Cyber Meltdown
Ron Rhodes spoke today about a future choice between
food
or receiving the mark of the beast (Re
13:17).
He believes we are headed in that direction (Crosswalk, Gino Geraci, 20 Sept
11).
[Cyber Meltdown: Rhodes]
"Warning— Read this before you open that e-mail attachment...
Computers and the Internet continue to revolutionize the way we live.
But is our increasing dependence on these technologies stealing our privacy and
setting us up for a devastating fall?
[Issues covered in his new book]
What do computer viruses do, and how do they spread?
How are terrorists and opposing nations using cyberspace as a weapon?
Is America vulnerable to cyberterrorism? If so, how?
What current events indicate that we may be living in the last days?
What new technologies seem to be paving the way for the fulfillment of end-times
prophecies in the Bible?..." Full text:
Cyber Meltdown Ron Rhodes
Response to comment [from an atheist]: "...An attack on America does not equate with the coming of the end times."
America is not mentioned in scripture.
"Naturally, but your first post implies that an attack on America and the end times are related..."
No, this will be a worldwide situation. We are headed toward a one world government, religion, currency, etc.
"...[T]hough it may be less your own words than from your source..."
Rhodes is credible.
Sidebar:
I have a nice picture with him.
"The power of the internets to organize massive events is not to be denied, but somehow picturing this as what was meant in scripture is a little comical..."
What does Re 13:17 mean to you?
"The writers at that time could not have conceptualized the internet..."
And a fisherman could not have imagined fire on the sea (2 Pe 3:12).
"...Now one can say the means matters less than the idea that the end times will come, but to place the two together is just odd."
Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction (Ro 5:8).
"I know very little of Revelations..."
Revelation
"...[B]ut as I understand it there is a lot of numbers and symbolism involved, is that what the supposed connection to the internet is?"
The Bible is more current than your morning paper.
"...[T]here are places in this book where God uses
symbols. Do you know why He uses symbols? He doesn’t do it in order to evaporate
the facts so that we can dismiss them, but because the reality which the symbol
represents is lots worse than the symbol. Many of the things which John tries to
describe to us beggar description. Even God cannot communicate some of them to
us—not because He is not able, but because we are dull of hearing, as He has
told us. We don’t always understand. I am afraid that a great many folk just do
not realize that the Great Tribulation is a terrible thing, and it is miraculous
that the 144,000 will come through it. He won’t lose one of them. Why? Because
they will be big, strong, robust fellows? No. They will overcome by the blood of
the Lamb. That’s how they will do it."
McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas
Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 5:1013-1015
Similarly, a parable is an earthly story with a heavenly meaning.
"So the end times will be more of an event of our own making, then a choice of God's?"
Jesus is returning right on schedule--on His schedule (Mt 24:36).
Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Then what's the problem? That would lead me to conclude that the US has no scriptural part to play; it's all about the various barbarian tribes in the Middle East."
No, trouble for Israel means trouble for the world, dippy. The reason we are not mentioned is likely because we merge into Europe and become irrelevant. You can't see that situation forming now?
Response to comment [from an atheist]: "One culture under Christianity? I guess everyone else will be in hell."
The coming
one world religion
is
a false religion.
See:
One world
[Revelation] "It's cryptic but as an atheist I don't really attribute much meaning to it."
"What actually comes to mind is the stock market."
Nothing new under the sun. "Under the sun" refers to man's wisdom in the world, FYI (Eccl. 1:8 vs. 2–8.; Eccl. 4:7, 8; Eccl. 5:10, 11). Live above the sun.
[Revelation] "I know very little of it."
In the first division of this book we see the person of
Christ. We see Christ in His glory and position as the Great High Priest who is
in charge of His church. We see Him in absolute control. In the Gospels we find
Him meek, lowly, humble, and dying upon a cross. He made Himself subject to His
enemies on earth. He is not like that in the Book of Revelation. He is in
control. He is still the Lamb of God, but we see the wrath of the Lamb that
terrifies the earth.
The major theme of the entire Bible is the Lord Jesus Christ. The Scriptures are
both theocentric and Christocentric. Since Christ is God, He is the One who
fills the horizon of the total Word of God. This needs to be kept in mind in the
Book of Revelation more than in any other book of the Bible, even more than in
the Gospels. The Bible tells what He has done, is doing, and will do. Revelation
emphasizes what He is doing and what He will do. We need to keep that in mind."
McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas
Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 5:887
See:
A Jet Tour Through Revelation John MacArthur
Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Israel has nukes. They're invincible as far as the other barbarian tribes are concerned. Wake me when the Temple gets rebuilt on the ruins of the Dome of the Rock, and that perfect red heifer they're trying to breed in Texas gets shipped over there to become a burnt offering or whatever."
Jesus could return at any time. The temple does not
need to be rebuilt first.
See:
Revelation Outline J. Vernon McGee
“There is no safe investment. To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything,
and your heart will certainly be wrung and possibly be broken. If you want to
make sure of keeping it intact, you must give your heart to no one, not even to
an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all
entanglements; lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But
in that casket - safe, dark, motionless, airless - it will change. It will not
be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. The
alternative to tragedy, or at least to the risk of tragedy, is damnation. The
only place outside Heaven where you can be perfectly safe from all the dangers
and perturbations of love is Hell.” ~ C.S. Lewis, The Four Loves
"Lewis seems to consider this a bad thing..."
Lewis has got you pegged.
"The more you cite McGee, the less reason I have to take him seriously..."
"And this is a problem for me because...?"
Why should I take you more seriously than you take yourself, G'bug? 2 Ti 3:1-5, Mt 7:6
"But I don't take myself seriously."
"Do you have any conceivable reason for even getting up in the morning?" ~ Kramer, Seinfeld Job 8:13; Job 11:20; Job 27:8; Job 31:24, 28; Prov. 10:28; Zech. 9:5; Eph. 2:12
"Irrelevant = no scriptural part to play."
Not exactly.
[The Return and Reign of Jesus Christ: Zechariah 7-14 Grace to You] "...Many of
the details of that coming Kingdom and of Christ's return are given in
Scripture. In fact, a major element of Old Testament prophecy is of the coming
Kingdom. The prophets frequently foretold the ending of history, the judgment of
the nations, and the reign of Messiah, thus fulfilling promises made to David (2
Sam. 7:12) and to Abraham (Gen. 12:1-3). The Messiah will come not only to
conquer the nations who oppose God, but also to redeem Israel and establish the
Kingdom into which all believing saints of all the ages will be ushered.
Similarly the New Testament is full of statements like the coming of "the Lord
is at hand" (Phil. 4:5) and "It is the last time" (1 John 2:18)..." Full text:
The Return and Reign of Jesus Christ: Zechariah 7-14
Grace to You
Response to comment [from a Christian]: " I couldn't help it, Gerald. I just attended one of our famous Bible Belt revival meetings..."
You'd fit in better here (Ga 1:6-8, Eph 4:14). Pope to hold mass in Berlin's 'Hitler's Stadium'
Response to comment [from an atheist]: "There are barbarians and then there are Barbarians..."
Six of one, half a dozen of the other (1 Tim. 6:3–5).
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "There are many kinds of cyber-terrorists, some of them, like Dr. Rhodes, trying to scare the money out of you."
Michael Scott: “Why do you keep a journal?”
Dwight Schrute: “To hide things from my computer” ~ The Office
Response to comment [from an atheist]: "The words of Alexander Pope sum
thimgs up for me: "Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be
disappointed."
You can call me many things, SD, but "hypocrite" ain't one of 'em.
Your purpose is to abide in the Lord Jesus like a branch abides in the vine (Jn 15:5). If you fail to do this, you can see that it would be reasonable for you to be bundled up with others like yourself to be tossed into the fire (Isa 14:19).
"The vast majority of humanity is "others like myself"..."
True (Ex 23:2).
"...[S]o it's not like I'll be alone."
Where did you get that idea, The Eagles? No hotel. No fellowship. You'll have only the sounds of weeping and grinding of teeth (Mt 24:51). That's bad for a social guy like yourself.
"You are aware that the Pollyanna-ish notion that most of humanity will get to heaven except for a small minority of the truly vile and hard-hearted is an extreme minority view, yes?"
Most people believe that they are good. They are wrong (Jer 17:9).
"The general Christian view is that the goats vastly outnumber the sheep, the tares vastly outnumber the wheat."
The Christian view is correct. The masses are evil (Ex 23:2). Did you not do well in math class?