Does a Christian, who is not in fellowship with God make sense to you?

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Through the years of debate, discussing, etc... I've noticed a trend for someone to feel the more Christian clichés they knew the better their faith. ...[T]o be in fellowship you must walk in the light..."

 

Take Barbarian. He would have you believe that he is not a racist; yet, he believes in Darwinian theory. If you ask him about his beliefs (e.g. Did "special" monkeys develop along special lines? Are some people groups farther along the evolutionary line than others? Why is it wrong to be racist? ), he doesn't not have much to say.

When you are indwelled with the Holy Spirit, you are indwelled with the the spirit of truth (Ac 17:26). Our values are based on scripture which is a solid foundation (Jas 1:18). Some may attempt to talk the Christian talk but they do not walk the Christian walk (Jn 16:13). They are frauds.

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

"...[I]f you are still in the flesh, the Spirit does not yet in dwell you."

 

The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth (Jn 14:26; 16:13). We understand the make-believer's worldly reasoning but we reject it (Heb 10:23).

And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not [John 1:5].

"That word “comprehend” is an unfortunate translation. And a wiseacre did not help it by rendering it, “and the darkness was not able to put it out.” That is no translation at all. The word in the Greek is katelaben, meaning actually “to take down.” It is the picture of a secretary to whom the boss is giving dictation, and she stops and says, “I can’t take that down. I am not able to take it down.” The light shines in darkness and the darkness is not able to take it in. That is it exactly. Someone said to me, “Boy, was I in darkness before I received Christ! And I don’t know why I didn’t see.” Well, that is it: you were in darkness and you did not see. The darkness just cannot take it in.

Now this is something quite interesting, and it is not true of physical light. You go into a dark room, and the minute you switch on the light, the darkness leaves, it disappears. Darkness and light cannot exist together physically. The moment you bring light in, darkness is gone. The minute light is taken out, darkness will come right back in. But spiritual light and darkness exist together. Sometimes there is a husband who is saved and a wife who is unsaved—or vice versa. Here is a believer working next to another man who says, “What do you mean when you talk about being a Christian? I do the best I can. Am I not a Christian?” There you have light and darkness side by side and the darkness just cannot take it in. That is exactly what is said here, “The light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”"
McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 4:373
 

Response to comment [from a Muslim]:  "Does a believer who does not have eternal life make sense to you?"

No.

See:


Islam

[1 Jn 5:13] "What do you think that means?"

I think it means that we are eternally secure.

See:


Once Saved Always Saved?

Eternal Life

"I believe in the assurance of the believer, and I believe in the non-assurance of the make believer." ~ J. Vernon McGee

"...It[']s apparently saying your walk new be changed before we are in fellowship within God.  That doesn't mean you aren't saved. It means people led you to believe a claim that [J]ohn clearly shows not to be accurate here. Not everyone saved is yet in fellowship with God.......yet..."

We come to the Lord as we are. Justification is a one-time event. Throughout our life, we are sanctified and one day we will be glorified.

See:


Justification

Sanctification

Glorification

1 Jn 5:3 J. Vernon McGee

 

"Most in the west believe of they say they believe that is enough. But 5:18 says if [you] are born of God, you will not sin. Can't make that claim yet."

 

We have yet the remains of sin in us (Ro 7:17,23; Ga 5:17)--except Nick.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not [1 John 5:18].

"“We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not.” As we have seen in this epistle, you and I have two natures: an old nature and a new nature. That new nature will not sin. It never sins but has a desire for God and for the things of God. That old nature will sin, and it is because of it that a believer does sin.

“But he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.” This is another verse which makes me believe that the child of God can never be demon possessed. I believe that Christians can get to the place where they are oppressed by demons, but if they are actually demon possessed, I would question their salvation—even though they may think that they are born again. Why? Because “greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world” (
1 John 4:4). The Holy Spirit would not be dwelling where a demon was."
McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 5:820-821

Also see:

Ro 7:17-7:24 J. Vernon McGee

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Aye, the words are true mate, but your narrow, eieigetical [sic] self-serving interpretation of them creates a conundrum...."

 

You've seen the new Johnny Depp movie.

 

"Is life the breath of life, or Is it the blood. Your inerrant book says both, doncha know..."

 

Move over Sophocles (Ingraham). :rolleyes:  Understand the difference between soul and spirit:

"The Hebrew word sherets, which is rendered by “moving creature” in the Authorized Version, is actually translated “creeping thing” in the eleven other places where it occurs. It seems to be essentially synonymous with remes, which is also translated “creeping thing” (Genesis 1:24, etc.). As used in Genesis 1:20, however, it evidently refers to all kinds of marine animals: invertebrates, vertebrates, reptiles.
The word “life” occurs for the first time in this verse (Hebrew nephesh). Actually, this is the word also for “soul,” and is frequently used to refer to both the soul of man and the life of animals. In the Biblical sense, plants do not have real life, or soul (or consciousness); but both animals and men do."
Morris, Henry M.: The Genesis Record : A Scientific and Devotional Commentary on the Book of Beginnings. Grand Rapids, MI : Baker Books, 1976, S. 69

"...[S]oul is/was that life spark..."

Did you get this theology from Optimus Prime.

"New agers call this, energy..."

How do you measure this energy? Proof please.

See:

New Age

 

[How do you measure this supposed energy?] "No clue..."

 

You'll need more proof.

The Bible is true. Read it.

See:

Inspired Scripture

What is a Biblical Worldview?

 

Does a Christian, who is not in fellowship with God make sense to you?