Connecticut Elementary School Shooting
See:
Donald Trump & Conspiracy Theories
LE official says 20 children, 7 adults murdered dead following CT school shooting
Vid: Columbine Dad Expressing About His Son's Murder Pr 8:36
NBC's
Pete Williams reports a parent of the suspected shooter has been found dead at a
home in New Jersey
MSNBC
source: Speaker Boehner has ordered flags on Capitol Hill to be flown at half
staff
AP source: Suspect in Connecticut school shootings is 24-year-old;
younger
brother being held [wrong brother initially ID'd
as gunman]
Related:
22 children slashed by knife-wielding adult at elementary school in China
Newtown Patch: Ryan Lanza took to Facebook page to rail against CNN who
prematurely named him shooting suspect
Fox News now reporting Ryan Lanza is in custody, brother Adam is the shooter
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Now that much of society has "nothing to live or die for, and no religion too", it's a race amongst God-haters to see who can replace Klebod and Harris in the Guinness Book of World Records for the highest body count in a school shooting."
Violence--the
downfall of nations (McGee).
See:
Revival for survival
CBS News learns gunman in Connecticut school shooting died from self-inflicted
gunshot wound
NBC news is reporting that the shooter may have been carrying his older
brother's ID
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "...They said something about a body being found at his home, but didn't say whether it was male or female."
Fox News:
Murderer shot his mother in face
Newtown Patch: Ryan Lanza took to Facebook page to rail against CNN who
prematurely named him shooting suspect
ABC News: Ryan
Lanza, 24, brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger
brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a "personality disorder."
Neighbors described Adam Lanza to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics
associated with mental illness.
Eyewitness to WCBS: "They just told us everyone presumed missing...is in the school and they're dead."
ABC
News: Ryan Lanza, 24,(right) brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities
that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a
"personality disorder."
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "...Welcome to Hope n Change the encore."
His solution? Give your kids
a hug.
Our solution? Share the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Mk 16:15
Response to comment [from other]: "If you own a gun but not a gun safe you and others around you are much more likely to harmed than saved."
Do you blame the murderer or the gun?
ABC News:
Authorities now saying Lanza's mother may not have been in the school, but may
have been killed in a nearby home
Connecticut Gov. Malloy: "Evil visited this community today."
[Do you blame the murderer or the gun?] "...Both..."
What percentage of blame belongs to the gun and what percentage of blame belongs to the murderer?
"Both elements might be 100%..."
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Rahm Emmanuel quote: 'You Never Let a Serious Crisis Go to Waste']
Is Connecticut Shooting a False Flag
Bloomberg: Obama Must Take 'Immediate Action' Against Guns
House Dem: Must 'exploit' shooting
Murdoch: 'When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons?'
Wall Street Journal reporting shooting suspect's mother may not have been
teacher at CT school
"My daughter went to school w/adam lanza. We lived 6 houses away. He was
troubled for sure for a long time." Beth Israel,
Twitter
AP: Law enforcement official: Conn. shooter's mother did not appear to have
connection with the school
CBS News' John Miller: Appears Connecticut school shooting
suspect planned attack in advance
CT school shooting suspect shot out glass of school, gained access
Unconfirmed: "This was found in the shooting today in Connecticut, a little boy wrote it for his mom."
https://twitter.com/BelieberDamn/status/279719806847045632/photo/1/large
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Secular humanism and death seem to go hand in hand my friend..."
Ours is a culture of death. Why did Obama mention "sripture"
anyway? Isn't he a committed child-killer?
Pr 8:36
[His speech] "...The majority of those who died today were children - beautiful,
little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. They had their entire lives
ahead of them - birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. Among the
fallen were also teachers, men and women who devoted their lives to helping our
children fulfill their dreams..."
Barack Obama speech on Connecticut school shooting turns very emotional
He called his future grandchildren a "mistake".
Response to comment [from other]: [Re: Do you blame the murderer or the gun? ACW quote: ...an inanimate object that is not capable of doing harm all by itself...] "I said Stifle! And maybe get some peptobysmal."
He blames the gun. We blame the murderer (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Pr 31:9, Lk 22:36).
"This supports the notion that guns kill people, knives slash people."
[22 children slashed by knife-wielding adult at elementary school in China] Should we put guns and knives in jail? Lk 22:36
Response
to comment [from an atheist]: [(Re: 'My daughter went to school w/adam
lanza. We lived 6 houses away. He was troubled for sure for a long time.' ~ Beth
Israel, Twitter) Dena quote: Twitter is not a news source!] "It is. It's what's
called a "primary source" just like a letter someone wrote home about a battle
or a diary entry."
If you think she's lying, send her a tweet saying so.
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Fool's comment] "Thank you for saying this. Sure, people post false stuff on Twitter and Wikipedia but, as we saw yesterday morning, many of the mainstream news outlets were targeting an incorrect Ryan Lanza because they found [a] FB profile with his name. So, the big guys get it wrong too. Fact is, we're human, and we all need to be objective when posting and reading."
Dena's going to feel better if she hides under her woobie.
Acts 7:51–53
"...What is a woobie?"
A woobie...
Sidebar:
Linus--not a Jew
"...Why are you quoting Stephen?"
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye
do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them
which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the
betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it [Acts
7:51–53].
"Physically, these men were circumcised, but in their hearts and in their ears,
they were uncircumcised. That is, they would not hear God any more than their
ancestors down through the years had heard Him.
This is a masterful speech. Stephen reminds them of the deliverance out of
Egypt. God made Moses the deliverer, but the children of Israel refused to obey
him. The wilderness experience was a series of rebellions against God, brought
to a climax in the making of a golden calf. A plague of idolatry broke out again
in the land and resulted in the Babylonian captivity. Stephen concludes with
Joshua, who led them into the land, and Jesus, who made the way to heaven. He
charges that the Law was given to them supernaturally by the ministry of angels,
and they did not keep it. Perhaps they knew that the birth of Jesus was
announced by angels. Obviously, they have been the betrayers and murderers of
Him."
McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 40: Thru the Bible commentary: Church History (Acts
1-14) (electronic ed.) (86–87). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
[The Demons of Violence are on the Loose in America. But
Why? And Where do we go From Here? by Joel Rosenberg] ""Newtown is a quiet
town," one resident told CBS News. "I'd never expect this to happen here. It's
so scary. Your kids are not safe anywhere."
"I've been here for 11 years," a teacher at the Sandy Hook Elementary School
told the New York Times. "I can't imagine who would do this to our poor little
babies."
All this is so painful to see, so heart-wrenching. I look at my own children -
including my little 8 year old - and then look at all the grieving parents on TV
and think, "There but the grace of God go I." I'm praying for the Lord to
comfort and heal all those traumatized by what happened in Newtown. But as I do
I can't help but think about the trendlines and the dark trajectory our nation
is on. It's not just "the economy, stupid." We are, in many respects, in a moral
and spiritual freefall in our country, and we are paying a terrible price.
The demons of violence and lawlessness are the loose all across America - in
Newtown, Connecticut….in Aurora, Colorado….in Oak Creek, Wisconsin….just as they
were in Littleton, Colorado and at Virginia Tech in years gone by. But why? How
is it possible that violent crime in the United States has surged by more than
460 percent since 1960?
The answer is as painful as it is simple: the further we turn away from God in
our nation -- the further we drive Him out of our society, our of our schools
and courts, and out of our media and out of our homes, or the more we give mere
lip service to religion, the more men are "holding to a form of godliness,
although they have denied its power" (2
Timothy 3:5) -- the worse things are getting.
Should this really be surprising? The Lord God Almighty is a gentleman. He won't
force us to accept His great love and many blessings. If a nation tells Him to
leave, He will leave. But what are we reaping as a result of a society that
increasingly ignores God and hates or dismisses Jesus Christ? We are witnessing
a horrifying explosion of murder. We are witnessing a gruesome crime wave
unprecedented in American history. And there appears to be no end in sight. In
recent years, we've seen brutal mass murders in high schools, on college
campuses, and in small towns all across America (a recent FBI report says the
murder rate soared 18.3% in small towns in America last year alone).
The Hebrew prophet Nahum once wrote about the city of Ninevah, the capital of
the Assyrian empire, "Woe to the bloody city….many slain, a mass of corpses, and
countless dead bodies -- they stumble over the dead bodies….your shepherds are
sleeping." (Nahum
3:1,
3,
18) The people of Ninevah
had once repented and turned to the living God of the Bible during the days when
the prophet Jonah warned them of coming judgment, and God had saved and blessed
them. That generation of Ninevites had listened and turned from their sins
towards the Lord. But 150 years or so later, a different generation of Ninevites
refused to listen to the Word of God. They refused to repent. Their godlessness
turned to terrible, wrenching, horrific violence. Their shepherds were sleeping.
They weren't telling people to turn back to the Lord before it was too late. The
shepherds didn't understand, or didn't care. They didn't feed the sheep the Word
of God. They didn't lead the sheep to follow the Lord. They didn't protect the
sheep from evil. So the judgment of God came and they were all tragically
unprepared. The city of Ninevah was destroyed by God in 612 B.C.
What is the future of America? Is America in a "Jonah" moment, or a "Nahum"
moment? Will we hear..." Full text:
The Demons of Violence are on the Loose in America. But Why? And Where do we go
From Here?
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Stephen] "...[Y]ou appear odd for bringing it up."
Jn 3:8
"Stephen became the first martyr. Also, in this portion of
the chapter, we are first introduced to Saul of Tarsus."
When they heard these things, they were cut to
the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth [Acts
7:54].
"How they hated Stephen for saying what he did!"
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up
stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the
right hand of God [Acts
7:55].
"Since God is a spirit, how can there be a right hand of God? Because at “the
right hand of God” indicates the place of prominence, the place of honor. God
had promised Jesus Christ that He would glorify Him and give Him a name that is
above every name. Jesus Christ is exalted. He is at the right hand of God. In
Hebrews 1:3 we are told,
“… when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the
Majesty on high.” The fact that He was seated at the right hand of God indicates
that His work was completed—our redemption is finished. But that doesn’t mean He
isn’t still working in our behalf. Here He is standing, ready to receive His
first martyr."
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and
the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him
with one accord,
And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their
clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul [Acts
7:56–58].
"These two young men—Stephen and Saul of Tarsus—are together here for the first
time, the only time, the last time. They are enemies. They stand on the opposite
sides of the Cross."
And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and
saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to
their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep [Acts
7:59–60].
"Stephen falls asleep. Jesus puts his body to sleep to await the Rapture.
Stephen goes into the presence of Christ who is standing to meet him. Stephen is
the first martyr of the church to go to be with his Lord.
The other young man there that day was a Pharisee, and he thought he had
everything. He looked up into heaven when Stephen said that he saw the heavens
open. I am sure that Saul looked up longingly and admitted to himself, I don’t
see anything, but I’d like to see what he sees. I have an empty heart. Stephen
was a tremendous witness to Saul. Stephen was the one, I believe, who prepared
Saul for the appearance of the Lord Jesus on the Damascus road, as we shall
see." McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 40: Thru the Bible commentary: Church History
(Acts 1-14) (electronic ed.) (87–89). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
"Can we have a real discussion?"
What would you like to take about?
1 Pe 3:15
As a reminder:
Instant e-mail notification is inop. Real discussions
are less likely.
Jn 9:4,
Re 22:7
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Adam quote: You answer me with a
video? Can we have a normal discussion here?] "Just watch the first minute or so
where it talks about how not throwing paper in a wastebasket was a major problem
in schools in 1962, vs rape (and other violent crimes) being a major problem in
1982..."
I liked the video.
Is it so hard to play it in the background and do something else (e.g. dust your
computer, straighten up your desk, play with the cat, etc.)?
See:
A Nation in Crisis (right click, open) Adrian Rogers
"...If you think America is "special" or "God's chosen people", then you are wrong. We are sinful just like anyone else and our problems predate 1962."
I believe he was critiquing our nation.
Should have watched the video.
"I would like to talk about Bible passages that deal with sin and wickedness at a general level, not ones that are specific to Israel and a certain type of sin they committed. I think Romans 1 is a better place to begin."
Who's stopping you?
Discuss Romans 1.
"Americans owned slaves for a very long time. And that was during a time when "God was in the schools"..."
Christians worked to free slaves.
See:
What Christianity Has Done for the World
Does the Bible condone slavery?
"...[T]he problem is greater than public school and greater than America..."
"The job in America is to put truth back on her feet." ~ Adrian Rogers Ps 119:160, Jn 14:6
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Then you add to the picture being brought up in a society that believes that murdering 1,200,000 unborn babies a year (95% done out of convenience) is a "constitutional right", you can understand what we have today: a culture of death."
PureX quote: "...Why do so many conservatives care so much
more about the rights and feelings of a developing fetus that hasn't even become
fully cognizant, yet..."
Pr 8:36
A look at how fourteen news apps covered the Connecticut school shooting
Murder shot children multiple times and at close range
Shot self as 1st responders closed in
Murder's father releases statement
Victim's Names released
Images of victims
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "...And here I thought that PureX was one of them thar pro life defenders of buggery (which is an oxymoron, as they're both sexual sins)..."
You're right
about sexual sin.
[Petraeus, Adultery, and Legislating Morality kgov.com] "Sexual Immorality
Motivates Many Liberal Issues: Rather than have you killed, those in rebellion
against God (including Satan) would much rather you destroy yourself, thereby
willingly joining their ranks. For "he who commits sexual immorality sins
against his own body." It turns out that promotion of sex outside of marriage
motivates most of the issues that liberals are obsessed with, including welfare,
abortion, over-population, no fault divorce, public education, and evolution.
For example:
"Bob
Enyart, kgov.com
See:
Pornography
Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "...This is totally off the wall. It's a mockery of true moral values, like it came from The Onion or something."
Pastor Bob Enyart, kgov.com
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "...[N]o workable solution..."
Get your kids
out of public school!
See:
Public Schools
Violence
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Nah. They'll probably just go with their usual..."
God loves fags.
See:
Our Rainbow
Response to comment [from an agnostic]: "No. They're saying it's because we tolerate gays..."
We tolerate them, too (Ga 5:9).
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [God loves fags] So the statement, "For God so loved the world" does not include homosexuals?
"Did you know that you cannot keep God from loving you? You can reject His love, but you cannot keep Him from loving you. You cannot keep it from raining, but you can raise an umbrella to keep the rain from falling on you. At this moment God's love is falling around you --certainly showers of mercy are falling on this earth--and you can raise the umbrella of indifference, you can raise the umbrella of skepticism, you can raise the umbrella of your own self-will, but you cannot keep God from loving you." ~ J. Vernon McGee
Response to comment [from other ]:
[Lanza murders 20 children under the age of eight as well as six teachers at
Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, CT] Barbarian quote: I guess no one
should be surprised that Connie and Serpent might join hands and dance over the
tragedy.] "Yes..."
Eph 4:14, Pr 26:4
Understand the
spirit of antichrist (1
Jn 4:2-6).
See:
The Jesus test, the gospel test, and the fruit test
Barbarian
God loves us
when we aren't too lovely (1
Jn 3:1).
See:
Part 7a from the series Overcoming Evil (right click,
open) by Dr. Darrell Ferguson
"Your scriptural references are a vague and ambiguous..."
"Every verse of the Bible means exactly what the author intended it to mean..."
Full text:
How to Interpret the Bible by Darrell Ferguson
"Right, but that is usually not what you and Mr. Ferguson have decided."
Truth is truth independent from us (Ac
5:29).
[
Truth is truth independent from me (Ac
5:29).] "In your case, it's not even in the same time zone."
God's word is true (Ps
119:160). Too bad you don't believe it (1
Jn 5:10,
1 Thes 2:13).
"If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe
if I tell you heavenly things?"
Jn 3:12.
God is the creator of all things (by God [Ge
1:1;
2:4,5;
Pr 26:10] by Christ [Jn
1:3,10;
Col 1:16] by the Holy
Spirit [Job
26:13;
Ps 104:30]).
He formed the heavens and the earth and its inhabitants (Gen.
1:24-25; 2:19; Jer.
27:5) which had no previous existence (Ro
4:17;
Heb 11:3).
Creation took place in six normal days (Ex
20:11;
31:17).
God created man in his own image (Ge
1:26,27;
1Co 11:7) and likeness (Ge
1:26;
Jas 3:9) from the
beginning (Ge
1:1;
Mt 24:21,
Mk 10:6).
God created them male and female (Ge
1:26-27;
5:2,
Mt 19:4).
By faith we understand this (Heb
11:3) which leads to confidence (Ps
124:8;
146:5,6).
See:
Barbarian
Response to comment [from a Catholic]: [Truth, time zone] "Made me laugh..."
"Too bad."
~ Seth Brundle, The Fly
1 Jn 5:10,
1 Thes 2:13
Response to comment [from other]: "You are a clueless false teacher. We need to be aware of people like you."
You're projecting again (1
Jn 5:10,
1 Thes 2:13) .
CT resident: Murderer may have been fearful of being committed
NRA waited until today to make statement out of respect for families
[
God's word is true (Ps
119:160). Too bad you don't believe it (1
Jn 5:10,
1 Thes 2:13).
]
"But you aren't God."
Truth is truth independent from me (Ac
5:29,
Mt 15:9).
Response to comment [from other]: "[Westboro] "...Lovely folk..."
[
Truth] "It [sic] usually is independent from you..."
Who cares what I say? What does God say?
Jn 1:1,
2 Tim. 2:15;
Jas. 1:18
We give out the Word of God (Jn 1:1, Ac 20:20). What men do with it is their business.
Connecticut
Elementary School Shooting