There will be no debates in the afterlife

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Can you say "arrogant" boys and girls?"

Boys were made boys and girls were made girls (Deut 22:5, Mt 19:4).

Response to comment [from a Jew]: "It's a couch-potato's dreamland."

We will be very busy (Rev. 7:15). Pay attention to the memos.

See:


When Messiah Came

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Everybody will always be kind and loving to everybody else?"

Everyone will know everyone else. We don't really know one another too well now.

"Nobody will ever make gratuitous snarky remarks?"

Why? Did you repent today? Lev. 26:40–42; Num. 5:6, 7; Deut. 4:29–31; Deut. 5:29; Deut. 30:1–10; 2 Kin. 22:19; 1 Chr. 28:9; Job 22:23–29; Job 23:6; Job 33:26–28; Psa. 6:8, 9; Psa. 9:10; Psa. 22:26; Psa. 24:3–6; Psa. 32:5, 6; Psa. 34:18; Psa. 51:17; Psa. 70:4; Psa. 90:14, 15; Psa. 145:18, 19; Psa. 147:3; Isa. 27:5; Ezek. 18:21–23 Ezek. 33:10–16. Matt. 5:4; Matt. 6:14, 15; Matt. 7:7 [Luke 11:9–13.] Matt. 7:8–11; Matt. 11:28–30; Matt. 12:20, 31 Luke 12:10. Matt. 18:11 Luke 19:10. Luke 4:18; Luke 6:37; Luke 15:4–7 [Matt. 18:12–14.] Luke 15:8–32; Luke 18:10–14; John 6:37; John 10:9; Acts 13:38, 39; Rom. 10:9–13; 1 John 1:9. Swanson, James ; Nave, Orville: New Nave's. Oak Harbor : Logos Research Systems, 1994

"...[T]he way you keep bringing this up in places it is not even close to relevant is disturbing and downright creepy."

Pervert-pot calling the kettle black. 1 Co 6:9.

Response to comment [from other]: "While some who undergo NDE's (near death experiences) report having a sense of 'knowing all' (being one with the universe)...."

"It just so happens that your friend here is only mostly dead." ~ Miracle Max, The Princess Bride

There is no "near death". There is alive and dead (
2 Co 5:8).

See:

What is pantheism? What religions today are considered to be pantheistic?

What is panentheism? What religions today are considered to be panentheistic?

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Let me get this straight, you are the one with the rather disturbing obsession on my life and I'm the pervert and not you, right?"

Blaming others (1 Ki 18:17,18; Ge 3:9-13; Ex 32:1-4,21-24; 1 Sa 15:3,9,13-15) or God (Ge 3:12; Jer 7:10) is a characteristic of the wicked --so is a dressing like a woman when you are a man (Deut 22:5, Mt 19:4). You cannot cease from sin (2 Pe 2:14) and you call me obsessed?

"At least I admit to my perversion, even though I don't consider myself to be a pervert."

Then what does: "At least I admit to my perversion..." mean? Ps 10:11; 50:21; 94:7.

Perhaps it's time to get an avatar that suits you (
Isa 3:9).

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "I do that and I'm still not attractive. I never smile or laugh and have only cold silence or, if pressed, cruel words for others, and respond to a hand offered in fellowship with overt hostility."

Are you a pro-abort?

"I've never attempted to stop one and never will; what conclusion do you draw from this?"

That's consistent. You are indifferent.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [All things possible with God.] "All things? Are you sure? Let me know when you've found a square and a circle which measure exactly the same in area."

You asked questions like: "Can God make a rock so big he can't life it?" in Sunday School, didn't you?

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "How would you know what that Eve looked like. Or even what I look like?"

Eve was a looker, as they say. We have had six thousand years of the Second Law of Thermodynamics working against us. You would horrify her.

Response to comment [from other]: "Beauty of soul..."

This soul is wicked and has evil desires (Prov. 21:10). He delights in abominations (Is. 66:3). He will be punished if he does not repent (Rom. 2:9).

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [Freelight quote: "Your attitude is 'hideous'."] "Totally agree. Excellent observation."

The God hater loves you Freeli'.

No, my attitude is loving. You are apathetic toward P66. You don't care if he destroys his life. Pr 27:5.

See:


Our Rainbow

Response to comment [from other]: " ...[D]orks r us."

You're upset because you still can't find God in that rock or lightbulb, aren't you?

"[W]e are to assume that your avatar suits you? [A] buck teeth dork with glasses. wonderful."

I'm a precious yellow thing in the sight of the Lord (Jdj 5:31; Mt 13:43).

Response to comment [from other]: "Oh great. A link to your own website no less..."

You'd better report me.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "...[T]hat's some real love right there."

Truth is hate to those who hate the truth (Enyart).

"And I can thus never be accused of hypocrisy!"

That sounds about right (Re 22:11).

"If I'm equally nasty to everybody, nobody can claim that I play favorites!"

Are you equally nasty to everybody? Do you care about preborn children?

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "There is no debate necessary, when all Truth is revealed."

Do you believe in universalism, Soft Serve?

[Aimiel quote: "...The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...love[s] all of us equally, no matter what religion we're in..."]

Does it matter what people believe? Is Christianity one of many ways to heaven? Jn 14:6.

See:


Is universalism / universal salvation Biblical?

Do you care about preborn children?

[No]

No argument here (Jer 17:9).

Response to comment [from other]: "A living soul is an expression and reflection of its divine source ('God')..."

Ge 1:26,27; 1Co 11:7. As a reminder Freeli' is number one at [URL="http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55479"]Satan Inc (TOL Heretics List )[/URL] in the Fruitloops® category. :dizzy:

"...[T]herefore it has the inherent potential of truth, goodness and beauty."

What God created was very good (Ge 1:31). After the Fall everything changed (Ge 3:6,11,12; Ro 5:12,15,19). Read the morning newspaper. Dirty Yaks want to :CRASH: saw your head off (Ge 16:12). P66-- a man--will put on a dress today (Deut 22:5, Mt 19:4).. :vomit: Planned Non-Parenthood's doors will be open (Pr 8:36). Anyone can look around and see that things are not as they should be. It all started with "Did God really say that?" Gen. 3:1.

"...All that is of God and his divine nature is inherently good, divinely real, eternally lasting."

The soul who sins shall die (Eze 18:20). Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "The really funny thing is you don't even see your own bigotry here..."

Sodomites make me vomit. :vomit: I was made that way. Why are you so intolerant?

"And if it makes you feel better to spout scripture at me then be my guest..."

Do you spout Judy Garland songs, Hedshaker? Ps 143:8.

"...I assure you it means nothing to me."

We know.

Response to comment [from other]: "'gotquestions.org'? That's like getting the 'news' from the tabloid press."

What truth claim do you dispute?

"It's a site that gives 'pat' answers to questions without any sort of depth whatsoever..."

Ad hominem. What truth claim do you dispute?

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "[M]ost of your responses are not Christian."

Have you met a Christian? Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), unclean (Ro 1:24, 26, 27) and it will be punished (Lev. 20:13).

"And so who is going to impose the death penalty on people engaging in homosexual intercourse [sic (literally)]..."

Do you think the world is better off without God's rule and reign? Mt 5:18.

Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil [Eccl. 8:11]. "What a picture of that which is happening in our contemporary society! When judgment is not executed, men do more and more evil work, because evil is in the hearts of men. Even men who call themselves Christian continue in sin, saying, “Look, I’ve been in sin for five years, and God has done nothing about it!” Well, that already reveals His judgment upon you. He has done nothing about it because He is way down the road waiting for you. In fact, He can wait until eternity—you can’t. “… Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation” (2 Cor. 6:2). God grants you today so that you can turn to Him." McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 3:127

I give out God's word. What you do with it is your business.

Payday. Someday.

[Do you think the world is better off without God's rule and reign? Mt 5:18.] "Yes."

An honest God-hater. 1 Co 6:9.

[Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil [Eccl. 8:11].] "Oh, so you don't know when the punishment for homosexuals will get off the ground."

I give out God's word. What you do with it is your business.

Payday. Someday.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Not wanting to live under a theocracy or under (assuming it is correct) divine supervision does not make me a "God-hater"..."

A dictator is coming (Re 19:21). He'll be your savior (2 Tim. 1:10) or he'll be your judge (Jn 5:22, 30)..

"You can build on him (1 Cor. 10:4) or stumble on him (1 Pet. 2:8). He'll be a stepping stone (Ps 18:2) or stumbling stone (1 Cor 1:23, Luke 20:18)." ~ Adrian Rogers

[Payday. Someday.] "These are some of the most lacklustre and ineffectual warnings I have ever seen. "I'll harm you.... at some point!"

Pr 1:27; 10:24.

Response to comment [from other]: "Cholerics heretic list is naturally biased by his own 'standards' or 'orthodoxy'..."

Ad hominem. Truth is truth independent from Choleric. Where do you get your truth? In the rock? In the light?... Hab 2:19, Ro 1:23-25; Ac 17:29, Isa 44:20.

Choleric does not need a "saved by works" list (except for Patricius79 who does not even admit he's a Roman Catholic). All religions are work-based. Christianity is faith-based. Plans and programs do not save. The person--Jesus--saves (
Acts 4:10, 12).

"...besides the fact that he only has a slight clue of what kind of theist I am..."

You lie (Ro 1:25). That's all we need to know (Jos 23:7; 1Jn 5:21).

"...plus that I've recently been affiliating as an eclectic Hindu..."

You've got a new squirrely religion every week. New morality is old sin (Jer 18:15). Love the brain.

"What would you do with a brain if you had one?" ~ Dorothy, Wizard of Oz Ro 1:21-23


"...My background and studies in Christian theology and my liberal views in that arena have somehow qualified me as a 'heretic'..."

You aren't qualified to tie your shoes (1 Pe 4:3).

"Also,....my affiliation as a 'universalist' is not necessarily a 'Christian Universalist' per se, but a 'universalist' in a syncretic/eclectic sense, recognizing the universal truths, values and meanings in all traditions."

Are you a pot head?

"...[T]here of course may be 'distortions' of perception and ignorance clouding man's knowledge."

People do not need more knowledge. They need a savior (2 Tim. 1:10).

Someone said: “If we needed more money, God would have sent us a banker, If we needed more knowledge, God would have sent us a lecturer. If we needed more things, God would have sent us a salesman, If we needed more pleasure, God would have sent us an entertainer. If we needed more laughs, God would have sent a comedian, If we needed more peace, God would have sent a diplomat. If we needed more culture, God would have sent an artist. But our greatest need is forgiveness, So God sent us a Savior.”

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "I'll gladly take judgment. Here you have someone who, with full understanding of what is at stake, deliberately and willfully chooses judgment over salvation.
What conclusions do you draw about such a person?"

You are a high-handed sinner. http://vananne.com/armorofthelord/#My_God_would_never_send_me_to_hell.

Response to comment [from a "Christian]: "...[M]ost Christians, especially the likes of serpentdove, are totally convinced that a large part of the world prefers judgment to salvation."

Who would prefer judgment? Mt 25:41.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "A bald-faced lie. Patricius makes no secret of his Catholicism."

If that were true he would identify himself as the Roman Catholic he is. Roman Catholics are taught from a young age to be filled with pride for their church. Patricius79 is smart enough to know that he looses credibility when he identifies himself as a Roman Catholic. You do not counterfeit dirt. You counterfeit something of value--Christianity (Ga 5:9).

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "...[S]pending eternity in heaven with people like serpentdove would be eternally annoying..."

And I thought we were two peas in a pod.

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;
Which will not hearken to the voice of charmers, charming never so wisely.
Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O Lord [Ps. 58:3–6].
"David prays for six destructions to come upon his enemies in this psalm: (1) “Break out the great teeth of the young lions.” We have already found that the enemy is like a lion. There are those who say that a Christian cannot pray this way. I have prayed that the Lord would absolutely deal with Satan. He is like a roaring lion, and I hope God breaks his teeth. I don’t consider that unchristian at all. David is speaking of his enemies, and he is under law; so he is asking for justice."
McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 2:774

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "You are in error. I always expect the worst possible outcome in all things, and it is extremely rare that I don't get exactly what I expect."

The rest does not apply to you but J. Vernon McGee's comment: "He'll miss you, but He'll get along without you," applies to you and to anyone else who rejects God. You will get what you want.

"The greatest sin is sinning against love." ~ J. Vernon McGee

You're just a drop of morning dew (
Ho 13:3).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "[H]ow do you reconcile your oral tradition that we are not saved by works in any sense with your belief that we are saved by the preaching of the Gospel by men through grace?"

Argument By Repetition (Argument Ad Nauseam or Ad infinitum) Answered here, here and here.

Response to comment [from other]: "Lying is second nature for SD..."

Proof please.

[No argument here (Jer 17:9).] "Here you go again, posting irrelevant random Bible verses in response to a post you didn't really read."

I'm agreeing with you. As afraid as I was , I thought I'd take a peek into the state of your heart. I asked if you cared about the fate of preborn children. You said no.

When you say: ""If I'm equally nasty to everybody, nobody can claim that I play favorites!"--I suppose that's accurate.

You are an intelligent person (
Pr 28:26)--but so what? The world does not need smarter people. The world needs better people (2 Ch 19:3; Ezr 7:10; Ps 10:17).

Response to comment [from other]: "Most people seem to have you sussed by now which is good...."

Let the reader decide. Eccl 10:2.

"Trolls aren't generally renowned for having the sharpest brains and your pitiful lies..."

Proof please. I'm sure you have more interesting things to talk about than my signature.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "[Heart] I've been telling you repeatedly that I don't have one. Are you finally convinced that I really am as hardcore as I claim to be?"

Could be? I don't know you. It may also be that you have mental issues.

"I ain't all that; there's lots of folks smarter than me. Of course, to claim superior intelligence to mine isn't much of a boast."

True (1 Co 1:27). If we won you for the kingdom, I think you'd be useful.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "[W]ho needs a heart, when you have an axe."

Noguru is the new Gerald.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "...[B]latant bigotry makes me vomit..."

The wrong things make you vomit (Isa 5:20).

Trivia:

Did you know that porn "stars" often have to take vomit breaks?
Ro 1:26. Why do think that is? Ro 1:28.

Response to comment [from other]: "Your sig is still there isn't it?"

Didn't you say that you hate trolls?

"Most people seem to have you sussed by now which is good...."

Let the reader decide. Eccl 10:2.

Trolls aren't generally renowned for having the sharpest brains and your pitiful lies..."

Proof please. I'm sure you have more interesting things to talk about than my signature.

"[gotquestions.org] ...[A] site that gives 'pat' answers..."

What truth claim do you dispute?

"You don't even know what an ad hominem is..."

Ad hominem.

"I dispute the claim that Universalism is un or extra biblical..."

You'd be wrong (Jn 14:6).

"gotquestions.org] If this site..."

Ad hominem. What other truth claim to dispute?

[Let the reader decide.] "What do you think they've already done?...All 'sides' see through your transparency."

If everyone agrees with you, what more is there to discuss?

"Your sig is part of the proof..."

Let the reader decide.

"You've willfully misrepresented people both in your sig..."

Let the reader decide.

"It's funny how SD cries 'ad hominem' when there isn't even one..."

Ad hominem. Any truth claims to dispute?

[Proof please. ]Your sig is still there isn't it?

I believe the reader should investigate.

"...[U]nsupported lies and fabrications which you've never provided any proof for, and which everyone else knows to be a total crock?"

If everyone agrees with you, what more is there to discuss?

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "[Vomit breaks for porn "stars".] It's probably from excessive drug use. Many of them take drugs to make them less emotionally sensitive so they can better do their jobs.

Even the drugs do not anesthetize them to humiliation of what they are doing (Ro 1:26-28, Isa 5:20).

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "I used to share a house with a porn star. I also know a few others personally. None of them ever mentioned having to take vomit breaks. Oddly enough, the ones I know don't do drugs and love their jobs."

Sure they do (Ro 1:26-28, Isa 5:20).

[Vomit breaks for porn "stars".] "Pretty good chance I know more about this than you."

Do you try to convince porn "stars" to perform debased acts? Isa 5:20.

A few housekeeping items:

If someone like Perverphone666 is bothering you, "just ring: three-six-two-four-three-six..."


"...A homosexual might say that he practices sexual perversion because God made him that way. A pedophile could say the same thing. He practices sexual perversion because God also made him that way. Once you choose to sin, that is the conception of a child, the Bible teaches, called sin. " When lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death (Jms. 1:15, NASB)."

Your are free to choose to sin but you are not free to choose the consequences. After your choice, your choice chooses you. First there is a courtship, then consent, then conception: "When lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin." You can't see sin when it is just a baby. Then, it seems so good, so natural and so right. When sin is full grown, then you can see it. "The soul that sinneth, it shall die (Exe 18:20, KJV)." "The wages of sin is death (Ro 6:23, KJV)."

First sin fascinates, then it assassinates. First it thrills, then it kills. When sin is full-grown, it brings forth death (Jms 1:15, ASV). The child is sin. The grandchild of sin is death. First there is lust, then sin, then death. You will not beat the game. You will always be a loser. "Be sure your sin will find you out (Nu 32:23, NASB)." (Rogers)..." Full text:
Armor of the Lord

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [Jn 14:6] "...[Y]ou haven't a clue what Christian Universalism teaches ..."

Ad hominem.

See:


Is universalism / universal salvation Biblical?

They [gotquestions.org] don't understand it either.

Ad hominem. You claim to be a Christian. Do you believe Jesus is one of many ways to heaven? Jn 14:6.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [Do you try to convince porn "stars" to perform debased acts? Isa 5:20.] "No, what they do with their lives is of no concern to me as long as they are not harming anyone."

They harm: themselves, their victims, families, and their nation (Jn 10:10, Ps 67:4).

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Perhaps Snakebird has never had anyone in her life interested in, well you know, intimacy. So she is living vicariously through you."

You call what P66 does "intimacy"? Eph 5:12. Lust is not love.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Once again, Serpent:duh: demonstrates that she doesn't know what an ad hominem is..."

Ad hominem.

[Christian Universalism]

"There are, frankly, millions of people who feel religious, millions of people who associate with Christianity, millions of people who would say to Jesus, "Lord, Lord." And have no hope of entering heaven, millions of people who would proclaim their identification with the Lord Jesus Christ who will spend eternity in hell, suffering everlasting punishment..." Full text: Two Paths, One Way
Matthew 7:13-27 by John MacArthur http://www.gty.org/Resources/Sermons/80-312

You are one of them.

"Oh, well if John MacArthur said it, then I take back my opinion..."

Ad hominem.

John MacArthur has a biblical worldview. You do not. Jesus is not one of many ways to heaven. He is the one and only way to heaven (
Jn 14:6).

"Is the unsupported assertion on your list of fallacies, down there in your sig?"

"I didn't mean ta bug ya." ~ Bono

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [Elaborate] "I'd really like an answer to this one."

Sure you would. Are you still trying to convince us that porn "stars" love their job? This is evident by the numerous vomit breaks that they must take to gather themselves during their humiliation. If you really wanted an answer, you'd have taken note of this post. My guess is, you'll put on a dress today. You'll tippy toe through today as you tippy toed through yesterday. God does business with those who mean business. Payday. Someday.

"There does come a time when God will give up on you. God says, that's what you want, I'll let you have it. I will let your sin have you (
Ro 1:28). God says that His spirit will not always strive with man's (Gen 6:3). There can be enough rebellion, retribution and even regret when men should have repented.

There is a difference between mere regret and true repentance. Repentance always causes a change in direction. One walks this way, is stopped in his tracks, and then turns and walks the other way. It is not just crying over the fact that you are in a mess. Repentance takes a new direction. It results in a change of attitude toward God and sin. It affects behavior. Repentance is agreeing with God about your sin. It admits to God that you have violated His holy standard (Hocking).

People usually only confess to what they know that others already know. God knows all (
Mk 4:22). Don't play games with Him. You may as well admit your sin to Him because He is aware of it anyway. He still offers His love. We are all by nature children of wrath (Eph 2:3) but God is rich in mercy (Eph 2:4). He has enough mercy for all of us. Although our sin may be great, His mercy is greater. No sin is so big that the blood of Christ cannot cover it completely and forever..." Full text: Armor of the Lord

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "What of those who admit to sin but reject the offer of mercy?"

Most are too good to be saved (Pr 28:13, 1 Jn 1:9). You at least admit you are a sinner.

Mercy is judgment delayed.


"For a person who refuses to grant mercy to his fellow human beings, it would be the pinnacle of hypocrisy to accept mercy from God."

Jeffrey Dahmer said the same thing. He never understood why he was so evil but in the end, he trusted Jesus.

You said heaven would be hell because you would be have to be around people like me. That may be true. But you aren't so lovely either. Jesus came to save sinners (
Re 3:17).

"For her next trick, SD will demonstrate that (a) heaven is a real place and (b) that it is a worthwhile place to go to. "

"Satan is brilliantly stupid. He is hideously beautiful." ~ Adrian Rogers

Response to comment [from other]: "You are a clueless moron. You are an obnoxious lying little troll. You have the brains of a celery stick."

AB, Dont' be like that.

"...[A]s Sam pointed out...No 'truth' to actually dispute, just a feeble claim, ironically much like your sig..."

Is that the Sam in the sig? You're precious.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Vomit breaks for porn "stars"] "Well said! If you had restrained the sarcasm I'd give you an A+ for this post."

I could do an extra paper on vomit composition to make up the points.

God did a work in the life of Jeffrey Dahmer. Do you believe you are more wicked than him?

See:


"I just don't believe that Jeffrey Dahmer could go to heaven and Mother Theresa could go to hell."

Response to comment [from other]: [(One way) "You'd be wrong (Jn 14:6).] "No I wouldn't, as Sam pointed out."

Sam' is not a Christian. He/she/it aka PlastikBuddah aka Gamara aka Taikoo aka ThermalCry, etc. does not have a biblical worldview.

See:


Is universalism / universal salvation Biblical?

With all of the different religions, how can I know which one is correct?

What is a Biblical Worldview?

You do not go to heaven or hell based on picking the right religion. You go to have or hell based on a right relationship with Jesus (Jn 14:6). Your sin will be on you or it will be on Jesus. Do your antichrist "friends" tell you that? Jn 3:18, Ga 3:22, Ex 34:7; Da 9:9; Mic 7:18; Mr 2:7.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [Dahmer saved] "And you know this for an irrefutable fact, do you? You need to stop presenting your opinions, beliefs and hopes as facts..."

Have you watched the interview?

[Do you believe you are more wicked than him?] "According to your Holy Writ, all human beings are equally wicked."

Jn 19:11

[You aren't so lovely either] "I've never claimed to be."

Neither of us will be accused of being lovely.

You said: "For a person who refuses to grant mercy to his fellow human beings, it would be the pinnacle of hypocrisy to accept mercy from God."

Why would anyone expect you to show mercy to another?
1 Jn 4:19.

"I give up: why would anyone expect me to show mercy to another? This is a riddle, yes?"

No riddle. You are not a Christian. You are a reprobate. Why would anyone expect you to show mercy to another?

[Did you watch the Dahmer interview?] "I have, and I was profoundly unmoved."

Why would you be moved? 1 Co 2:14.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "So we're agreed that my sin is "ineradicable", that I am completely beyond redemption, that God has finally thrown up His hands in resignation and left me to the fate I have chosen?"

I don't know. How did that turtle, Master Oogway, put it? "...Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why it is called the present." ~ Alice Morse Earle.

You said: "For a person who refuses to grant mercy to his fellow human beings, it would be the pinnacle of hypocrisy to accept mercy from God."

I accuse you of being many things--but a hypocrite is not one of them. You act like an unregenerate person. We would not expect you to act otherwise. God is merciful (
Ex 34:6,7; Ps 62:12; Ne 9:17; Jn 4:2,10,11; 2 Co 1:3. Did you think you were God?

You didn't answer my question: why are you so convinced of Dahmer's sincerity?

I can't answer that question to your satisfaction. We hear differently. We come from different worlds.

See:

1 Co 2:14 by J. Vernon McGee

[An excerpt: The Silver Chair by C.S Lewis]

"...Then came the Witch's voice, cooing softly like the voice of a wood-pigeon from the high elms in an old garden at three o'clock in the middle of a sleepy, summer afternoon; and it said:

"What is this sun that you all speak of? Do you mean anything by the word?"

"Yes, we jolly well do," said Scrubb.

"Can you tell me what it's like?" asked the Witch (thrum, thrum, thrum, went the strings).

"Please it your Grace," said the Prince, very coldly and politely. "You see that lamp. It is round and yellow and gives light to the whole room; and hangeth moreover from the roof. Now that thing which we call the sun is like the lamp, only far greater and brighter. It giveth light to the whole Overworld and hangeth in the sky."

"Hangeth from what, my lord?" asked the Witch; and then, while they were all still thinking how to answer her, she added, with another of her soft, silver laughs: "You see? When you try to think out clearly what this sun must be, you cannot tell me. You can only tell me it is like the lamp. Your sun is a dream; and there is nothing in that dream that was not copied from the lamp. The lamp is the real thing; the sun is but a tale, a children's story."

"Yes, I see now," said Jill in a heavy, hopeless tone. "It must be so." And while she said this, it seemed to her to be very good sense.

Slowly and gravely the Witch repeated, "There is no sun." And they all said nothing. She repeated, in a softer and deeper voice. "There is no sun." After a pause, and after a struggle in their minds, all four of them said together. "You are right. There is no sun." It was such a relief to give in and say it.

"There never was a sun," said the Witch..." Full text:
The Silver Chair by C.S Lewis Ch 12, The Queen of the Underland

[Vomit breaks for porn "stars"]: "Show me the vomiting."

I heard this on Christian radio, Bob Dutko interviewing Tim Chester author of Captured By A Better Vision: Living Porn-Free (UK title) or Closing the Window: Steps to Living Porn Free (US title). 21 Feb 11. You find this hard to believe? You are still trying to convince us that the lives of porn actors are good?

[Porn movies] "As I said, one of my old roommates did porn. I have several friends in the business and I even considered it myself."

Larry Flynt is your friend and Jesus is your enemy. Isa 5:20, Jn 10:10.

See:


AIDS activists sue Larry Flynt over sans-condom porn stars

"That in no sense backs up any of the claims you have made..."

Your lifestyle leads to death (Jn 10:10):

"Gay activists acknowledge severe health risks of homosexual lifestyle:

[A]ctivists admit what we have been saying for years, that "gay/bisexual men have a life expectancy 20 years less than the average man" in Canada. Even the life expectancy of lesbians, though not as severely impacted, "is still lower than the life expectancy of the general population."

Suicide rates, they admit, are anywhere from double to 13.9 times higher than the general population. By their own estimates, homosexuals comprise 30% of all suicides in Canada.

They admit that smoking rates among gays are up to three times higher, alcohol use up to seven times higher, and illicit drug use up to 19 times higher than the general population.

They themselves openly acknowledge that 76.1% of all AIDS cases since statistics were first kept occur in gay and bisexual men, and further acknowledge that the infection rate is up to 26 times higher than among the population as a whole.

When it comes to cancer of various types, they candidly admit that "gay men, lesbians and bisexual men and women are at higher risk for some cancers as a result of their sexual orientation (emphasis added)." Smoking and alcohol use puts them at elevated risk of lung and liver cancer, while their sexual activity increases their risk of anal cancer and cancers of the head, throat and neck through frequent exposure to HPV, the human papilloma virus..." Full text:
Myths, Facts, and Consequences of the Homosexual Lifestyle

"Idle threats with your imaginary sky daddy do nothing but give me more to laugh at you about..."

"Cosmological argument:

Everything that had a beginning has a cause.
The universe had a beginning.
Therefore, the universe had a cause.

Design argument:

Every design has a designer.
The universe—and life—has a highly complex design.
Therefore, there is a Great Designer.

Moral argument:

Moral laws require a lawgiver
Absolute moral laws exist.
Therefore, there is an absolute Moral Lawgiver..." Evidence of God by Lee Strobel

See:

Atheism and Agnosticism

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "What prevents you from saying "You are an unregenerate person"?

You are.

Neither you nor I deserve God's mercy but he offers it anyway. It's part of his character (
Ex 34:6,7; Ps 62:12; Ne 9:17; Jn 4:2,10,11; 2 Co 1:3).

You said: "For a person who refuses to grant mercy to his fellow human beings, it would be the pinnacle of hypocrisy to accept mercy from God."

You recognize that you do not deserve God's mercy (
Ro 3:23). You also recognize his mercy as a gift. You identified mercy as something to accept [Eph 2:8, Col 2:6]). You even admit to presently living in the mud. The question is--do you want to fly?

"Dear God, make me a bird. So I could fly far. Far far away from here." ~ Jenny Curran

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [Unregenerate] "Thank you for conceding."

Do you believe that God has already given you over to a depraved mind? Ro 1:24. You did not answer if you believe you are as bad or worse than Jeffrey Dahmer.

You said: "For a person who refuses to grant mercy to his fellow human beings, it would be the pinnacle of hypocrisy to accept mercy from God." You cannot give what you do not possess yourself (
Ps. 51:1). You have an unclaimed gift.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [Vomit breaks for porn "stars": I heard this on Christian radio, Bob Dutko interviewing Tim Chester author of Captured By A Better Vision: Living Porn-Free (UK title) or Closing the Window: Steps to Living Porn Free (US title). 21 Feb 11. You find this hard to believe? You are still trying to convince us that the lives of porn actors are good?] "I ask you for proof, I ask you to show me the vomiting and this is the best you can do? Something you heard on the radio once? Epic fail."

You'd like a vomit sample from the humiliated women? I do not have a sample. Read Chester's book on the subject.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [End] "It's more useful to know when it ends..."

Tick...tick...tick...Mt 24:36, 2 Co 6:2, Zeph 2:1.

See:


What does it mean that Jesus will return like a thief in the night?

How are we to live our lives in light of Christ's return? How should the Second Coming of Jesus Christ affect our daily lives?

[yawn]

See:

Indifference

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Lust is due to hormones. Love is the result of companionship."

Lust is Satan's counterfeit of love.

"Perhaps Snakebird has never had anyone in her life interested in, well you know, intimacy..."

"You are like summer vacation--no class." ~ Fat Albert

I can help you with your sloppy-agape.

See:

The Rape of Solomon's Song Pt 1

"Freud says I'm sexually deprived. Well, you know what Freud? I think you're sexually deprived. Now what?" ~ Rubadubdubber

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "Lust is...what shows that we are after all animals..."

Speak for yourself.

Response to comment [from an atheist]: [Vomit sample]: "[Vomit sample] That's not what I asked for. Learn to read..."

I don't have the goods, sorry. You admitted to knowing more about this subject (Pr 26:11). Will you put on a dress today? (Deut 22:5, Mt 19:4).

"I want proof..."

You want proof from your stalker?

Originally Posted by Persephone66 View Post

It's harassment and stalking at this point.

"...[Y]ou have provided nothing to back up any of you claims..."

You've finished the book? Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Concerns?

[Dialogue with your "stalker"] "You have a point there."

You don't have to be hysterical.

"You are nothing more than an obnoxious troll and a pathetic lying sack of trash..."

Don't be like that.

"Best if we both did something more productive..."

"Are you going to analyze that vomit content? What (besides seeing you in a dress ) would make a fine young lady projectile vomit on the job? Ro 1:26."

"...for you I suggest diving into oncoming traffic."

Speak with Bybee (Hos 3:1). She'll make you happy (Pr 27:5).

Response to comment [from an atheist]: "[Beyond hope] "If I believed such a thing was possible, it would certainly jibe with my self-observation."

Could be. Or, maybe there is a battle to come ( Ge 6:3, 32:22-32).

"If anything, I am much worse: consider that if I had the means, over a sixth of the human population would meet with a sudden, painful, messy demise."

You have a sense of justice (Re 14:20). What do you think of God's holiness? Ps 99:9

[Mercy] "If you want that gift, then by all means take it. I have no use for it."

Mercy is available now but it will not be available later (Mt 24:30, Re 1:7).

"..The punishment of the wicked dead in hell is described throughout Scripture as “eternal fire” (
Matthew 25:41), “unquenchable fire” (Matthew 3:12), “shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2), a place where “the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44-49), a place of “torment” and “fire” (Luke 16:23-24), “everlasting destruction” (2 Thessalonians 1:9), a place where “the smoke of torment rises forever and ever” (Revelation 14:10-11), and a “lake of burning sulfur” where the wicked are “tormented day and night forever and ever” (Revelation 20:10).

The punishment of the wicked in hell is as never ending as the bliss of the righteous in heaven. Jesus Himself indicates that punishment in hell is just as everlasting as life in heaven (
Matthew 25:46). The wicked are forever subject to the fury and the wrath of God. Those in hell will acknowledge the perfect justice of God (Psalm 76:10). Those who are in hell will know that their punishment is just and that they alone are to blame (Deuteronomy 32:3-5). Yes, hell is real. Yes, hell is a place of torment and punishment that lasts forever and ever, with no end. Praise God that, through Jesus, we can escape this eternal fate (John 3:16, 18, 36)..." Full text: Is hell real? Is hell eternal?

"[Christians] It's not just one; there are many, and not just TOLers."

We're aliens and strangers (1 Pe 2:11). You love this world? 1 Jn 2:15. Life as we know it on planet earth is coming to an end when Jesus returns literally and bodily (MacArthur, Mt 24:30, Re 1:7).

"Being cold, cruel and generally misanthropic makes life much simpler. Besides, there isn't room in heaven for the mean and the snarky, and mean and snarky is me at my most basic..."

Heaven made room for the "Sons of Thunder" who were meaner and snarkier than you (Mk 9:38-40, Lk 9:51-56).

"Joining your team would mean becoming the diametric opposite of what I am..."

You admitted that you aren't so lovely (Ro 3:12).

"...so why change into something I wouldn't recognize, much less care to keep company with? "

Love (Ro 5:8).

[You have a sense of justice.] "Is it justice to wish for the destruction of millions for the simple fact that they exist?"

You want them destroyed for a reason. They do something that you find offensive. Do you question your sense of justice? Jer 9:24.

[Hell] "I have no problem with this. Why does it bother you so much that I am eagerly seeking out this fate?"

You'd like to join the 1/6th that you don't like? Nu 16:21,26; 2 Co 6:17,18.

[Love] "Is for pansies, weaklings and fools."

You hate false religion. Why's that? Deut 23:5.

[You want them destroyed for a reason." "What is that reason? What do they do that I find offensive?"

That is for you to answer. The reason you find them offensive may be different than my own. For all I know, you love when they saw Christian's heads off. Perhaps when they do the same to puppies you take offense?

"Is it justice to douse a hornet nest with gasoline and light it?"

I don't think so as long as it's far from the house (Mt 24:22).

[You'd like to join the 1/6th that you don't like? Nu 16:21,26; 2 Co 6:17,18.] "And what conclusions do you draw from this? Am I being inconsistent?"

You did not call for the remaining 5/6ths to be destroyed--and you said you have no heart. Josh 24:15, Mt 12:30.

[You hate false religion. Why's that? Deut 23:5.] "Again, am I being inconsistent?"

I don't know (Re 3:16). Some people hate lies (Ga 5:9). Others love them (Jer 5:31).

"You weren't paying attention, because I gave my reason in a previous post: because they exist."

The 5/6ths exist as well. Why should they live? Specifics, Bob.

"[Bible] I read and write fiction; fiction is composed of lies. Conclusions?"

Better be sure about that or you'll end up in hell. Keep doing what you're doing (Re 22:11)--head down that road (Jn 3:19), pass Calvary (Ro 5:8), turn left (Eccl 10:2) and you're there (Rogers).

See:


Inspired Scripture

[Hell] "That's what this is all about: hell is where I'm actively trying to go, and your job is to convince me otherwise..."

That is the ministry of the Holy Spirit (Ge 6:3, Jn 8:24).

See:


Holy Spirit

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Does that mean you'll stop posting in this thread now?"

"It places the lotion in the basket." ~ Buffalo Bill

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "If only..."

There will be no debates in the afterlife