"The New York Post yesterday brought to light a controversy involving readings on Muslims and Christians that portrayed Christians as bigoted and repressive and conversely lauded Muslims as tolerant and cosmopolitan. The readings are as follows.

"Concerning Muslims:

* "Wherever they went, the Moslems [sic] brought with them their love of art, beauty and learning. From about the eighth to the eleventh century, their culture was superior in many ways to that of western Christendom.

* "Some of the finest centers of Moslem life were established in Spain. In Cordova, the streets were solidly paved, while at the same time in Paris people waded ankle-deep in mud after a rain. Cordovan public lamps lighted roads for as far as ten miles; yet seven hundred years later there was still not a single public lamp in London!"
Concerning Christians:

* "Idols, temples and other material evidences of paganism destroyed."

* "Christian buildings often constructed on sites of destroyed native temples in order to symbolize and emphasize the substitution of one religion by the other."

* "Indians supplied construction labor without receiving payment."

* "In a converted community, services and fiestas were regularly held in the church building."

Source: Based on information from Charles Gibson, Spain in America"


The Board of Regents was slammed for displaying a bias against Christianity and deference to Muslims.  Looking at the readings, there is not a single word of falsehood in them..." :rolleyes:  Full text:  Rant Biased NY Regents Exam Slams Christians, Laud Muslims http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Biased-NY-Regents-Exam-Slams-Christians-Laud-Muslims.aspx

 

Response to comment [from an agnostic]:  "With the exception of the phrase "their love of art, beauty, and learning", can you show me how any of those statements are factually incorrect?"

 

Are decapitated people lovely to you?  When women are dehumanized having to wear a burqua do you find it lovely?  Artzy fartzy?  Avant Garde?

 

Response to comment [from an agnostic]:  "Those are about incidents in the 21st century. The OP was about a mediaeval history book. What's your link got to do with it?"

 

Why don't we start with is occurring now?  Then, we can agree on history--doesn't your gal revise history as needed? :peach:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afGz0dzVSIU

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]:  ""The year is 732 A.D., and Europe is under assault. Islam, born a mere 110 years earlier, is already in its adolescence, and the Muslim Moors are on the march.

Growing in leaps and bounds, the Caliphate, as the Islamic realm is known, has thus far subdued much of Christendom, conquering the old Christian lands of the Mideast and North Africa in short order. Syria and Iraq fell in 636; Palestine in 638; and Egypt, which was not even an Arab land, fell in 642. North Africa, also not Arab, was under Muslim control by 709. Then came the year 711 and the Moors’ invasion of Europe, as they crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and entered Visigothic Iberia (now Spain and Portugal). And the new continent brought new successes to Islam. Conquering the Iberian Peninsula by 718, the Muslims crossed the Pyrenees Mountains into Gaul (now France) and worked their way northward. And now, in 732, they are approaching Tours, a mere 126 miles from Paris..."  http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/world/2876-when-christendom-pushed-back

How asinine to think that they would want to conquer America (sarrrrrrcasm)."

 

Exactly.  Muslims need to look at themselves and their perverted faith.  Stop blaming others and playing the victim in America. 

 

Response to comment [from an agnostic]:  "Why? It's not relevant to a history book about the Middle Ages."

 

Muslims have contributed more than art and architecture. What's your beef with Christians?

 

See:


What were the Dark Ages? Where the Dark Ages caused by the Roman Catholic Church suppressing knowledge and freedom?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/dark-ages.html

What were the Christian crusades? Why did Christian invade the Middle East during the Middle Ages? Were the crusaders even really Christians?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-crusades.html

What is the history of Christianity? Can you give me a short / brief / general history of Christianity?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/history-Christianity.html

What does the Bible say about halos? Will each person have a halo in heaven?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-halos.html

What is the origin of Christianity? What are the true origins of the Christian faith?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Christianity.html

 

"Why is the wife of the President of a country I don't even live in, 'my gal'?"

 

Oh goodie. You see through them?

“You never want a serious crisis [9-11] to go to waste [build a mosque] — and what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you didn’t think you could do before.” White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel.

See:

 Obama/Administration Fun Quotes
 

Response to comment [from an agnostic]:  "...[Y]es, Islamic cultures have been responsible for their fair share of bloodshed. What of it? They were also responsible for major advancements in art, medicine, mathematics and architecture..."

 

Is your last name Obama?

Why do I give a damn about: art, medicine, math and architecture when you'd like to saw my head off? Why don't you discuss the perverted faith of Islam itself before talking about everso interesting buildings?

Some would not follow Jesus (Jn 6:66). Did he go after them with an ax? No, he didn't (Jn 6:67). Do you get the same option in Islam? "Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:104) Christianity is about freedom (Deut 30:19). Islam is about domination (Eph. 4:14, 2 Pet. 2:12–19). Christians win converts by the love of Christ (Lu 19:10). Islam wins converts by the sword. You must resort to this when you do not posses the truth (Jn 1:14). Worship the beast as he's always wanted (Rev. 13:16, 17; 14:9, 11; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4) or worship the one, true God (Deut. 4:35; 6:4; 1 Kin. 8:60; Isa. 44:8; 45:5, 14, 22; 46:9; Dan. 3:29; Joel 2:27; Mark 2:7; 10:18; 12:29; Luke 18:19; Rom. 3:30; 1 Cor. 8:4, 6; Gal. 3:20; Eph. 4:5, 6; 1 Tim. 2:5; Jas. 2:19). Your choice.

 

"[T]he crusaders were no less Christian than the 9/11 bombers were Muslim..."

 

Which crusader?  One what day was said crusader born again? John 3:3, 7; 1 Pet. 1:3, 23

 

"I say his wife isn't 'my gal' because I'm not even American."

 

I know foreigners more "American" than U.S. citizens.  We are a Judeo-Christian nation.  The Left of the world hates this country because of who we are (1Jo 2:18).

 

"The left stands for: secularism, equality and multiculturalism. The right stands for (The American Trinity: found on any coin in your pocket): 'In God we Trust', Liberty and E pluribus unum, Latin for 'out of many, one'... (Prager)"

 

See:

 

Liberty vs. Tyranny http://www.vananne.com/revivalforsurvival/#Liberty_vs._Tyranny

 

"[C]learly without the recent 9/11 crisis they'd never get away with building a mosque in New York."

 

Because we are a free people we allow these perversions centers to be built. They must be kept under surveillance. Sharia law is in direct conflict with the U.S. Constitution. You know, that thing Obama swore to uphold.

 

Response to comment [from other]:  "In other news the left like to mug old ladies and steal children blah blah blah..."

 

Why does the Left work so hard in an effort which would allow convicted criminals the right to vote?  Eccl 10:2.

 

"Through the ages, there have been times when Christians have converted by the sword (including the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, and various points in European Imperialism)..."

 

See:

 

Can an Intellectual Believe in God? http://vananne.com/evolutionvscreation/Can%20an%20Intellectual%20Believe%20in%20God.htm

 

What were the Inquisitions? Why did the Catholic Church use the inquisitions to persecute those who disagreed with its doctrines and/or practices?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/inquisitions.html


What were the Christian crusades? Why did Christian invade the Middle East during the Middle Ages? Were the crusaders even really Christians?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-crusades.html

Is religion the cause of most wars? Is it true that most of the wars in world history were caused by religious beliefs?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/religion-war.html

What were the Dark Ages? Where the Dark Ages caused by the Roman Catholic Church suppressing knowledge and freedom?
URL: http://www.gotquestions.org/dark-ages.html
 

"Are you trying to say that nobody on the Crusades was 'really' a Christian? In that case, how do you know that the 9/11 bombers were 'really' Muslim? "

 

Better figure out who's who--soon (2 Cor 6:2).

 

Response to comment [from a Jew]:  "...[Y]our attempt to paint all of Islam, through all the ages, as some dark awful thing, while pretending that Christianity is and always was a beautiful pristine tolerant religion is pathetic.

Through much of history Christianity was a repressive murderous religion. To this day my people say a memorial prayer (right after the Torah reading on Shabbat) for those killed by the crusaders and in the Chmielnicki massacres.

When we were thrown out of Christian Spain, many fed to Muslim Turkey.

Face the facts. There are some bad things going on in Islam today, but don't pretend that Islam was always like that, or that all Muslims are evil- or that Christianity doesn't have blood on it's hands."

 

Don't confuse Roman Catholics with Christians.

 

See:

 

Roman Catholicism http://vananne.com/culttoasters/#Roman_Catholicism

 

You'd better figure out who the real enemy is--soon (Deut. 13:1–3; Matt. 5:19; 7:15; 15:2–20; 23:2–33; Luke 11:38–52) "Your people" missed the boat the first time (Jn 4:26).  Don't miss it again (2 Tim. 1:10). 

 

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