What does 1 Tim. 2:12-14 really mean to us?
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [What does 1 Tim. 2:12-14 really mean to us?]
That means--woman, make me a sammich!
"1 Ti 2:12 I
do not permit. The Gr. word for
“permit” is used in the NT to refer
to allowing someone to do what he
desires. Paul may have been
addressing a real situation in which
several women in Ephesus desired to
be public preachers. to teach. Paul
used a verbal form of this Gr. word
that indicates a condition or
process and is better translated:
“to be a teacher.” This was an
important, official function in the
church (see Acts 13:1; 1 Cor. 12:28;
Eph. 4:11). Thus Paul is forbidding
women from filling the office and
role of the pastor or teacher. He is
not prohibiting them from teaching
in other appropriate conditions and
circumstances (cf. Acts 18:26; Titus
2:3, 4). to have authority over.
Paul forbids women from exercising
any type of authority over men in
the church assembly, since the
elders are those who rule (5:17).
They are all to be men (as is clear
from the requirements in 3:2, 5). in
silence. See note on v. 11.
2:13, 14 A woman’s subordinate role
did not result after the Fall as a
cultural, chauvinistic corruption of
God’s perfect design; rather, God
established her role as part of His
original creation (v. 13). God made
woman after man to be his suitable
helper (see note on Gen. 2:18; cf. 1
Cor. 11:8, 9). The Fall actually
corroborates God’s divine plan of
creation (see notes on Gen. 3:1–7).
By nature Eve was not suited to
assume the position of ultimate
responsibility. By leaving Adam’s
protection and usurping his
headship, she was vulnerable and
fell, thus confirming how important
it was for her to stay under the
protection and leadership of her
husband (see notes on 5:11, 12; 2
Tim. 3:6, 7). Adam then violated his
leadership role, followed Eve in her
sin, and plunged the human race into
sinfulness—all connected with
violating God’s planned roles for
the sexes. Ultimately, the
responsibility for the Fall still
rests with Adam, since he chose to
disobey God apart from being
deceived (Rom. 5:12–21; 1 Cor.
15:21, 22)." MacArthur, J., Jr.
(Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study
Bible (electronic ed., pp.
1863–1864). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "What is the point in asking except to start a "majoring on minors" issue that, because of their unbelief, the Calvinist can only perform? My thoughts? __ forget it.",.
The long
toothed lesbians (Giles) like to use
this verse to argue that the bible
is anti-woman.
Let the woman learn in silence
with all subjection.
But I suffer not a woman to
teach, nor to usurp authority over
the man, but to be in silence [1
Tim. 2:11–12].
"These verses have to do with the
learning and teaching of doctrine.
Keep in mind that the women led in
the mystery religions of Paul’s day,
and they were sex orgies. Paul is
cautioning women not to sepak
publicly with the idea of making an
appeal on the basis of sex. Paul
strictly forbade women to speak in
tongues in 1 Corinthians 14:34."
McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible
commentary: The Epistles (1 and 2
Timothy/Titus/Philemon) (electronic
ed., Vol. 50, p. 45). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.
