Christians believes that God created the world (
He's a little sensitive about the feather problems. "Having a true bird appear before alleged feathered dinosaurs, no mechanism to change scales into feathers, no mechanism to change a reptilian lung into an avian lung, and no legitimate dinosaurs found with feathers are all good indications that dinosaurs didn’t turn into birds. The evidence is consistent with what the Bible teaches about birds being unique and created after their kinds.
Genesis is clear that God didn’t make birds from pre-existing dinosaurs. In fact, dinosaurs (land animals made on Day 6) came after winged creatures made on Day 5, according to the Bible. Both biblically and scientifically, chicken eaters around the world can rest easy—they aren’t eating mutant dinosaurs." Full text: Did Dinosaurs Turn Into Birds? By David Menton
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "When have I ever denied Christ?"
Antichrists don't usually come
out and say:
"I'm an antichrist."
"Six days is incidental..."
Of course it is.
Ex 20:11;
31:17.
...feather problem.
"Pterosaurs are archosaurs, not birds..."
We get it:
"Pterosaurs [are]...distantly related to crocodiles."
Thank you for the video.
Could someone please check on Alate_One before bedtime?
He tends to eat his shoestrings.
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Six days is symbolic..."
What reason does scripture give you to believe that? Ex 20:11; 31:17.
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Nothing in those scriptures tells you that Genesis 1 must be intended as literal history."
What reason does scripture give you to spiritualize Genesis? Ex 20:11; 31:17. Do you spiritualize the resurrection of Jesus, too?
When do you start believing the
Bible?
"It's not rocket science to look at Genesis 1 at least and realize it isn't intended as history."
Did God create the world?
Should unborn children be protected?
Is homosexuality an abomination? (1 Kin. 14:24). Did God made us male and female? (Mt 19:4).
Do you believe in miracles? Can natural laws can be broken? Was Jesus resurrected from dead?
Response to comment [from a
Christian]:
[Did God create the world?] "Not in the way you
claim." [Should unborn children be protected?] "Only when
they become children, which is the issue." [Is homosexuality an abomination? (1 Kin. 14:24).]
"No." [Did God made us male and female? (Mt 19:4).] "No,
evolution made us male and female." [Do you believe in miracles?] "No." [Can natural laws can be broken?] "Natural laws
aren't the kinds of law that are broken or not broken." [Was Jesus resurrected from dead?] "Yes, in the
gospel narrative, which is all that counts." Your views are not too
dissimilar from other humanists around here (Selaphiel,
PlastikBuddah, Alate_One, Noguru, Kmoney, etc.)
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "I'm a
Christian, and I didn't give you permission to tell
other Christians what to think."
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [from other]: "The material in Genesis pertaining to the beginning of world must either be 100% true (literal) or 100% fictional (imaginary and fluff)." from Selaphiel: "Sorry, but that is pure nonsense." Link
Did God create the world? Ge 1:1.
Yes
Should unborn children be protected? Ps. 139, Ps.51.
Yes. So should the 16 000 children that die each day of hunger, yet I see few tears shed for them.
Is homosexuality an abomination? 1 Kin. 14:24. Did God made us male and female? Mt 19:4.
Is eating shellfish or wearing clothes of two types of cloth an abomination? Why are you so stuck up on this particular abomination?
Do you believe in miracles? Can natural laws can be broken? Was Jesus resurrected from dead? 1Co 15:13,14; Heb 6:1,2.
Yes to miracles. No on the laws of nature, no such thing has ever been observed and a coherent understanding of science would be impossible if laws of nature were arbitrary and uncertain. Yes
Now for my question to you: Do you have anything relevant to say instead of posting the same old questions you have repeated ad nauseum?
Thank you for
answering.
Make-believers
generally will not respond.
[Is homosexuality an abomination? 1 Kin. 14:24. Did God made us male and female? Mt 19:4.] "Is eating shellfish or wearing clothes of two types of cloth an abomination? Why are you so stuck up on this particular abomination?"
Homosexuals are not picked on more than any other sinner (1 Cor 6:9). "Homosexuals, like heterosexuals who commit fornication are guilty before God (Enyart)."
See:
Our Rainbow
[Was Jesus resurrected from dead? 1Co 15:13,14; Heb
6:1,2.] "No on the laws of nature, no
such thing has ever been observed and a coherent
understanding of science would be impossible if laws of
nature were arbitrary and uncertain."
[Jesus resurrected bodily from the dead?] "Yes"
You say that natural laws cannot be broken. But, weren't natural laws broken when Jesus rose bodily from the dead?
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "I answered your questions. Now can you kindly answer mine?"
I'm sorry. I think I missed
that post.
Did God create the world? Ge 1:1.
Yes.
Should unborn children be protected? Ps. 139, Ps.51.
Yes.
Is homosexuality an abomination? 1 Kin. 14:24.
Yes.
Did God made us male and female? Mt 19:4.
Yes.
Do you believe in miracles?
Yes.
Can natural laws can be broken?
That depends on one's definition of natural laws. If God breaks his own natural laws, what exactly would be the point?
Why would he not have just created the natural laws (since He created them as well) to fulfill his will?
We know God's will--that we are holy as he is holy (Lev 11:44).
Tell me was that to convince people like you that are unwilling to accept the glory of his creation through his natural laws?
No. His universe is plenty.
Because you need to know there were "supernatural" miracles to believe in God. Otherwise you would try to get away with whatever you can?"
No, we tend to act snotty after miracles anyway--we can do without.
We were looking for 'yes'
Was Jesus resurrected from dead? 1Co 15:13,14; Heb 6:1,2.
Yes.
"You expect more from others than you are willing to contribute yourself."
You've been more
than patient.
How would you like me to contribute?
What do you think of this excerpt from C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity:
“…[T]his Law or
Rule about Right and Wrong used to be called the Law of
Nature. Nowadays, when we talk of the ‘laws of nature’
we usually mean things like gravitation, or heredity, or
the laws of chemistry. But when the older thinkers
called the Law of Right and Wrong ‘the Law of Nature’,
they really meant the Law of Human Nature. The idea was
that, just as all bodies are governed by the law of
gravitation, and organisms by biological laws, so the
creature called man also had this law—with this great
difference, that a body could not choose whether it
obeyed the law of gravitation or not, but a man could
choose either to obey the Law of Human Nature or to
disobey it.
We may put this another way. Each man is at every moment
subjected to several different sets of law but there is
only one of these which he is free to disobey. As a
body, he is subjected to gravitation and cannot disobey
it; if you leave him unsupported in mid-air, he has not
more choice about falling than a stone has. As an
organism, he is subjected to various biological laws
which he cannot disobey and more than an animal can.
That is, he cannot disobey those laws which he shares
with other things; but that law which is peculiar to his
human nature, that law he does not share with animals or
vegetables or inorganic things, is the one he can
disobey if he chooses.” Ro 7:12.
"I'm not surprised. It is par for the course. It affirms to me what kind of character you have."
I got to it
within fifteen minutes----not
sure what that has to do with character.
A few housekeeping items:
I don't get all posts when I subscribe to a thread. Not sure why.
[Game show goofiness] "I don't really care what you were looking for."
Then why did
you ask me to "contribute"?
"By answering my questions in your own words. And not relying on scripture..."
I rely on scripture. If you'd like a godless, humanist perspective, there are plenty to oblige around here: Plastik Buddah, Alate_One, Kmoney, etc.
"...to throw a vague and ambiguous answer at me."
What response was vague or ambiguous? I'm happy to discuss most things unlike the deceivers around here.
[C.S. Lewis] "It is a good quote."
I like it too. Mere Christianity is a great book. I like the way C.S. Lewis writes.
[YEC]
Not a salvation issue. But Genesis is the foundation of our faith: value of life (Ge 1:26), definition of marriage (Ge 2:24), trust in the Lord not self (Gen. 5:22, 24; Gen. 6:9). Those who reject God's word (Ex 20:11; 31:17) for man's opinion err in other ways, too.
[God wants us holy. He is holy (Lev 11:44).] "Do you think your faith makes you exempt from being honest and sincere?"
Christians should be honest (Gen. 42:11). How do you think I am not?
[Ps 19:1] "And your point is?"
We have all that we need to know God: internal testimony (Ro 2:15) external testimony (Ps 19:1) and his word.
[Men snotty ingrates after miracles] "Snotty? Is that the best you have? How do you determine which miracles we can do without?"
That is not for me to determine. But, you asked my opinion.
Miracles:
"I sense more diversion from a straight answer to my questions."
How?
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "The evidence today continues to cement ToE's place in modern science..."
Sure,
if you don't
look at it.
See:
"There is zero evidence that stands against the primacy of ToE in explaining modern life...Zero..."
If you pull your
woobie over your eyes, sure.
Why do
you work daily to undermine the Bible and pull the wool
over other's eyes? Mt 7:15.
See:
Response to comment [from other]: "Lying about people..."
A
‘more glorious’ means for creation?