Paul: The Commandments Made Me Want to Lust and Sin

Response to comment [from a Christian]:

RBBI View Post
You have the typical understanding of the law...

How much can I get away with and still be saved? 2 Cor. 13:3–5

Robert Pate View Post
Christians are not under an kind of laws...

But if you break it, we've got a jail cell for you (1 Ti 1:9).

Robert Pate View Post
...It was contrary to us because no one could keep it or do it.

Ps 119:97

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "And, if one seeks to follow the law, one must keep it 100%..."

Throw the baby out with the bathwater. 1 Jn 1:7

Response to comment [from a Jew]: "Either:  1. Pate misunderstands Paul or 2. Paul is a sick man..."

Honey badger don't care. Ro 3:31, 6:15

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "He said if a man lust in his heart after a woman he has already committed adultery with her, correct?”

Yes, he elevated the understanding of the law. He didn’t come to say drink up and fornicate on.

“Same with hate being as of the sin of murder, rebellion and witchcraft, stubbornness and idolatry, yes?”

Yes, to heaven’s standard unrighteous anger toward your brother is like murder (1 Jn 3:15).

“So now tell me, are those of the law or not?”

The standard is higher not lower. 

“Since they are sins committed also in the heart, how do you know beyond a shadow of any doubt that your heart, the heart of man that only devises wickedness continually, has been cleansed of that?”

When we are born again we are made a new creation.  A butterfly will not return to the creepy crawly thing he was.  He no longer has a sin nature (he’s a new creation) but he is still in the flesh so sin issues can come up from time to time.  Will his life be dominated by sin?  No, it won’t (Mt 7:20).

“How exactly does the Spirit write the law on your heart?”

The law is on every man’s heart.

“Please explain to me in detail the process, if you know it, and make sure you point it out to me with the OT scriptures, since they are the witness.”

Ps 40:8

“The baptism of water, was/is that under the law or no?” 

OT believers cleansed themselves.

See:

What is the origin of baptism?

“Passover/initial salvation, was/is that under the law or no? Same with Pentecost which was spiritually fulfilled, was that part of the law or no?”

Passover was to be remembered annually (Ex. 12:24–27).  Pentecost was observed in Solomon’s time (2 Chr. 8:12, 13).   

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "The NT Passover is to be observed annually by the NT church of God. For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes. (1 Corinthians 11:26 NKJV)."

 OT believers knew the necessity of the blood (Ex. 12:7).

As a reminder Jamie is number 18 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category.

"NT believers know that the blood is only for the firstborn."

The blood was a means of atonement (Lev. 17:10–14).

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "So is the higher standard anything like keeping a game score track record going on people who are on some preposterous "TOL heretic's list"?"

You're welcome. 

Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them (Eph 5:8–11). 

"Would it do any good to point out that all 3 main feasts were to be observed FOREVER, are part of the law, and have been spiritually as well as naturally observed since the events recorded in Acts 2, which by the way since the events described in Acts 2 was supposedly "after" the time of the law and yet was also partaken of by the gentiles too, present a problem for the theory it doesn't exist anymore? Or is that an acceptable elephant in the room too?"

There is nothing wrong with the law. There is something wrong with the reprobate heart (2 Cor. 13:3–5).

Celebrate whatever feasts you'd like. Torah Calendar

"Do you know what unfruitful works of darkness are?..."

Do I have to talk about it? Eph 5:12

Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God (Ga 5:19–21).
 

Paul: The Commandments Made Me Want to Lust and Sin