to be victorious in spiritual conflict: by means of Scripture. God's Word gives us everything we need to win--from offensive and defensive weapons (Eph 6:10-17) to the proper perspective on our adversaries' real identity: "Our struggles not against flesh and blood, but against the...spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places" (v. 12)...

When we see ungodliness in our society, the Enemy may at times seem to be winning. Yet we who are saved have assurance that we belong to Him who is greater--and who will have the final victory (1 John 4:4; John 16:33). View daily battles biblically and look to God, who is mightier than all evil."

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What is original sin? Is the original sin of Adam and Eve applied to all of humanity?

What is the sin nature? What does it mean that we all have a sin nature?

What is the definition of sin? What is the difference between imputed sin, inherited sin, and personal sin?

Did we all inherit sin from Adam and Eve? Are sins inherited from one generation to the next?

"We have physical depravity because we are born in Adam. Moral depravity comes from our own misuse of mind/will following in his footsteps. We cannot blame it on Adam, Satan, parents. The soul that sins is the one who dies (Ezek.)."

Why do men sin?

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The morality of the unregenerate is based upon: conscience (Rom. 2:14, 15), commanded by law (John 8:3–5), limited to outward appearance (Isa 1:14, 15), and is an object of boasting (Mark 10:17–20).

Our morality is: based upon the new birth (2 Cor. 5:17), prompted by the Spirit (Gal. 5:22, 23), comes from the heart (Heb. 8:10) and there is no boasting except in Christ (1 Cor. 15:10; Phil. 3:7–10). Nelson's Quick Reference.

"We don't regulate morality. We regulate immorality." ~ Adrian Rogers

Adam, a type of Christ (Rom. 5:14) lost his sovereignty when he brought sin into the world (1 Cor. 15:22, 45). Christ came to restore man to his original intention. He died for us (Ro 5:8). Without him we are helpless (Ro 5:6). Christ paid the penalty for the sin of the world.

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come [Rom. 5:14].

"Paul is personifying death. He speaks of the fact that death reigned like a king from Adam to Moses. Although he had not broken the Ten Commandments—because they hadn’t yet been given—man was yet a sinner.

The word death is used in a threefold way in Scripture. There is what is known as physical death. That refers only to the body, and it means a separation of the spirit from the body. This death comes to man because of Adam’s sin. Also, there is spiritual death, which is separation from and rebellion against God. And we inherit this nature from Adam, by the way. We are alienated from God, and we are dead in trespasses and sins (see Eph. 2:1). That is the picture that Scripture presents. Then there is eternal death. That is the third death that Scripture speaks of, and it is eternal separation from God. And, unless man is redeemed, eternal death inevitably follows (see Rev. 21:8).

Adam is here definitely declared to be a type of Christ—“who is the figure” or “he is the type of him who was to come.” That is, Adam is a type of Christ." McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 4:679

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive (1 Co 15:22).

Christ came down to where we were (Phil 2:7-8). We couldn't get up to where he was. We could not bind the gap between where he was and where we are. In Christ man's potential is realized. Jesus tasted death for every man Heb 2:7-9 (Jeremiah).

[The Conflict 2 Timothy 2:6-8 In Touch] "Spiritual combat is going on all the time. It is important for believers to be aware of this conflict in order to battle sin effectively and live in a manner pleasing to the Lord.

The Struggle exists in three areas. First, we have an internal enemy. Ever since the fall in the garden of Eden, the human heart does not naturally seek after God. But His Spirit can draw us and move our thoughts toward Him. However, even after salvation, we will have the capacity to do wrong as long as we remain in this carnal body. Scripture names evidence of the old "flesh" patterns at work within us, such as immorality, impurity, jealously, and outbursts of anger (Gal. 5:19-20).

Second, there exits an external enemy: the system of ungoldy beliefs, attitudes, and philosophies all around us. First John 2:15 warns: "If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him." As believers in Jesus, we should be salt and light to the society around us while not allowing its ways to influence our thoughts or behavior.

Third, there's infernal enemy--namely, Satan. His desire is to dishonor God and to gain victory over the Lords' kingdom. We know from Scripture that this will not happen, but the conflict will continue until the final days mentioned in Revelation...

Be aware of these three enemies. You wouldn't sleep in the midst of a raging war, and neither should you live without awareness in the daily spiritual battle...[Stand] firm in Christ. Arm yourself with God's Word, and seek His protection and wisdom."

What is "it"? How did "it" affect the world?

Are you a sinner? If man does not have a sin nature, why did Jesus come?

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "How do you explain sin coming into the world, as per "when he brought sin into the world" when both Eve and the serpent sinned before he did?"

Eve sinned and then Adam did, too.

[The Sin of Adam Grace to You] "In Genesis 3:6, Eve sinned and then Adam fell too. Then God said to Adam, "Why did you do that?" (Gen. 3:11). Adam said, "The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me..." (Gen. 3:12). People have normally thought that Adam blamed Eve, but he didn't; he blamed God. By not being willing to blame himself, he impugned God. He also implicated the woman, and indirectly the serpent...

...Accepting Responsibility: Giving glory to God means accepting responsibility. Sin isn't God's fault, the fault of somebody God brought into my life, or the fault of some circumstance. You can't say, "God, You didn't have to make Satan. You didn't have to let him fall. You didn't have to put me in the city I'm in. You didn't have to bring that person across my path. You're sovereign and in control." Excusing sin impugns God. If you or I sin, who's fault is it? Ours--and ours alone. So if God chooses to chasten us, He is free to. We cannot deny responsibility for sin.

I believe that you will grow spiritually as you openly face the reality of your sinfulness and confess it. Then you are dealing with the dead weight that drags down the process of spiritual growth. If growth is like a race, then we can't run it with weights (Heb. 12:1). That just slows us down. As we acknowledge our sin, that weight drops off and we can continue to grow..." Full text: Confessing Our Sins Grace to You

GodRulzRandomThoughts’ Jesus can be corrupted.

The Jesus of scripture cannot Ps 16:10, Isa 11:4,5, Heb 4:14, 1 Pe 1:18

"Babies have a blank slate in utero. They do not have mental or moral capacity to sin. When they do, the formulate character, heart, nature, not before. Physical depravity explains why we all die physically and have a propensity to sin (vs causative nature that makes us sin or that makes us guilty before we sin)."

Why do all men sin? Have you sinned?

[How Can a Man Be Just before God? by Henry Morris, Ph.D.] “"Then Job answered and said, I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?" (Job 9:1-2)

The patriarch Job was the most "just" (i.e., "righteous") man of his age, according to the testimony of God Himself (Job 1:8; 2:3), yet his friends were insisting that his terrible suffering had been sent by God because of his sins. He knew he was innocent of the sins of which they were accusing him, and he knew he had earnestly tried to be obedient and faithful to God. Yet he also knew that he, like all men, had come far short of God’s holiness (Romans 3:23). "I have sinned," he had confessed, "what shall I do unto thee, O thou preserver of men?" (Job 7:20). "Cause me to understand wherein I have erred" (Job 6:24). And then comes the plaintive plea in our text. "How should a man be just with God?"

There is, indeed, no way by which a man can make himself righteous before God, for he is even born with a sin nature, inherited from father Adam. "If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse" (Job 9:20). Yet God created man for His own glory (Isaiah 43:7) and wants "all men to be saved" (1 Timothy 2:4). The great enigma is, how can God justify unrighteousness in men and still be righteous Himself.

The answer, of course, is that God, in Christ, has paid the price to make us righteous by dying for all our sins. "God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8). "In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace" (Ephesians 1:7).

Even Job finally realized that God must somehow become his redeemer. "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and . . . in my flesh shall I see God" (Job 19:25-26). It is indeed wonderfully true that God can both "be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus" (Romans 3:26). HMM" How Can a Man Be Just before God?

Explain the importance of the virgin birth. Why is Jesus' blood called precious? 1 Pe 1:17-19

"...[J]ust a speculative attempt to prop up a wrong theory about sin and guilt."

Should one who is guilty feel guilt? Have men been found guilty before God? Why did Jesus come?

"We see here that, when Jesus came the first time, He was not a judge. He made that very clear to the man who wanted Him to give a judgment between himself and his brother. He said, “… Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?” (Luke 12:14). He didn’t come as a Judge the first time. He came as the Savior. He will come the next time as the Judge. But now He says that God didn’t send Him into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Whoever does not believe in Him is condemned. Friend, if you don’t believe, you are already condemned. Why? Because “he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” That wonderful name is Jesus—His name is Jesus because He is the Savior of the world. Anyone who will believe in that name is no longer under condemnation but has everlasting life.

Remember that He is talking to Nicodemus, a Pharisee. The Pharisees believed that the Messiah, when He came, would be a judge. The Old Testament presented two aspects of the coming of the Messiah. One was His coming as a Savior, coming to die, coming to pay a penalty; the other was His coming as the Judge. They reasoned that the Messiah would be a judge when He came because the Old Testament presents that aspect. In Psalm 2:9 we read, “Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron.…” Daniel speaks of Him as ajudge of the whole world (Dan. 7:13–14). Psalm 45 talks about His ruling the world in righteousness, and Isaiah 11 and Isaiah 42 speak of His judgments in righteousness. The Lord Jesus is making it very clear to Nicodemus that God sent not His Son this time to judge the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. The “world” is the Greek word kosmos—God’s redemptive purpose embraces the entire world. He did not come to condemn or to judge the world but to save the world.

McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 4:386

"Adam was the occasion of sin entering the world..."

What happened after the Fall?

"...[T]he major first message of the Bible, that man is sinful, that he is hopelessly sinful, that he is incurably sinful, that he is because of his sin living from one disaster to another, one calamity to another, which is the natural effect of sin. And injected on top of that, to compound his problems, there is the supernatural judgment of God which can fall at any time on the world, or on nations, or on cities, or on communities, or on families, or on individuals. That's the first great message of the Bible..." Full text: The Destruction of Mankind, Part 2 Genesis 6:5-12 Grace to You

"...Christ was the occasion of redemption being possible..."

Have you ever been in need of a savior? If so, why?

"...[N]ot the automatic cause which would lead to universalism (wrong interpretation of Rom. 5)."

"Justification by Faith—Results Derived, Chapter 5:1–11 Eight benefits:

(1) Peace—verse 1
(2) Access—verse 2
(3) Hope—verse 2
(4) Patience—Fruit of Tribulations—verse 3
(5) Love—verse 5
(6) Holy Spirit—verse 5
(7) Deliverance from the Great Tribulation—verse 9
(8) Joy—verse 11 (Reconciliation is toward man. Definition: Change from enmity to friendship. Justification by faith is an act of God which is permanent.)

Sanctification of the Saint, Chapters 5:12–8:39

Potential Sanctification, Chapter 5:12–21 (Federal headship, of Adam and Christ)

(a) Headship of Adam, Chapter 5:12–14 (Death—Sin)
(b) Headship of Christ, Chapter 5:15–17 (Life—Righteousness)
(c) Offense of Adam vs. Righteousness of Christ, Chapter 5:18–21 (Disobedience vs. Obedience; Judgment vs. Free Gift; Sin vs. Grace; Condemnation vs. Justification)
McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 4:642-643

"Romans 5 Chapter summary. The believer now stands in a unique relationship with God which provides a new perspective on all of life (5:1–5). That perspective is rooted in the conviction that a God who was willing to give up His Son to bring us to Himself will surely, now that we are His, keep on working in us (vv. 6–11).
What difference does Christ make in our situation? Paul summarizes in one of the New Testament’s key theological passages (vv. 12–21). Adam introduced death and sin into every person’s experience, bringing us under condemnation and releasing those dark forces that make human life short and miserable. In contrast, Christ as a second Adam created a new race of human beings, righteous rather than sinful, upheld by grace rather than weighed down by failure, alive rather than dead to the bright hope of life lived in the light of God’s holiness and love. In Jesus Christ all things truly have become new!

Key verse. 5:8: History’s clearest “I love you!”

Personal application. Let the certainty of God’s love give you a new perspective on all of life.

Key concepts. Justification Galatians 2. Peace Philippians 1. Glory Exodus 39-40. Suffering 1 Peter. Holy Spirit Romans 8, 1 Corinthians 3. Love of God Psalms 5-7, Hosea 11-12, John 3. Reconciliation 2 Corinthians 5. Salvation Romans 6, Titus 3." Richards, Larry: The Bible Reader's Companion. Wheaton, Ill. : Victor Books, 1991, S. 741