Who Can Explain This Scripture: 1 Jn 3:12?
iamaberean
1 Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And
wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's
righteous. Cain is of the wicked one?
He inherited an Adamic nature (Rom.
5:12,
16).
popsthebuilder
He committed the first murder. Yes, that is of wickedness.
Things changed. May he's noticed (Jn
3:6).
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Things changed. May
he's noticed (Jn
3:6).
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[Clarify] post 4.
We live in a fallen world (Ro 8:22). I believe you
said the same thing. Cain was a bad guy. Know anyone like him?
[1
Jn 3:10-11] "(3:11, 12) Cain “was of that wicked one.” The words “wicked
one” are the translation of ponēros (πονηρος), “evil in active opposition to
the good.” The word “pernicious” is a good translation. A kakos (κακος)
(evil) man is willing to perish in his own corruption. But a ponēros
(πονηρος) (pernicious) person, seeks to drag every one else down with
himself into the corruption and destruction that awaits him. That is Satan."
Wuest, K. S. (1997). Wuest’s word studies from the Greek New Testament: for
the English reader (1 Jn 3:10–11). Grand Rapids: Eerdmans.
popsthebuilder
Was it not envy, or pride and greed?
Darkness cannot live with light (
Jn
3:19,
Am 3:3).
"Cain’s works are described as evil. The same word (ponēros
(πονηρος)) is used when the devil is spoken of as “that wicked one.” His
works were pernicious, actively opposed to that which is good.
...Translation. Because this is the message which you heard from the
beginning, to the effect that we should habitually be loving one another
with a divine love; not even as Cain was out of the Pernicious One, and
killed his brother by severing his jugular vein. And on what account did he
kill him? Because his works were pernicious and those of his brother,
righteous." Wuest, K. S. (1997). Wuest’s word studies from the Greek New
Testament: for the English reader (
1
Jn 3:11). Grand Rapids: Eerdmans.
iamaberean
The serpent's seed produced Cain and then she had Adam's son Able.
Some argue on YouTube now that Satan had sex with Eve.
Ge 4:1
steko
...which is absolute nonsense!
Right. Everyone's always blaming the devil when
they are plenty wicked on their own.
"...[W]ho was of the wicked
one and murdered his brother. In vv. 12–17, John presents the first of three
behaviors of the devil’s children manifesting their lack of love—murder, the
ultimate expression of hate. his works were evil. Cain’s offering was not
acceptable because he was sinful (cf.
Gen. 4:5)." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The
MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., pp. 1969–1970). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
Who
Can Explain This Scripture: 1 Jn 3:12?