Catholics Must Submit their Mind, Will, and Intellect to Papal Authority

[Catholics Must Submit their Mind, Will, and Intellect to Papal Authority Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "Roman Catholics are morally bound to believe whatever the pope teaches, even when he does not speak "ex Cathedra," from the chair of Peter. This means that Catholics are forbidden to believe what the Word of God teaches unless the pope teaches the same doctrine. Following are two compelling laws that have been established to control what Catholics think and believe:

"Each individual must receive the faith and law from the Church with unquestioning submission and obedience of the intellect and the will. ... We have no right to ask reasons of the Church, any more than of Almighty God. ... We are to take with unquestioning docility whatever instruction the Church gives us" (The Catholic World, August 1871, vol. xiii, pp. 58089).

"The faithful, for their part, are obliged to submit to their bishops' decision, made in the name of Christ, in matters of faith and morals, and to adhere to it with a ready and respectful allegiance of mind. This loyal submission of the will and intellect must be given, in a special way, to the authentic teaching authority of the Roman Pontiff, even when he does not speak ex cathedra in such wise, indeed, that his supreme teaching authority be acknowledged with respect, and the one sincerely adhere to decision made by him, conformably with his manifest mind and intention." Lumen Gentium

[Mike Gendron Comment] We must encourage Catholics to submit to the supreme authority of God's Word and to destroy every argument raised against the knowledge of God. The Bible instructs all of us to take every thought captive to the obedience of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 10:5)." Pro-Gospel.org

Robert Pate View Post
Sit down, shut up and go to hell is what the Catholic church says.

Jer 5:31

Cruciform View Post
All this means is that Catholics interpret the Bible according to the formal teachings of Christ's one historic Church...

Eph 4:14

See:

Mithraism and the Catholic Church

What is the origin of the Catholic Church?

SaulToPaul View Post
[All this means is that Catholics interpret the Bible according to the formal teachings of Christ's one historic Church...]



See:

The Pope's Mitre

chrysostom View Post
You can't trust what serpentdove posts.  You can trust what the pope says.

I have no doubt that you are a good CathOlic (Jud 11 ).

Pope urges acceptance of gays, divorced

Predi View Post
...In Poland, where I come from, over 90% people declares they're Catholic while 60% people say they don't believe the devil/Satan exists!

He exists (1 Jn 2:18).

chrysostom View Post
The pope urges acceptance of people like you...

You're a CathOlic so let me educate you regarding your own religion (2 Ti 3:7).

"One of the things that the Roman Catholic Church does in its councils and in its official writings is to pronounce anathema upon those who would disagree with some of its declarations..." Full text: Anathema
Cruciform View Post
Post #5 stands...

Non causae ut causae Eph 4:14

Already answered...

As a reminder, Cruciform is a grace-perverter (Gal. 1:6–8), bound by traditions (Mt 15:9) and deceitful in all his ways (Eph. 4:14).

See:

Cruciform

Cruciform View Post
As a reminder, serpent is a known public liar...

  Proof please (Eph 4:14).

Your Post #26 (Eph 4:14).

Let the reader decide (Eph 4:14).

We are saved by grace alone (Eph 2:8-9), through faith alone (Eph 1:13; 2Ti 1:10), in Christ alone (Isa 45:21,22; 59:16; Ac 4:12). Roman Catholics deny this (Jude 1:11).

See:

Roman Catholicism

Thank you for merely proving here my statements…[S]erpent only further supports my posted statements…

Non causae ut causae Eph 4:14

You have magnified Your word above all Your name (Ps 138:2).

whatever67 View Post
[E]ver see a shrink about why you hate Catholicism so much?

Ro 12:9

chrysostom View Post
The church has to deal with many heresies.  That is her job.

1 Pe 4:17, Jud 11

See:

Love Your Enemies R.C. Sproul

whatever67 View Post
If you Catholic haters...

If we hated Catholics, we wouldn't bother telling them the truth (Ac 20:20).  

 ...clung to what is good, you wouldn't hate Catholics.

We hate false teaching as we are told to hate (Ps 119:128).

...[S]ure, u will claim you don't hate them. Right. I see a lot of hostility directed at Catholics..."

"If evil doesn't bother you--you're evil." ~ Darrell Ferguson

If you were of good will, you also would not put down a Church that stands against so much evil (abortion, divorce/re-marriage, etc). 

Forgive me. I didn't realize that you'd been living under a rock.

Pope urges acceptance of gays, divorced Eph 5:3

But I guess a lot of people just have to make themselves feel better than--someone.

Does your writing this make you feel better? Eph 4:14

As a reminder, serpent is a known public liar...

whatever67 View Post
[See: Love Your Enemies R.C. Sproul] I guess this Sproul guy is your pope?

1 Jn 2:27   

Cruciform View Post
...which actually disproves nothing whatsoever of my statements...

Non causae ut causae Eph 4:14

[ As a reminder, Cruciform is a grace-perverter (Gal. 1:6–8), bound by traditions (Mt 15:9) and deceitful in all his ways (Eph. 4:14). See: Cruciform] Eph 4:14

Intensional Ga 5:9, Eph 4:14

[You have magnified Your word above all Your name (Ps 138:2).] ...but not serpent's preferred interpretations

Truth is truth independent from me (Ac 5:29, Mt 15:9).

"Roman Catholicism vs. historical, biblical Christianity: "We have different authorities, we believe different gospels, we worship different Christs, we are led by different spirits and we are on different paths to eternity. Compare this with the unity the apostle Paul described with those who are in one body and one ......Spirit, with one hope; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, on God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all (Eph 4:4-6)..." Full text: No Idolatry and False Teaching  

Already decisively answered...

Ad infinitum Eph 4:14

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men [Acts 5:29].

"The apostles were obeying what their Lord and Master had told them to do. Believers are commanded to obey civil authority—except when it comes in conflict with the commandment of God." McGee, Ac 5:29

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me [Matt. 15:7–8].

"The Lord called the scribes and Pharisees hypocrites. This is the most frightful word in Scripture. Nothing quite corresponds to it, but it did not have quite the meaning in that day that it does today. To us it is a scorching word, but in Jesus’ day it simply meant to answer back and was used of an actor in a play. It means that an actor would receive a cue and then answer back. Jesus accused the scribes and Pharisees of playing at religion.

The religious leaders were eager to have people go through the ceremony of washing their hands, but they ignored the condition of the heart, which was the important thing to God. In a very pious way they were breaking the Mosaic Law.

My friend, we also are pretty good at rationalizing. Parents say to their children, “You wash your hands before you come to the table,” but they pay no attention to what their children see on television, which is the thing that is damaging the heart. Oh, of course, children should wash their hands, but what is on the inside is far more important." McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 35: Thru the Bible commentary: The Gospels (Matthew 14-28) (electronic ed.) (35). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

See:

A Scriptural Response to: Biblical Evidence or Catholics St. Joseph Communication  

glassjester View Post
Serpentdove, you have not addressed what Cruciform wrote in post #5 of this thread.

Already answered (Eph 4:14).

...Who defines the defining characteristics of Catholicism? The Catholic Church, of course.

Re 18:4

SerpentDove, are you a member of any particular Christian denomination?

I identify with Christ not a denomination (Mal 4:5, Mt 17:11).

But you do call yourself Christian?

Yes (Ac 11:26).

As a Christian, are you free to believe that Christ did not rise from the dead?  Or... if you believed that, could you no longer call yourself Christian?

How many who name the name of Christ are actually believers? Enoch was a type of the raptured church and that was--one guy (Gen. 5:24).

From rolling eyes to rolling heads, Christians are being persecuted now (1 Thess. 2:15; Rev. 12:13). Judgment starts with us and moves out into the world.

And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all (Lk 17:26–29).

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 1 Pe 4:17–18

See:

The Great Tribulation – B by James MacDonald

If you believed that Christ did not rise from the dead, could you still call yourself Christian?

Everyone calls himself a Christian (Mt 7:22-23). You will know them by their fruits (Mt 7:20).

I posted a paper that touches on this today: "Men must believe in a: physical, literal, bodily resurrection of Jesus..." Full text: My question relates to the various forms of our triune God...

Recommended reading:

The Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin and Ravi Zacharias

Agreed.  So someone who doesn't believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus would be wrong to call himself a Christian?

He would be in error (Ga 5:9). He may or may not know that he errs: Evil people and impostors will become worse, deceiving and being deceived (2 Ti 3:12–13, emphasis mine). Many will be shocked--shocked to learn that they aren't the real deal.

"Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile." ~ Billy Sunday

Calling oneself Christian implies certain beliefs, and excludes certain beliefs. Do you agree?

Yes, that's why I recommended the book.  It helps to explain what beliefs put one outside the kingdom of God (Ga 5:9).

If there weren't certain, specific beliefs that Christians did or didn't have, then calling oneself "Christian" would be completely meaningless [,] right?

The term is meaningless today (Mt 7:20).

 

Catholics Must Submit their Mind, Will, and Intellect to Papal Authority