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In-your-face Sodomites for football fans on Superbowl Sunday. That's a great idea.

And we thought the big, black, breast was bad.

"The 30-second spot shows two men excitedly watching the game, before their hands brush as they both reach into a bowl of chips..."

Story.

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "Oh come on. If a pro-life ad can air, the only fair thing is for spots from the other side of the spectrum to air, too."

Fair is fair in love and war right? (Eph 6:12). Problem is--you don't care if our society sinks into the depths of depravity (Deut 28).

The rest of us do.

Avert your eyes? That's your advice as homosexuals attempt to redefine 3500 years of the God-ordained institution of marriage and undermine the family?

We were told that same sex marriage would not affect society in any profound way. Homosexuals didn't stay in the closet did they? Either we or they will be in the closet (Enyart). You may wish to pull the wool over your eyes but I don't plan to give up my society any time soon.

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "I think you're a complete and rotten hypocrite."

"You said this today on another thread: 'Are conservatives the only ones standing for First Amendment rights?' Well, you tell me. Because right now it seems as though you're all in favor of the First Amendment so long as whoever's talking agrees with you, and stand in opposition to it whenever you might hear a differing point of view."

I support freedom of speech. Conservatives win on the battlefield of ideas and liberals know this. This is why they wish to silence them.

Some would say: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it (Evelyn Beatrice Hall)." I would not be one of them. I would not die for a crucifix to be dipped in urine and called art. I would not die for Janet Jackson's right to flash her falsies into the camera on Superbowl Sunday for all of the children of America to see.

I would not die for a Brokeback Mountain-type commercial to be aired during the next Superbowl.

Maybe you would.

A godless society will be a finished society (Deut 28).

Response to comment [from other]: "Why should gay people have to stay in [the closet]? To appease your sensibilities?"

Truth is truth in dependant from me. Sodomites need forgiveness for their sin like everyone else (1 Cor 6:9). Jesus loves them. He is willing to forgive them if they will recognize their sin, repent, and put their trust in him.

Response to comment [from an agnostic]: "They should have the liberty to advertise if they can afford it."

Should society allow commercials promoting bestiality? pedophilia? Most people have a set of values. Pray tell, where do you draw the line? Please articulate where you compromise God's values and replace them with your own (Jer 17:9).

"No, and if it needs to be explained to you why crimes that violate people aren't tolerated by general society then you need to buy a clue."

Homosexuality is a crime (Lev. 18:22). For 3500 years Judeo-Christian legal history has outlawed homosexual behavior. Homosexuality does violate another (Ro 1:27). It has nothing to do with love (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27). Homosexuals use on another.

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "So you only support speech you agree with. Got it."

Freedom of speech is not without limits. "Exceptions established by the courts to the First Amendment protections include the following: Defamation | Causing panic | Fighting words | Incitement to crime | Sedition | Obscenity..." Full text: Freedom of Expression at the National Endowment for the Arts

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "You're a hypocrite. You only support free speech with which you agree. Quit pretending to care so much about the First Amendment when you'd deny anyone you dislike the right to speak."

Too bad you don't understand the court's decisions about the limitations on free speech. These limitations are there for the protection of our citizens. For a Satanist, maybe anything goes. :idunno:

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Who the hell are you to tell people whether they love each other or not?"

Here's what it isn't--homosexuality (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27). The restricted reference to sexual passion is found in Eph. 2:3; 1 Jn. 2:16; 1 Pet. 2:11. The strong desire of the Spirit is set over against that of the flesh in Gal. 5:17. Wood, D. R. W. (1996, c1982, c1962). New Bible Dictionary (706). InterVarsity Press.

Sodomites do not love one another. Love seeks the well-being of another (Jn 10:10). Love is not involved in homosexuality. Lust is involved. Using one another is involved. But love is not present.

Satan has no raw materials. He counterfeits love. He seeks to invert and pervert God's word.

Response to comment [from other]: "Homosexuality is not illegal, nor should it be."

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: ""Maybe" you don't know what the world you're talking about."

I know enough to know that you stand for what God stands against.

What else is there to know?

Why don't you explain to everyone, why they should follow the Satanist?

[So, for you anyone can say anything at any time?] "As long as it's not inciting hatred and violence then yeah, sure."

We know how you love obscenity and conveniently left that one out. So, if you could just: stay indoors, and keep a little distance from our children, and not participate in any law-making, we'll all be happy.

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "I'm not asking anyone to "follow" me, pinhead."

That's good.

Now, why should anyone care what you have to say? Your values aren't based on the Bible.

If your values are based on your wicked, Satanic heart (Jer 17:9)

, why should we listen to you or Linda Blair

or anyone else?

This is my point--Values are based on something. Either we trust our hearts (which are wicked [Jer 17:9]) or we trust God and his word.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "I don't buy the cheap, icky-tasting beer...quit being a little crybaby."

[Buying Sluts] "No. Whether I do or not, what does that have to do with anything?"

That would have nothing to do with anything. Buying whores? Who cares?

You're truth...my truth...It's all the same.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Oh come on. If by "the other side of the spectrum” you mean evil, you should just say it."

I don't think he uses this word. I think it's offensive.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "...[P]ro-choice folks that might be offended by a pro-life commercial."

Yes, the long-toothed lesbian-types (Giles) are offended by other women choosing life. The women's groups are critiquing the ad before they've even seen it.. How dare they promote life (Jn 10:10).

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "So, like SD, you don't support free speech. You only support the free speech of people you happen to agree with. That's not free speech at all."

We went over that Graniteheart. You're cheating now.

Didn't we address the fact that the courts have decided that free speech may be limited in certain circumstances?

"Exceptions established by the courts to the First Amendment protections include the following: Defamation | Causing panic | Fighting words | Incitement to crime | Sedition | Obscenity..." Full text: Full text: Freedom of Expression at the National Endowment for the Arts

To let your type take over our great country? No. It is us to hold the wicked back (Eph 6:12).

Response to comment [from other]: "The *problem* is that we will not allow someone such as yourself to define what is or isn't good for society."

Right, you want your seedy, vile hands on our country

and we won't hand it over to you without a fight (Eph 6:12). It's a "this town ain't big enough for the both of us moment."

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "[R]id yourself of that hokey religion you follow."

Selling a can of soup is quite different than selling the homosexual lifestyle (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27). Homosexuality leads to death (1 Cor 6:9). Following God's plan and purpose leads to life (Jn 10:10).

When you care about people, you tell them this. You don't stand back while they destroy themselves and attempt to influence others to follow their example (Pr 27:5).

Response to comment [from an agnostic]: "They should have the liberty to advertise if they can afford it. If you don't like it change the channel when commercials come on."

Whose liberty are we talking about? Those who promote porn (or similarly deviant things) say that they want the freedom to choose what see on T.V., on billboards, or in magazines. We can't choose. It's chosen for us. Whose liberty are they speaking of?

Response to comment [from other]: [Sodomite ads pop up in this thread] "I noticed that, too. Even poor SD is unwittingly a part of the homosexual machine."

I thought the Sodomites said their lives and "marriages" would not affect ours. Funny, they were happy once to remain in the closet, but no longer. Now, they insist on pushing it our faces until we accept it. :vomit:

What they used to do in secret, they now do openly and proudly. This is an indication that you've lost your country (Hos 7:2-8). Too bad we believed their lies.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [Whose liberty are we talking about? Those who promote porn (or similarly deviant things) say that they want the freedom to choose what see on T.V., on billboards, or in magazines. We can't choose. It's chosen for us. Whose liberty are they speaking of?] "Change the channel. Or turn off the TV."

So you you believe in liberty for the godless but not for the Christian? (Josh 24:15). How will you explain your justification for porn before the one you claim to love? Zech. 8:17.

"Freedom of expression applies to everyone, not just those who you want to listen to."

What about freedom for those who do not wish to view porn? Their freedom is taken away when perv's like you or Janet Jackson promote pushing it in other's faces. Many people wanted the freedom not to view her big, black breast.

Response to comment [from other]: "Just a coupla more things though..." [homo specifics]

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "They were "happy" to remain in the closet the same way blacks were "happy" to remain on the back of the bus, you twit."

How wicked of you to equate skin color with depraved behavior (1 Kin. 14:24). A person cannot change his or her skin color (Jer 13:23). The homosexual can repent of his sin. He can be freed from sexual sin and enslavement (Jn 8:34).

"This country is about justice and equality for all Americans. Not just the straight ones."

This country was founded in Judeo-Christian ethics. For 3500 years homosexuality was a crime (Lev. 18:22). Your new morality is just old sin.

I promote a return to Judeo-Christian values. You stand for everything God stands against (1 Kin. 14:24).

What the homosexual used to do in private, he now does openly and with the support of leadership. When this happens, you've lost your country (Hos 7:2-8).

As a reminder, a Christian changes his mind about these things. A Christian gives up his will (pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality, humanism, etc.) for God will. The repentant heart is evidenced by fruits (Isa 1:16,17; Da 4:27; Mt 3:8; Ac 26:20).

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30).

Response to comment [from other]: "Their lives affect yours if you let it affect yours."

They tried to tell us that their Sodomite "marriages" would not affect real marriages. Then, they sort of pushed indoctrinating your children and promoting homosexual material in schools, didn't they?

Then, it became illegal in Colorado, for example, to preach Romans. You support freedom for the homosexual--just not the Christian. You are all for "tolerance"--as long as you don't have to tolerate a Christian.

"Forget happy marriages, now it is legalized sodomite unions. God gave Sodom and Gomorrah as a warning to future generations that would turn from him. "As Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire (Jud 7:7, NKJV)." Gen 19:1-29.

Commandment - Honor your father and your father? No, "Honor your father and your mother (Ex 20:12, NKJV).

'Christianity and Homosexuality are Mutually Exclusive. One will be in the Closet (Enyart)...'" Full text: Revival for Survival

Response to comment [from a pagan]: [Janet Jackson's big, black breast] "...[P]rosecute any one that has a misshape on stage."

Her big, black breast had a star on it, didn't it? Why would she decorate it if she did not intend to shove it in everyone's face on national television?

You call this normal?

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [How will you explain your justification for porn before the one you claim to love? Zech. 8:17] "I don't "justify" porn, liar. I support free-speech."

1. People who shove their sexual depravity into the faces of others like homosexuals holding hands in Superbowl commercials.

2. The Janet Jackson-types who insist on forcing their nudity on others who do not wish to see this.

We don't want these choices made for us. You're a pro-choice kinda person, right?

Because I got the impression when you said: "Change the channel. Or turn off the TV," you would not be defending the righteous' choice. You would only defend the wicked in matters of free-speech. By all means, clarify. I'm sure we can count on you (Josh 24:15).

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Holding hands isn't sexual depravity by any stretch of the imagination. There is no "right" not to see that anywhere."

So you won't be sticking up for the rights of the righteous not to see this depravity anytime soon.

As Dennis Prager likes to say "I prefer clarity to agreement." We know which side you are on (Josh 24:15).

The righteous can only count on you in their choice to change a television channel? You do not support their choice not to have porn and depravity thrown in their faces?

"Janet and her friend were fined, weren't they? Nobody is condoning that "wardrobe malfunction" so what exactly are you whining about?"

Why would they be fined? Do you take the position that they did something wrong?

For the wicked: They get to thrust their porn, perversion, and depravity into the faces of the righteous who do not wish to view it.

For the righteous: To have no choice in what they view. They will succumb to the wicked.

Response to comment [from other]: "...[A]s a parent it is my duty to make sure my children don't view these things."

Did parents fail in their responsibilities when they allowed their children to watch the Superbowl the night that Janet Jackson performed? Do children's rights stop where Janet Jackson's breasts begin?

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Nobody has the right to be isolated from things they disapprove..."

You remind me of that doctor from A Clockwork Orange who held the guy's eyes open so that he had to view porn for a bad science experiment. :vomit:

You consistently stand opposed to goodness and decency. It's not going to end well for you (Isa 45:9).

"I do not support anyone's choice to censor others or deprive them of their rights of free expression."

Thankfully, heaven will be a place without filthy people (De 26:15; Ps 20:6; Isa 57:15). It's just a matter of time. Tick...tick...tick.... If you'd like your name written in heaven, you'd better allow Jesus to clean up your heart (Lu 10:20; Heb 12:23). The wicked won't be going there (Ga 5:21; Eph 5:5; Re 22:15).

[Janet Jackson ordeal and television fines: "Why would they be fined? Do you take the position that they did something wrong?"] "They violated the regulations that govern how and what we broadcast."

That's correct. That means they did something wrong (for those who have a functioning conscience [Heb 13:18; 1Pe 3:16,21]).

"[P]erhaps you should consider becoming Amish or joining one of those other seperationist sects."

McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the Thru the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (3:366-367). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Response to comment [from other]: "[W]hy not evil-proof your home (or bridge) by going through and demolishing every television, radio, game player and computer in the house.

Then be sure to keep the kiddos from going out into the world where your pleas of censorship will be disregarded."

We live in the world not of it.

See:

In the World - But Not of the World

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [Support for porn, homosexuality] "You remind me of a very stupid person..."

"Seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness (Mt 6:33)."

Response to comment [from other]: "We. You have every right and should control whatever comes across your TV screen. However, you do not have the right to censor what we actually view."

Thankfully, even the godless courts disagree with you.

See:

Shock the Conscience Test

Pornography

Obscene

"Seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness (Mt 6:33)."

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Follow your own advice, liar."

Liars do not keep God's commandments (like you, a pro-abort, pro-homosexual, humanist [John 2:4]).

Response to comment [from other]: "The *godless courts* [do] not determine what I view when I am watching the television."

Are you on the hunt for more depravity? Not getting enough in our fine culture?

"Unlike you, some of us are not so bored with our own lives that we feel the need to moan and groan about what others are viewing on their television screens."

I moan and groan about your viewing habits?

No, but you will (Mt 22:13).

I have no idea what you watch on TV. Many over-porned types needs little blue pills in the future because they abuse their God-given bonding mechanisms (Gal 6:8).

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "The ad didn't even run..."

Yes, you've said that twice now. Thank you.

"...and SD still finds an excuse to complain."

We were discussing ideas, did you have something to add?

I think we stayed on topic for the most part too, as you like.

What's wrong Granite? Do you have a tummy ache?

Response to comment [from a Satanist]: "You have nothing to add except insults. I'm moving on from this thread."

Ok.

"Watching someone gripe because they have nothing better to do isn't my idea of fun."

Ensuring that the public is protected from filth and perversion is griping? If people would act decently there would be no need for such laws. Laws are for the lawless (1 Ti 1:9).

See:

Shock the Conscience Test

Pornography

Obscene

What kind of world do you want to live in?

Response to comment [from other]: "Of course I am..."

And you call me a troll?

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [I follow a person (Isa 26:4).] "You follow a silly fairy tale."

"Frogs turn into princes, we call that a fairy tale in a book. Tadpoles turn into frogs, we call that science in a lab." ~ Adrienne Rogers

"All life ends in death."

My pastor has a friend who is a doctor. He examines dead guys. He asked him if he's ever witnessed a dead person coming back to life. The doctor said "no". He asked him if he believes that Jesus rose from the dead. He said "yes". I wonder why that is? Heb 11:1.

[Homosexuality] "[is] not a lifestyle."

When the police arrive on the scene of a homosexual homicide, they know it immediately. It's is far bloodier and far more gruesome than a "normal" murder scene. This is not a crime of "passion". It is perversion manifested in the extreme (1 Kin. 14:24).

Why do you think God forbids homosexual behavior? Lev. 18:22.

Homosexuality is not about love or wanting the best for another person. Love is not the case. Using one another is the case. When you love the homosexual, you tell him this.

"...[R]id yourself of this rather silly belief system..."

Isn't it sillier to believe that something comes from nothing?

* Cosmological argument:

• Everything that had a beginning has a cause.
• The universe had a beginning.
• Therefore, the universe had a cause.

Design argument:

• Every design has a designer.
• The universe—and life—has a highly complex design.
• Therefore, there is a Great Designer.

Moral argument

• Moral laws require a lawgiver
• Absolute moral laws exist.
• Therefore, there is an absolute Moral Lawgiver. Full text: Evidence of God

It's not intellectual trouble. It's heart trouble.

"...It's making you a total lunatic."

"We're called 'nuts' but we're secured to a solid bolt." ~ Adrienne Rogers

Response to comment [from other]: "What's more he is a complete hypocrite to even pursue this argument by just being online...This site has pop up ads for gay dating which you can't get rid of...double standards and hypocrisy."

A person who offers his/her opinion on a site devoted to religion and politics is a hypocrite when a pop-up ad comes up?

Be honest , do you love the word "hypocrite" and just somehow try to work it into each sentence, don't you?

Am I a: sexist, Islamophobic, xenophobic, homophobic, racist, bigot if I fail to download the latest version of Norton's Pop-Up Blocker? It doesn't say that in the terms of acceptance.