Early Church on Scripture & Tradition
Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "...[T]he early Church taught that God's Word consists of both Scripture and Tradition..."
Roman Catholics teach error (
1 Ti 6:3–5).[Roman Catholics teach error (1 Ti 6:3–5). :olinger:] "Sectarian anti-Catholics teach error (1 Tim. 6:3-5)."
One of us is lying (Ga 1:6-8).
Let's prove
who that is by the word of God (Ac 17:11).
God's word is: full and sufficient (Lk 16:29,3), an unerring guide (Pr 6:23; 2
Pe 1:19), able to make men wise unto salvation through faith in Christ Jesus (2
Ti 3:15). The scriptures are profitable both for doctrine and practice (2 Ti
3:16,17). Torrey, R.A.: The New Topical Text Book : A Scriptural Text Book for
the Use of Ministers, Teachers, and All Christian Workers. Oak Harbor, WA :
Logos research Systems, Inc., 1995, c1897
Why do you think Roman Catholics attempted to keep the word of God from people?
See:
Reformation Time Line
"We have different authorities, we believe different
gospels, we worship different Christs, we are led by different spirits and we
are on different paths to eternity. Compare this with the unity the apostle Paul
described with those who are in one body and one ......Spirit, with one hope;
one Lord, one faith, one baptism, on God and Father of all who is over all and
through all and in all (Eph 4:4-6)..." Full text:
No Idolatry & False Teaching
[The Emerging Church Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "Based on the reports we
hear from our subscribers all over the world, there are many churches on the
edge of apostasy. Many are subscribing to the latest post-modern fad called "the
emerging church" which attempts to reach the emerging generation with a new way
of "doing church." If you key "emerging church" in your favorite search engine,
you will see numerous entries declaring that worship should now be a mystical
and holistic experience using images, candles, stained glass windows and even
darkness to enhance spirituality. One of the leaders of the movement is Brian
McLaren, pastor and author of the controversial and award winning book, A New
Kind of Christian. The book expressly argues that the Bible should not be
regarded as infallible or authoritative. McLaren seeks unity between Catholics
and Evangelicals and applauds Chuck Colson for leading this unbiblical movement.
The emerging church places more importance on mystical and sensual worship
experiences that unite rather than essential biblical doctrines that divide.
Churches that move from a Word-driven message to an image-driven message only
contribute to the "dumbing down" of professing Christians. Few will be able to
discern the difference between the true Gospel and a counterfeit gospel. The end
result will be unsanctified churches which tolerate, embrace and encourage
unbelievers instead of edifying and equipping a new generation of believers."
The Emerging Church
[You nullify the Word of God by your traditions that you have handed down (Mk 7:13).] "2 Thess. 2:15"
See:
Believers Should be Established in the Word
by J Vernon McGee
[1 Cor. 11:2]
See:
Women's Dress by J. Vernon McGee
Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "[T]he Bible doesn't say that "Roman Catholics teach error""
Does the Bible say "Mormons teach error"? Does it say "Jehovah's
Witnesses teach error"?
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Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "[A]re you saying that you don't believe in the oral tradition of "Sola Scriptura"?"
I reject false traditions like
these. You should, too (Mt 15:9)."I have to accept your oral traditions to be saved, in your view?"
Don't accept what I say. Accept what God says (
Jas 1:21). What does God say?[Christians Are Exhorted To Judge Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "Many Christians are unaware of their responsibility to judge and test all things. Paul exhorted: "I pray that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve the things that are excellent, in order to be sincere and blameless until the day of Christ" (Phil. 1:9-10). Christians need to take discernment and judgment seriously in this life because of the great responsibility that awaits us in the future. Paul reminds us: "Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, matters of this life?" (1 Cor. 6:2-3). Paul even commended the Bereans for rightfully judging his teaching. "They received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily, to see whether these things were so" (Acts 17:11). The apostle John warned and exhorted Christians: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1). Clearly, all Christians are called to judge righteously by using the Word of God as the plumb line for discerning truth from error." Full text: Christians Are Exhorted To Judge
[One of us is lying (Ga 1:6-8).] "You are..."
Proof please. I have the word of God on my side (Jn 1:1). You have a guy with a pointy hat on your side (Mt 24:24, Ga 1:6-8, Ac 5:29). There are not two gospels. There is one gospel. It is one of grace not works (Eph 2:8-10).
"...[Y]our personal theological preferences and opinions contradict the authoritative teachings of Christ's historic Church..."
Your church has departed from historical, biblical Christianity (
Rev. 3:14–22)."The Apostolic Deposit of Faith (depositum fides) consists of all that Christ's historic Catholic Church believes and teaches..."
Including
error.
[How Are We To Judge? Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "John wrote: "Do not
judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" (John
7:24). Jesus said: "For in the way you judge,
you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you"
(Mat.
7:1-5). The instruction Jesus gives for judging
others is to make sure you are not guilty of the same error or sin! Paul echoed
these words when he wrote: "Do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment
upon those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will
escape the judgment of God?" (Rom.
2:3). When we judge, we must judge righteously
and with pure hearts!" Full text:
How Are We To Judge?
We believe the Bible (2
Tim. 2:15; Jas.
1:18).
You should, too.
Jesus loves you (Jn
3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2
Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze
18:30-32;
Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk
9:23).
[The Goal of Discernment Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "As we practice the
gift of discernment let us question our motives. Is our objective to be obedient
to God's word for the purpose of helping, healing, correcting, warning and
sharing in the spirit of love? Does our discernment lead people towards truth
and righteous living? Are we concerned for the purity of the body of Christ?
Have we come to acknowledge that when the gift of discernment is not exercised,
the church cannot be purged of error and sin and the name of Jesus Christ cannot
be fully glorified and honored as the Holy Head of His Body, the Church.
The critical issue in the Church today is the purity of the Gospel. That alone
is the rudder that must guide the Church through stormy waters that have been
stirred up by every wind of doctrine. Take away the ability to discern objective
truth and churches turn into cafeterias serving whatever junk food people want
instead of the disciplined diet they need for spiritual life and health. Without
a steady diet of the whole counsel of God, churches become entertainment centers
for goats instead of sanctuaries for the Shepherd's sheep (Mat.
25:32). Unregenerate people, who are never
exhorted to examine their faith, will continue attending church to enjoy the
music, entertainment and "feel good" messages. Unless these people are
confronted with their sin, their need for a Savior and the eternal consequences
of a spurious faith, they are destined to hear these terrifying words from
Jesus: "'I never knew you; depart from Me" (Mat.
7:23)..." Full text:
The Goal of Discernment
Response to comment [from other]: "Jn 1:1 doesn't say that..."
See:
Jn 1:1
"God is Infinitely Merciful..."
"One of these days the dam of God's mercy will give way to his justice." ~ Adrian Rogers De 32:4;
Isa 45:21Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "...[Y]ou simply do not get a vote..."
Truth is truth independent from me (
Dan 10:21). We compare scripture with scripture (1 Co 2:13) not men's opinions (Mt 15:9). We have no middleman.Early Church on Scripture & Tradition