The Bible: History Channel series
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [RandomThoughts recommends] "Now I know it is garbage."
Exactly.
Even the New York Slimes gave it a bad
review.
Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Then it must be worth watching..."
Touché.
The NY Times is not troubled by making
images of Jesus (Ex 20:4).
The review that I read said that they
project was too big. They did not have
enough time to develop the characters.
See:
History Channel Unveils Notable Miniseries
'The Bible'
Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: " Immature people will not form an intelligent opinion because I made a simple, qualified statement (the issue for Nick is personal with me, not substantial)."
Ad hominem. Eph 5:11
SD: “ Could he [jesus] have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
See:
Godrulz
Your "Jesus" is not the Jesus of scripture (Jn
1:1, Heb 4:15). If Jesus could or would have
sinned, then the Father could or would have
sinned, too. Jesus does the will of his
Father (Jn 5:30).
Explain how Jesus' commitment to
righteousness is dissimilar to the Father's
commitment to righteousness.
God is one (Deut 6:4). He is holy. God is
known for his holiness (Psalm 93:5) He
cannot tolerate sin (Isaiah 59:2). God uses
his Word to make us holy (John 17:17). He is
worthy of praise because he is holy
(Revelation 4:8). Tyndale House Publishers.
(2007). Holy Bible: New Living Translation
(3rd ed.). Carol Stream, IL: Tyndale House
Publishers.
"Did you watch all 10 hours?"
No. The bad news is
Rick Warren
was an advisor. The good news is so was Bob
Beltz.
The former is a compromised Christian. The
latter is not.
He is God and not man (Hos
11:9).
Jesus had no sin nature which would be the
source of any act of sin (Jn
1:1,
Heb 4:15).
His thoughts are not our thoughts (Isa
55:8).
SD: “ Could he [jesus] have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
See:
Godrulz
"2
Co 5:21
Here Paul summarized the heart of the
gospel, resolving the mystery and paradox of
vv. 18–20, and explaining how sinners can be
reconciled to God through Jesus Christ.
These 15 Gr. words express the doctrines of
imputation and substitution like no other
single verse. who knew no sin. Jesus Christ,
the sinless Son of God (see notes on
Gal. 4:4,
5;
cf.
Luke 23:4,
14,
22,
47;
John 8:46;
Heb. 4:15;
7:26;
1 Pet. 1:19;
2:22–24;
3:18;
Rev. 5:2–10).
sin for us. God the Father, using the
principle of imputation (see note on v. 19),
treated Christ as if He were a sinner though
He was not, and had Him die as a substitute
to pay the penalty for the sins of those who
believe in Him (cf.
Is. 53:4–6;
Gal. 3:10–13;
1 Pet. 2:24).
On the cross, He did not become a sinner (as
some suggest), but remained as holy as ever.
He was treated as if He were guilty of all
the sins ever committed by all who would
ever believe, though He committed none. The
wrath of God was exhausted on Him and the
just requirement of God’s law met for those
for whom He died. the righteousness of God.
Another reference to justification and
imputation. The righteousness that is
credited to the believer’s account is the
righteousness of Jesus Christ, God’s Son
(see notes on
Rom. 1:17;
3:21–24;
Phil. 3:9).
As Christ was not a sinner, but was treated
as if He were, so believers who have not yet
been made righteous (until glorification)
are treated as if they were righteous. He
bore their sins so that they could bear His
righteousness. God treated Him as if He
committed believers’ sins, and treats
believers as if they did only the righteous
deeds of the sinless Son of God (MacArthur,
2 Co 5:21)...
Heb 1:3
brightness. The term is used only here in
the NT. It expresses the concept of sending
forth light or shining (cf.
John 8:12;
2 Cor. 4:4,6).
The meaning of “reflection” is not
appropriate here. The Son is not just
reflecting God’s glory, He is God and
radiates His own essential glory. express
image of His person. The term translated
“express image” is used only here in the NT.
In extrabiblical literature, it was employed
for an engraving on wood, an etching in
metal, a brand on animal hide, an impression
in clay, and a stamped image on coins.
“Person” is a word expressing nature, being,
or essence. The Son is the perfect imprint,
the exact representation of the nature and
essence of God in time and space (cf.
John 14:9;
Col. 1:15;
2:9).
upholding. The universe and everything in it
is constantly sustained by the Son’s
powerfully effective word (Col.
1:17). The
term also conveys the concept of movement or
progress—the Son of God directs all things
toward the consummation of all things
according to God’s sovereign purpose. He who
spoke all things into existence also
sustains His creation and consummates His
purpose by His word. purged our sins. By the
substitutionary sacrifice of Himself on the
cross (cf.
Titus 2:14;
Rev. 1:5).
sat down at the right hand. The right hand
is the place of power, authority, and honor
(cf. v. 13;
Rom. 8:34;
1 Pet. 3:22).
It is also the position of subordination,
implying that the Son is under the authority
of the Father (cf.
1 Cor. 15:27,28).
The seat that Christ has taken is the throne
of God (8:1; 10:12; 12:2) where He rules as
sovereign Lord. This depicts a victorious
Savior, not a defeated martyr. While the
primary thrust of this phrase is the
enthronement of Christ, His sitting might
also imply the completion of His atoning
work (MacArthur,
Heb 1:3)...
Ga 4:4
the fullness of the time. In God’s
timetable, when the exact religious,
cultural, and political conditions demanded
by His perfect plan were in place, Jesus
came into the world. God sent forth His Son.
As a father set the time for the ceremony of
his son becoming of age and being released
from the guardians, stewards, and tutors, so
God sent His Son at the precise moment to
bring all who believe out from under bondage
to the law—a truth Jesus repeatedly affirmed
(John
5:30,
36,
37;
6:39,
44,
57;
8:16,
18,
42;
12:49;
17:21,
25;
20:21).
That the Father sent Jesus into the world
teaches His pre-existence as the eternal
second member of the Trinity. See notes on
Phil. 2:6,
7;
Heb. 1:3–5;
cf.
Rom. 8:3,
4.
born of a woman. This emphasizes Jesus’ full
humanity, not merely His virgin birth (Is.
7:14;
Matt. 1:20–25).
Jesus had to be fully God for His sacrifice
to be of the infinite worth needed to atone
for sin. But, He also had to be fully man so
He could take upon Himself the penalty of
sin as the substitute for man. See
Luke 1:32,
35;
John 1:1,
14,
18.
under the law. Like all men, Jesus was
obligated to obey God’s law. Unlike anyone
else, however, He perfectly obeyed that law
(John
8:46;
2 Cor. 5:21;
Heb. 4:15;
7:26;
1 Pet. 2:22;
1 John 3:5).
His sinlessness made Him the unblemished
sacrifice for sins, who “fulfilled all
righteousness,” i.e., perfectly obeyed God
in everything. That perfect righteousness is
what is imputed to those who believe in
Him." The MacArthur Study Bible. 1997 (J.
MacArthur, Jr., Ed.) (electronic ed.) (Ga
4:4).
Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
"...Much was very accurate based on Scripture..."
Was there ever a time
that Jesus did not exist? Jn 1:1
See:
Is Jesus the Creator?
"He is the eternal I AM as stated by Jesus in the series. He is also Alpha and Omega (eternality) also in movie."
Was there ever a time
that Jesus did not exist?
Jn 1:1
Explain the difference
between Jesus (holy [Lev
11:44,
Heb 4:15)
and yourself (sinner [Ro
3:23,
5:8,
6:23,
10:9,
10:13]).
How big is that difference?
Isa 14:14
"The eternal Word became flesh..."
It's a yes or no
question: Was there ever a time that Jesus
did not exist? Jn 1:1
[A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life by
William Law] "Humility does not mean having
a lower opinion of ourselves than we
deserve, but having a just sense of our
weakness and sin. We are too weak of
ourselves to do anything, even exist. It is
solely the power of God which allows us to
do anything including moving toward him.
Thus pride is like theft; the proud take
God's glory to themselves.
To develop personal humility during your
meditations, simply examine your life.
Suppose that all of your thoughts would
suddenly be transparent to the world. If
everyone knew what secret motivation corrupt
even your most noble actions, you would no
longer expect to be respected for your
goodness.
Think how shameful the nature of sin is, how
great the atonement necessary to cleanse us
of its guilt. Nothing less was required than
the suffering and death of the Son of God.
Is there any room for pride while we partake
in such a nature as this?
All of us love humility and hate pride--in
other people.
Turn your eyes toward heaven and consider
how different you are from the angels They
do no contemplate their perfections, but
they all have the same joy. Consider how
unreasonable it is for human sinners to bask
in their positions of respect while the
magnificent seraphim give honor to God
alone. Let a person who is pleased with
himself contemplate our blessed Lord nailed
and stretched out upon a cross, comparing
himself to that meek and crucified Savior
(pg. 260, Bell, Dawson)."
Also see:
Is Jesus All-powerful and Eternal?
"The human man is not eternal. (Jesus is His earthly name. He is YHWH in pre-existence.[)]"
Was Jesus raised
bodily?
See:
The Jesus test, the gospel test, and the
fruit test
[Was there ever a time that Jesus did not
exist?
Jn 1:1/Was Jesus raised bodily?
Lk 24:38-39] "Jesus was raised bodily.
Verses say that God, Father, Jesus Himself,
Spirit raised Him (co-raisers like
co-creators for the world). I answered
your question as no, but it needs
qualification, lest we teach a false view
that the body of Jesus of Nazareth from Mary
is eternal (it was not)."
Who is we?
Eph 5:11
You are a modalist. You are not a Christian
(2
Pe 2:1).
What do you claim to have answered "no" to?
Provide a link.
See:
Godrulz
Jesus' Resurrection was physical
"I affirmed Jn. 1:1, so get a life."
The Jesus of scripture
is God (Jn 1:1). He is holy (Heb
4:15). He
was raised bodily (Luke
24:38-39).
Understand the spirit of antichrist (1
Jn 4:2-6).
See:
The Jesus test, the gospel test, and the
fruit test
Explain the difference between Jesus (holy [Lev
11:44,
Heb 4:15)
and yourself (sinner [Ro
3:23,
5:8,
6:23,
10:9,
10:13]).
How big is that difference?
"Jesus is sinless..."
SD: “ Could he [jesus]
have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
See:
Godrulz
"I am your brother in Christ whether you, the accuser of the brethren, thinks so or not."
A brother
would answer these questions plainly (2
Pe 2:1).
Was there ever a time that Jesus did not
exist?
Jn 1:1
Was Jesus raised bodily?
Lk 24:38-39
"You are a slanderer who lacks integrity and credibility, just like Nick M. (same spirit)."
What you call slander we call discernment (Eph
4:14).
What character trait do you believe has
prevented you from explaining the difference
between God and yourself?
Ge 3:5,
Ro 1:25
You are a sinner who sins (Ro
3:12,
1 Co 15:22).
God is not a sinner (Jn
1:1,
1 Jn 1:5).
He does not sin (Heb
4:15).
See:
Are Subtle Differences Really Minor
Differences?
How Are God’s Thoughts Different Than Our
Thoughts?
How Is God’s Holiness Not Our Way?
Did God Really Say Savage Wolves Will Attack
the Flock?
"SD: I explained my affirmation of the eternality of the Word/Christ (but not the physical body of Jesus) and the physical, bodily resurrection of Christ (contrary to JWs)."
Was this post in reply
to me? Why do you
link it to
Jason0047?
Eph 4:14
As a reminder, instant email notification is
inop.
SD: "Was there ever a time that Jesus did
not exist?
Jn 1:1 Was
Jesus raised bodily?
John 2:19-21;
Mark 8:31;
9:31;
10:34
Godrulz: "...I answered your question as no,
but it needs qualification, lest we teach a
false view that the body of Jesus of
Nazareth from Mary is eternal (it was not)."
link
Understand the spirit
of antichrist (1
Jn 4:2-6).
See:
The Jesus test, the gospel test, and the
fruit test
"You have not shown me that I am not in full agreement with you on these issues."
Your Jesus is
imperfect.
The Jesus of scripture is: perfect, holy and
righteous (Jn
1:1,
Heb 4:15,
Ps 50:2,
Isa 6:3,
Jas 1:13).
See:
Why is the truth of the bodily resurrection
of Jesus Christ so important? Is it
important that Jesus was resurrected in a
physical body?
Why is the reality of the bodily
resurrection of Jesus so central to the
Christian faith? Why does it matter that
Jesus was literally, physically,...
Why Would We Still Be in Our Sins if Christ
Was not Raised?
"...You have not shown me that I am not in full agreement with you on these issues."
We do not agree (Eph
4:14,
Ga 5:9).
"You just try to make it look like I deny what I affirm."
Ad hominem
Your own words condemn you (Lk
19:22).
See:
Godrulz
"The impeccability is another issue and we both agree that God/Jesus does not, will not, has not ever sinned, past, present, future."
SD: “ Could he
[jesus] have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did not…”
link
Is the doctrine of depravity biblical?
"Ro
7:18 in me … nothing good dwells. The flesh
serves as a base camp from which sin operates in the Christian’s life. It is not
sinful inherently (see note 6:6), but because of its fallenness, it is still
subject to sin and is thoroughly contaminated. my flesh. The part of the
believer’s present being that remains unredeemed (see notes on 6:6, 12; 7:5)...
Ro 6:6
our old man. A believer’s unregenerate self. The Gr. word for “old” does not
refer to something old in years but to something that is worn out and useless.
Our old self died with Christ, and the life we now enjoy is a new divinely-given
life that is the life of Christ Himself (cf.
Gal. 2:20).
We have been removed from the unregenerate self’s presence and control, so we
should not follow the remaining memories of its old sinful ways as if we were
still under its evil influence (see notes on
Eph. 4:20–24;
Gal. 5:24;
Col. 3:9,
10).
body of sin. Essentially synonymous with “our old man.” Paul uses the terms
“body” and “flesh” to refer to sinful propensities that are intertwined with
physical weaknesses and pleasures (e.g., 8:10, 11, 13, 23). Although the old
self is dead, sin retains a foothold in our temporal flesh or our unredeemed
humanness, with its corrupted desires (7:14–24). The believer does not have two
competing natures, the old and the new; but one new nature that is still
incarcerated in unredeemed flesh (see note on v. 12). But the term “flesh” is
not equivalent to the physical body, which can be an instrument of holiness (v.
19; 12:1;
1 Cor. 6:20).
done away. Rendered powerless or inoperative." The MacArthur Study Bible. 1997
(J. MacArthur, Jr., Ed.) (electronic ed.) (Ro
6:6). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
See:
The Universal Grace of God
Depravity--is it Biblical?
["Was there ever a time that Jesus did not exist? Jn 1:1 Was Jesus raised
bodily? John 2:19-21; Mark 8:31; 9:31; 10:34]
...crickets...
See:
Godrulz
Do you reject the biblical concept of the flesh (a predestination to do evil
which is inherited)?
See:
Victory Over the Flesh, Part 1 by Adrian Rogers
[Was there ever a time that Jesus did
not exist?
Jn 1:1 Was Jesus raised bodily?
John 2:19-21;
Mark 8:31;
9:31;
10:34, What do you claim to have answered "no"
to?, Do you reject the biblical concept of the flesh (a predestination to do
evil which is inherited)?. etc...See:
Victory Over the Flesh, Part 1 by Adrian Rogers
]
"Still have a bee in your bonnet...?
"
What you call a bee in bonnet I call essential Christian doctrine.
These are simple questions (Eph
4:14).
See:
Godrulz
[Simple questions not answered
] "I have answered them in detail for you over and over."
Let the Reader
decide.
See:
Godrulz
"You are a game player."
You are an antichrist (2
Pe 2:1).
[Was there ever a time that Jesus did
not exist?
Jn 1:1 Was Jesus raised bodily?
John 2:19-21;
Mark 8:31;
9:31;
10:34, What do you claim to have answered "no" to?, Do you reject the
biblical concept of the flesh (a predestination to do evil which is inherited)?
...]
"I worship Jesus as Almighty God in the flesh (incarnation)..."
Your eyes are
not too pure to look upon evil but Jesus' eyes are (Hab
1:13). Which sin would or could have tripped up
your Jesus?
Provide one Bible verse
to support your claim.
See:
Hab 1:13 J. Vernon McGee
"I affirm His Deity..."
A deity ruled
by the flesh (Jn
1:1,
Heb 4:15).
See:
Godrulz
"You are a dope."
You are wolf in sheep's clothing (Mt
7:15,
Tit 1:16).
You can fall to
temptation. Jesus cannot (1 Co 10:12, Jn
1:1). Jesus' temptation proved not that he
can sin but that he cannot sin (Heb 4:15).
He is perfect, holy and righteous (Ps 50:2,
Isa 6:3, Jas 1:13).
Satan tempted Jesus with:
the lust of the flesh
- passions, the body
- the carnal nature that works upon the body
- sins that deal with doing something in the
physical realm
the lust of the eyes
- possessions, the soul
- sins not with doing but with having
- the desire to acquire or to have
- this deals not with the body but with the
soul
the pride of life
- pride, the spirit
- this deals not with doing or having but
with being, the spirit 1 Jn 2:16, Phil
3:18-19, Rogers
See:
How to Handle Temptations
by Adrian Rogers
"Jesus is, was, will always be sinless."
SD: “ Could he
[jesus] have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did not…”
link
"We are in agreement."
We are not in agreement (Eph
4:14,
Ga 5:9).
"You are making a straw man caricature that both of us reject..."
Name said strawman.
I am a Christian (Jn
1:1,
Heb 4:15).
You are a modalist (2
Pe 2:1).
My Jesus is: perfect, holy and righteous (Jn
1:1,
Heb 4:15,
Ps 50:2,
Isa 6:3,
Jas 1:13).
Your "Jesus" is a freak (2
Pe 2:1).
"...([B]ut you try to make it look like I agree with it)."
Do you mean I quote you exactly?
See:
Godrulz
[How do I twist the
gospel?] Are men lost?
Ps 51:5
"Yes, men are lost because they are godless rebels, condemned sinners. They are guilty because they sin, not because their parents had sex."
Strawman
How does he save men?
Lk 19:10.
Explain the difference between righteousness
imputed and righteousness infused?
See:
Why does Christ's righteousness need to be
imputed to us?
Justification by Faith
"You are spouting one theory, a Calvinistic one."
Strawman
I reject John Calvin.
"...Don't assume that other Christians do not have other nuanced views that are actually more biblical."
How perfect, righteous
and holy is Jesus?
Ps 50:2,
Isa 6:3,
Jas 1:13
100%? 99%? 98%?
"People are saved by grace through faith in
Christ, not by theological perfection or
mental assent to your pet theories."
Ad hominem
Can an imperfect, unrighteous and unholy
"Jesus" save?
Jn 1:1,
Heb 4:15
"One can trust Christ alone for salvation..."
Ad hominem
If Jesus doesn't have a sin nature (Ps
51:5), why
would he sin?
Jn 1:1,
Heb 4:15
See:
Godrulz
"What is a straw man is claiming that I am saying Jesus was a sinner. I am explicitly saying he was not a sinner."
SD: “ Could he [jesus]
have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
"It is not a straw man to say that your views are Calvinistic..."
Strawman
I reject John Calvin.
See:
Godrulz
"You can reject Calvin as a person, but some of your views are still Calvinistic."
Strawman
I'm not interested in the Greek pagan
teachings of John Calvin. I'm interested in
the what God has revealed about himself (Jn
1:1,
Heb 4:15).
"In both our views, Jesus is sinless...You are trying to say I believe Jesus is a sinner. I deny this..."
SD: “ Could he [jesus]
have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
"...[S]o you are a liar."
Ad hominem
If Jesus doesn't have a sin nature, why
would he sin?
Jn 1:1,
Heb 4:15
See:
Godrulz
"You reject Calvin as Saviour, but you hold to some of his teachings..."
Strawman
I reject John Calvin.
"You are guilty as charged..."
Non causae ut causae (claiming victory
despite defeat)
"...[B]ut I am innocent of your false accusation..."
Non causae ut causae (claiming victory
despite defeat)
"...[T]hat I am saying Jesus is imperfect or a sinner."
SD: “ Could he [jesus] have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
"...[H]eresy hunter..."
[The Problem with Pride: taken from a
message given by Adrian Rogers]
"“Pride goeth before destruction, and an
haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs
16:18
Five Ways Pride Ruins and Devastates Lives
Pride defies God. Pride is a fist in the
face of God. It was pride that turned
Lucifer, the son of the morning, into Satan,
the father of the night. In the Garden of
Eden, when Satan came to tempt Eve, the
temptation was to be as God. It was the same
thing that had caused Satan to fall.
Pride defiles man. We were born with pride,
and it defiles the very heart of man. (Mark
7:21-23) If you see an apple with a worm
hole in it, the worm did not bore into the
apple; he bored out of it. The egg was laid
in the blossom, and the worm was hatched
inside the apple and made its way out. Pride
is on the inside and makes its way out of
our hearts. We need to be born again,
because when we were born the first time, we
were born with a nature inclined to pride.
Pride divides society. There has never been
an argument, a war, a divorce, nor a church
split that pride was not the major factor.
Proverbs 13:10 states, “Only by pride cometh
contention . . ." and Proverbs 28:25 says,
“He that is of a proud heart stirreth up
strife . . ." If God resists the proud, then
the proud man is out of fellowship with God.
Anyone who is out of fellowship with God is
going to be out of fellowship with other
people.
Pride dishonors life. The proud person wants
praise, honor, and esteem, but through pride
he gets dishonor. Proverbs 11:2 says, “When
pride cometh, then cometh shame . . ."
Proverbs 18:12 also states, “Before
destruction the heart of man is haughty, and
before honour is humility." As Jesus taught
us, the way up is down and the way down is
up. The proud person always ends up not with
admiration, but contempt.
Pride destroys souls. Pride ultimately
destroys all that it controls. It is the
road to ruin. Proverbs 15:25 says, “The Lord
will destroy the house of the proud . . ."
Also, Proverbs 16:18-19 says, “Pride goeth
before destruction, and an haughty spirit
before a fall." The seeds of destruction are
in pride. I’m telling you, pride is the road
to ruin; it is filling hell.
God Gives Grace to the Humble..." Full text:
The Problem with Pride: taken from a message
given by Adrian Rogers
[Essential Christian doctrine ""]
"Cmon, someone tune this chick in..."
You can be contaminated.
Jesus cannot be contaminated.
And upon
whatsoever any of them, when they are dead,
doth fall, it shall be unclean; whether it
be any vessel of wood, or raiment, or skin,
or sack, whatsoever vessel it be, wherein
any work is done, it must be put into water,
and it shall be unclean until the even; so
it shall be cleansed.
And every earthen vessel, whereinto any of
them falleth, whatsoever is in it shall be
unclean; and ye shall break it.
Of all meat which may be eaten, that on
which such water cometh shall be unclean:
and all drink that may be drunk in every
such vessel shall be unclean.
And every thing whereupon any part of their
carcase falleth shall be unclean; whether it
be oven, or ranges for pots, they shall be
broken down: for they are unclean, and shall
be unclean unto you.
Nevertheless a fountain or pit, wherein
there is plenty of water, shall be clean:
but that which toucheth their carcase shall
be unclean [Lev.
11:32–36].
"...Now we go into the kitchen. It must have
been a commonplace experience for some
rodent to get into the kitchen of that day
and fall into one of the vessels and die.
Any earthen vessel had to be broken and the
water or grain or whatever was in it had to
be thrown out. A bronze vessel was to be
scoured clean. You see, God taught His
people cleanliness in the preparation of
food. And he was teaching them a lesson in
holiness. Every vessel was holy to God and
it was all to remain clean. In the Mosaic
system, cleanliness was next to godliness
and this applied to even the smallest detail
in domestic situations. God guarded His
people against contamination and pollution.
If the dead carcass fell into a fountain or
a lake, the water was not contaminated. It
was too big and too fresh.
Isn’t it wonderful that the Lord Jesus
Christ is the fountain of living water? He
is not contaminated by contact with the
sinner or the sick, the leper or the woman
with an issue of blood. Jesus said: “But
whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall
give him shall never thirst; but the water
that I shall give him shall be in him a well
of water springing up into everlasting life”
(John
4:14). Also
“In the last day, that great day of the
feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any
man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
He that believeth on me, as the scripture
hath said, out of his belly shall flow
rivers of living water” (John
7:37–38)."
McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 6: Thru the Bible
commentary: The Law (Leviticus 1-14)
(electronic ed.) (132–133). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.
"Talk to the hand..."
Too bad you reject essential Christian doctrine.
"Too bad."
~ Seth Brundle, The Fly
[What Doctrines Are Essential? - Part 3 by John MacArthur 1 Corinthians 3:11;
John 3:18; 2 John 11; John 5:22] "...[A]ll the fundamental doctrines related to
the incarnation — the Virgin Birth of Christ, His deity, His humanity, and His
sinlessness — are part and parcel of who He is. To deny any of those doctrines
is to attack Christ Himself..." Full text:What
Doctrines Are Essential? - Part 3
See:
Godrulz
["...[A]ll the fundamental doctrines related to the
incarnation — the Virgin Birth of Christ, His deity, His humanity, and His
sinlessness — are part and parcel of who He is.] "
I afffirm all this...She thinks I am denying the sinlessness of Christ despite
clear statements that I do not...Jesus did not sin, does not sin, will never
sin..."
SD: “ Could he [jesus] have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did not…”
link "...John M. is railing against JWs, Muslims,
Mormons, not Christians..."
You are not a Christian (Jn 1:1, Heb 4:15). You are a modalist (2 Pe 2:1).
"SD wrongly assumes fundamentalist Calvinism..."
I reject Calvinism.
"...[S]he breaks TOL rules of harassment, spam, etc."
Ad hominem
Eph 5:11
See:
Godrulz
How can Jesus judge the human race if he is
not perfect, holy and righteous?
Ps 50:2,
Isa 6:3,
Jas 1:13,
Re 19-20.
He is coming to save those who believe
and judge those who do not believe.
"...I...have always refuted...modalism...regardless of form."
SD: “ Could he [jesus]
have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
"SD has a bee in bonnet, bat in belfry..."
Ad hominem
Your flesh may fail. Your heart may fail.
God does not change. He does not fail.
Jn 1:1,
Ps 73:26,
Mal 3:6
See:
Godrulz
"Jesus is perfect, holy, righteous, we
agree. He is sinless. Can you
read or are you just a jerk?"
SD: “ Could he [jesus]
have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
"I am trinitarian refute modalism..."
Men born in Adam sin.
Jesus does not (Jn
1:1,
Heb 4:15).
[A Matter of Life and Death taken from a
message given by Adrian Rogers] "...David
the psalmist said, “In sin did my mother
conceive me.” That doesn't mean that she was
a sinner when she conceived him. It means
that he was conceived with a sinful nature.
And that nature was a permanent part of him.
We also are born into sin and, therefore,
death..." Full text:
A Matter of Life and Death
See:
Godrulz
"Jesus is sinless..."
SD: “ Could he [jesus]
have sinned?
Godrulz: “I believe He could have, but did
not…”
link
"What on earth does impeccability have to do with modalism?"
Strawman
Jesus gave his life a ransom for others not
himself.
"Mk
10:45 Son
of Man. See note on 2:10. did not come to be
served. Jesus was the supreme example of
servant leadership (cf.
John 13:13–15).
The King of Kings, and Lord of Lords (Rev.
19:16)
relinquished His privileges (Phil.
2:5–8) and
gave His life as a selfless sacrifice in
serving others. ransom for many. See note on
Matt. 20:28.
"Ransom" refers to the price paid to free a
slave or a prisoner; "for" means "in place
of." Christ’s substitutionary death on
behalf of those who would put their faith in
Him is the most glorious, blessed truth in
all of Scripture (cf.
Rom. 8:1–3;
1 Cor. 6:20;
Gal. 3:13;
4:5;
Eph. 1:7;
Titus 2:14;
1 Pet. 1:18,
19).
The ransom was not paid to Satan, as some
erroneous theories of the atonement teach.
Satan is presented in Scripture as a foe to
be defeated, not a ruler to be placated. The
ransom price was paid to God to satisfy His
justice and holy wrath against sin. In
paying it, Christ "bore our sins in His own
body on the [cross]" (1
Pet. 2:24).
See notes on
2 Cor. 5:21...
Mt 20:28
to give His life a ransom for many. The word
translated "for" means "in the place of,"
underscoring the substitutionary nature of
Christ’s sacrifice. A "ransom" is a price
paid to redeem a slave or a prisoner.
Redemption does not involve a price paid to
Satan. Rather, the ransom is offered to
God—to satisfy His justice and wrath against
sin. The price paid was Christ’s own life—as
a blood atonement (cf.
Lev. 17:11;
Heb. 9:22).
This, then, is the meaning of the cross:
Christ subjected Himself to the divine
punishment against sin on our behalf (cf.
Is. 53:4,
5;
see note on
2 Cor. 5:21).
Suffering the brunt of divine wrath in the
place of sinners was the "cup" He spoke of
having to drink, and the baptism He was
preparing to undergo (v. 22)...
...2
Co 5:21
Here Paul summarized the heart of the
gospel, resolving the mystery and paradox of
vv. 18–20, and explaining how sinners can be
reconciled to God through Jesus Christ.
These 15 Gr. words express the doctrines of
imputation and substitution like no other
single verse. who knew no sin. Jesus Christ,
the sinless Son of God (see notes on
Gal. 4:4,
5;
cf.
Luke 23:4,
14,
22,
47;
John 8:46;
Heb. 4:15;
7:26;
1 Pet. 1:19;
2:22–24;
3:18;
Rev. 5:2–10).
sin for us. God the Father, using the
principle of imputation (see note on v. 19),
treated Christ as if He were a sinner though
He was not, and had Him die as a substitute
to pay the penalty for the sins of those who
believe in Him (cf.
Is. 53:4–6;
Gal. 3:10–13;
1 Pet. 2:24).
On the cross, He did not become a sinner (as
some suggest), but remained as holy as ever.
He was treated as if He were guilty of all
the sins ever committed by all who would
ever believe, though He committed none. The
wrath of God was exhausted on Him and the
just requirement of God’s law met for those
for whom He died. the righteousness of God.
Another reference to justification and
imputation. The righteousness that is
credited to the believer’s account is the
righteousness of Jesus Christ, God’s Son
(see notes on
Rom. 1:17;
3:21–24;
Phil. 3:9).
As Christ was not a sinner, but was treated
as if He were, so believers who have not yet
been made righteous (until glorification)
are treated as if they were righteous. He
bore their sins so that they could bear His
righteousness. God treated Him as if He
committed believers’ sins, and treats
believers as if they did only the righteous
deeds of the sinless Son of God." The
MacArthur Study Bible. 1997 (J. MacArthur,
Jr., Ed.) (electronic ed.) (2
Co 5:21).
Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
See:
Godrulz
Response to comment [from a Christian]:
[Stan J53] "How
about actually answering my question SD?"
"Stan, is that you?" ~ Randy Marsh, South Park
Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Godrulz] "You actually push a completely different approach. To twist would be to say, include works as evidence or necessary for justification. You claim you will be saved if you maintain good relations."
We are saved by grace
and kept by grace. Perhaps RandomThoughts
could explain his not-so-amazing grace?
See:
Unsinkable Saints Genesis 6:5-14
Adrian Rogers
"We are saved by grace, but you are forgetting the faith condition (so you confuse grounds and conditions of salvation)..."
See:
Once Saved Always Saved
In his very nature, Jesus is God (Jn
1:1,
Heb 4:15).
"[Phil
2:57:] "...Jesus did not cease being God while
on earth. Rather, in addition to being God, He also became man. His incarnation
was not the subtraction of deity, but the addition of humanity. Several things
in this text support this position. First, it does not say Christ gave up or
emptied Himself of His deity, but merely of His rights as deity, assuming the
"form of a servant" (v.7) is a servant by nature, so the "form of God" (v.6) is
God by nature. third, this very passage declares that every knee will one day
confess Jesus is "Lord," a citation from
Isaiah 45:23 that refers
to Yahweh, a name used exclusively of God (pg. 481, Geisler, Howe)."
Also see:
Mind of Christ Humble J. Vernon McGee
"If you think grace is irresistible, you are Calvinistic..."
I reject Calvinism. Men resist God every day (Jer
17:9).
