Chrysostom’s 2013 annual awards

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "[T]his can't be good."

If you disagree with Chrysostom, you are a hater.

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Tactics of the Left

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "And the winner of the I hate homosexuals more than you do award for 2013 is aCultureWarrior."

 

"Truth is hate to those who hate the truth." ~ Bob Enyart 1 Co 6:9

Homosexuality is: forbidden (
Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned [1 Cor. 2:14].

"The natural man cannot receive the things of God. Why not? Because they are foolishness to him. If you are not a Christian, my friend, what I am saying seems foolish to you. If it doesn’t, there is something wrong with you or there is something wrong with me—one of us is wrong. God says the natural man finds the preaching of the Cross of Christ for salvation foolish. It simply does not make sense to him.

“Neither can he know them.” When I was a student in college, I had the high–minded notion that anything that any man wrote I could understand. Well, I have found that isn’t true. Certainly I cannot understand the Word of God until the Spirit of God opens my heart and mind to understand. It is spiritually discerned. Only the Spirit of God can take the things of Christ and show them unto us. The Lord Jesus said that: “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you” (
John 16:13–14). My friend, unless the Spirit of God shows you the things of Christ, this Epistle to the Corinthians will mean very little to you." McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 44: Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (1 Corinthians) (electronic ed.) (38). Nashville: Thomas Nelson. 

 

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "...free donuts on Mondays."

 

CaTHOlics go to church for the donuts.

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "...I'd love it if you and them would accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior..."

 

...And for the Turning God's Grace into Lasciviousness award of 2013--Chrystotom! Jud 1:4, KJV

Come on up Chrystotom grace-perverter (
Gal. 1:6–8), bound by traditions (Mt 15:9) and deceitful in all your ways (Eph. 4:14).

 

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Conjunctions

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [Truth is hate to those who hate the truth." ~ Bob Enyart 1 Co 2:14] "Sure. But hate can also just be hate to those who own a dictionary."

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "..."[L]asciviousness" is a lust/lewdness word tied to playfulness..."

"...Lasciviousness is a very important word. I suppose the best synonym is wantonness because wantonness has in it the thought of lawlessness and arrogance—doing as you please even if you offend the sensibilities of others. Jude says that the ungodly turn the grace of our God into lasciviousness—into immorality. The apostle Paul warned the Galatian believers about the danger of turning the grace of God into license—permitting them to live any way they pleased. “For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another” (Gal. 5:13)." McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 57: Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (2 and 3 John/Jude) (electronic ed.) (82). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "There's a fine line between truth-smacking and just being mean for its own sake..."

Chrysostom opposes--not homosexuality --but those who condemn homosexuality. Pr 27:5

Talk about this fine line.

See:


New transgender rules at BPD

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Chrys, I think this is a great thread!"

Of course you do (Hos 3:1, Eph 4:31).

He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.

In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not [Ps. 15:2–4].

"“In whose eyes a vile person is contemned”—that is, despised. In our contemporary culture the opposite is often true; the vile person is honored, and the godly man is despised.

“He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not” means that he will go on record for the truth and will not change his story to protect himself." McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 17: Thru the Bible commentary: Poetry (Psalms 1-41) (electronic ed.) (87–88). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "...Sorry to interrupt your continuing post...any idea when you'll be finished?"

Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Chrysostom] "...Chrys has not been a sexual pervert here- and the better you get me understanding the definition the further you are getting from the horrible seduction and degrading that has gone on and does still that is so awful. How can we call Chrys immoral?"

He perverts and inverts the word of God. God says homosexuality is evil (Lev 18:22, 20:13, 1 Ki 14:24, Ro 1:24, 26, 27 ). Chrysostom says men who call Sodomites evil are evil (Isa 5:20, Pr 16:25).

If you disagree with Chrysostom, you are a hater.

"ἀσέλγεια, ας f: behavior completely lacking in moral restraint, usually with the implication of sexual licentiousness—‘licentious behavior, extreme immorality.’ μὴ μετανοησάντων ἐπὶ τῇ ἀκαθαρσίᾳ καὶ πορνείᾳ καὶ ἀσελγείᾳ ᾗ ἔπραξαν ‘they have not repented of the filthy things they have done, their immorality and licentious deeds’
2 Cor 12:21. In some languages the equivalent of ‘licentious behavior’ would be ‘to live like a dog’ or ‘to act like a goat’ or ‘to be a rooster,’ in each instance pertaining to promiscuous sexual behavior." Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Vol. 1: Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.) (770). New York: United Bible Societies.

"
Jude 4 certain men … crept in unnoticed. These were infiltrating, false teachers pretending to be true, who on the surface looked like the real thing, but whose intentions were to lead God’s people astray (cf. Matt. 7:15; Acts 20:29; Gal. 2:4,5; 1 Tim. 4:1–3; 2 Pet. 2:1,20; 1 John 2:18–23). These apostates were Satan’s counterfeits, most likely posing as itinerant teachers (cf. 2 Cor. 11:13–15; 2 Pet. 2:1–3; 2 John 7–11). Their stealth made them dangerous. They were characterized by 3 features: 1) they were ungodly; 2) they perverted grace; and 3) they denied Christ. long ago … marked out. Apostasy and apostates in general were written about and condemned many centuries before, such as illustrated in vv. 5–7 and spoken of as Enoch did in vv. 14–16. Cf. Is. 8:19–21; 47:9–15; Hos. 9:9; Zeph. 3:1–8. Their doom was “pre-written” in Scripture as a warning to all who would come later. Jesus had warned about them in Matt. 7:15–20 (cf. Acts 20:29). The most recent warning had been 2 Pet. 2:3,17; 3:7. this condemnation. This refers to the judgment spoken of by others “long ago.” Jude’s present exposé of apostates placed them in the path of the very judgment of God, written of previously. ungodly men. Lit. “impious” or “without worship.” Their lack of reverence for God was demonstrated by the fact that they infiltrated the church of God to corrupt it and gain riches from its people. Cf. vv. 15,16,18,19. lewdness. Lit. “unrestrained vice” or “gross immorality,” which describes the shameless lifestyle of one who irreverently flaunts God’s grace by indulging in unchecked and open immorality (cf. Rom. 6:15). deny … Lord … Lord Jesus Christ. See note on 2 Pet. 2:1. Two Gr. words for Lord are used here. The apostates disowned Christ as sovereign Lord (despotēs) and disdained any recognition of Christ as honorable Lord (kurios) by their wicked behavior. The better NT mss. omit “God” in the text (see marginal note), placing the emphasis clearly on one person, the Lord Jesus Christ, and emphasizing that apostates deny Him. See note on 2 Pet. 2:1. Cf. Matt. 10:33; 2 Tim. 2:12; Titus 1:16; 1 John 2:22,23. It is always true of apostates, false teachers, and false religions that they pervert what Scripture declares is true about the Lord Jesus Christ." The MacArthur Study Bible. 1997 (J. MacArthur, Jr., Ed.) (electronic ed.) (Jud 4). Nashville, TN: Word Pub. "

"I think you are a fine person, Chrys, but uhm..."

Don't compliment an antichrist.

"
Jude 3 contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. The gospel of Jesus Christ does not change. Since He is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb. 13:8), so His gospel remains eternally the same. And it is worth fighting for, since through it alone we find eternal life." Stanley, C. F. (2005). The Charles F. Stanley life principles Bible: New King James Version (Jud 3). Nashville, TN: Nelson Bibles.

"New morality is just old sin." ~ J. Vernon McGee

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]:

resurrected View Post
...Town was lying when he wrote in his OP...
Town Heretic View Post
[Town Quixote's] I hope it will also be more of the sort of place where people can have conversation, not debate...

If you challenge his small observations, you are "disruptive" (example 1 , example 2 ).

Town Heretic View Post
Anyway, I wanted a place for people to stop in and talk about anything they think the rest of us might find interesting...

As long as they agree with you. Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Response to comment [from a Christian]: 

Resurrected: "Rusha - do you believe that Jesus died for your sins?"

Rusha: "Koban [Resurrected]...do you know Jesus?"

Resurrected: "I do[.] Rusha - do you believe that Jesus died for your sins?"

"Seems obvious that Rusha rejects Christ.  Good thing she has so many "friends" to hold her hand on her way to hell..."

With friends like that who needs enemies? Eph 6:12

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "With friends like that who needs enemies?"

You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14). With friends like that who needs enemies? Eph 6:12

"I'm sure the Pharisees said something similar."

Resurrected and I were discussing make-believers and those who defend them. You would be included in this motley crue (Isa 8:20, 2 Ti 3:13).

[Isa 8:20] "I defend the faith..."

Lie of the day (Ingraham)." Eph 4:14

Response to comment [from a Christian]: [TH Small Observation Thread Pt. 2 "Town Quixotes"]

He has locked his small observations thread Pt. 2. He will begin reporting you for being "disruptive" when you challenge him and Knight will believe him. I recommend that you stay out of his small observation threads. Eph 4:14

"He's a compulsive, silly little would-be bully, isn't he?"

They've decided that the Town Heretic should have a place all of his own where he cannot be challenged (2 Pe 2:1). Fair enough.

"That would be laughable if it weren't so grossly underinformed [sic] on every level."

Don't you have another thread to close? Eph 4:14, Jn 10:10, Eccl 10:2

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [To a Christian] " ...[T]hanks for obsessing. Did you make a hundred posts yesterday?..."

You're projecting again.

Did you work on your scrapbook yesterday?

"I don't think I've even managed fifty in any day since I've been here."

You keep a lovely scrapbook. I bet the women's club will send you an invite soon. Re 12:10

Town Heretic View Post
"Originally Posted by serpentdove: I don't have a factual answer for you so I'm going to hypocritically engage in the sort of ad hom I routinely accuse other people of."
Town Heretic View Post
Fixed that for you.

How do you manage to get others banned for responding to your gossip posts while you misquote others?

Membership has its privileges?  


"I love Jesus."

Lie of the day (Ingraham). Eph 4:14

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [To a Christian] "...[Y]ou are not a Christian..."

Crouching Tiger Hidden Pagan Gal. 2:3-4

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: How do you manage to get others banned for responding to your gossip posts while you misquote others?] "I don't."

See:

The Town Heretic Misquotes Me

Will this highlight show up in your Small Observations Pt. Deux thread?
Eph 4:14

[How do you manage to get others banned for responding to your gossip posts while you misquote others? Eph 4:14] "Way to dodge your own hypocrisy..."

"Being on the Left means never having to say you're sorry." ~ Dennis Prager Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Response to comment [from other]: "You OTOH talk about how you'll enjoy people burning in hell..."

We would like you to get saved. You thought we wanted to live with God-haters in heaven? Wouldn't that make heaven hell?

Jesus loves you (
Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16).  Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9).  Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30).  Believe (Mk 9:23).

"...[C]alled bybee a 'senile old hag'..."

"2 Ti 3:6 gullible women. Weak in virtue and the knowledge of the truth, and weighed down with emotional and spiritual guilt over their sins, these women were easy prey for the deceitful false teachers. See notes on 1 Tim. 2:13,14; 5:11,12." The MacArthur Study Bible. 1997 (J. MacArthur, Jr., Ed.) (electronic ed.) (2 Ti 3:6). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

 

Response to comment [from other]: "If you're calling or inferring that bybee 'gullible'..."

 

Raisy cakes taste great (Hos 3:1, Pr 20:17 KJV, Ga 5:9).

 

[2 Ti 3 from What do you think of Paula Deen being fired from the Food Network thread] "Great scripture sd!  Remind you of anybody?"

 

Sadly, yes.

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]: [Re: Breathe] "...[Y]ou're easy prey for the deceitful false teachers."

 

If you were not strangers of the world, the hounds would not bark at you. Heb 11:13

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Why is there always such a vicious circle going on?"

 



...Because instant e-mail notification is inop.

 

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rainee View Post
Nobody can stay this angry...
resurrected View Post
Who's angry?



It's been testy around here since instant e-mail notification became inop.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "Time to get on with the awards."

Probably the same as 2012.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "The multi-personality that is "Koban, Sod, Resurrected" has been masquerading as an evangelist......C. S. Lewis calls Satan by the title of "The Bent One", meaning that he is a destroyer. He never creates nor does he ever build up, he merely destroys. Something terrible has crept into Koban's psyche. He has become one who tears others down."

You're projecting again (Ro 1:29 NIV, 1 Ti 3:11 NASB, 5:13 ESV, Tit 2:3 NASB).

"Eph 4:31, 32 These verses summarize the changes in the life of a believer mentioned in vv. 17–30. “Bitterness” reflects a smoldering resentment. “Wrath” has to do with rage, the passion of a moment. “Anger” is a more internal, deep hostility. “Clamor” is the outcry of strife out of control. “Evil speaking” is slander. “Malice” is the general Gr. term for evil, the root of all vices." The MacArthur Study Bible. 1997 (J. MacArthur, Jr., Ed.) (electronic ed.) (Eph 4:31). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

"You are a nasty piece of work."

bybee View Post
[Manners ] I take this very seriously.

"Try to be civil in the face of incivility. This is a test." Lev. 19:15-16, Rom. 1:29-30

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you [Eph. 4:31–32].

"These last two verses are in sharp contrast one with the other. There is an additional listing of that which grieves the Holy Spirit in verse 31—these are sins of the emotional nature. Instead, the emotional responses, which God wants us to have, are given in verse 32.

"Bitterness" is an irritable state of mind which produces harsh and hard opinions of others. Someone once came up to me and told me what he thought of another Christian. A third Christian who was present later said, "Don’t put too much stress on what he said, Dr. McGee, because he is bitter." A great many people are speaking out of bitterness, and when they do, it hurts. This grieves the Holy Spirit.

"Wrath, and anger" are outbursts of passion. Bishop Moule makes this distinction between them, "Wrath denotes rather the acute passion, and the other the chronic."

"Clamour" means the bold assertion of supposed rights and grievances. There are people in the church who feel that the pastor isn’t paying attention to them if he doesn’t shake their hand. Sometimes they even become bitter and clamorous over a supposed slight. Who can say that the pastor must run around and shake hands with everyone simply to keep people happy? It is this kind of attitude that grieves the Holy Spirit.

"Evil speaking" is blasphemy, but it also means all kinds of slander; and "malice," as we have noted before, is congealed hatred.

"Be put away from you." All these sins are to be put away or, literally, taken away. In the Greek it is an aorist imperative, requiring a one–time decisive act if the Holy Spirit is not to be grieved. We must make a decision to put these sins away.

Now comes a marked contrast. "Be (become) ye" denotes the radical change that should take place in the believer so that there will be no vacuum in his life.

"Kind one to another" means Christian courtesy. "Tenderhearted" is a more intense word than kind. It means to be full of deep and mellow affection. Some believers are like that—they are wonderful friends. When they see you, they put their arms around you. I went to college and then to seminary with a fellow and then helped him in meetings for years. He is retired now. When we saw each other in Florida some time back, we just flung our arms around each other. We were tenderhearted toward one another—we love each other in the Lord.

"Forgiving one another" is a reflexive form of phrase. It is literally, "forgiving one another yourselves." It means to give and take in a relation to the faults of one another. We are to forgive rather than magnify the faults of others.

"Even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you." All of this is to be done on a twofold basis. First, this conduct will not grieve the Holy Spirit. Second, the basis of forgiveness is not legal, but gracious. This is not a command under law but is on the basis of the grace of God exhibited in our forgiveness because Christ died for us. We are to forgive because we have been forgiven. It is not that we forgive in order to get forgiveness. Note the contrast: Christ was stating the legal grounds for forgiveness in the Sermon on the Mount when He said, "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses" (
Matt. 6:14–15). Here in Ephesians we are told to forgive on the basis of the grace of God which He exhibited in our forgiveness for Christ’s sake, because Christ died for us. This is quite wonderful!" McGee, J. V. (1991). Vol. 47: Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (Ephesians) (electronic ed.) (133–134). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: [These last two verses are in sharp contrast one with the other.] In sharp contrast to his [Resurrected aka SOD's] posts? Yes.... yes they are."

He's banned and you're still not happy?

We just want you to be happy CAtholic.
Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10, Jud 11

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [Resurrected banned and pagans still not happy ] "I'm not. I'd be happy if he'd conduct himself in a way that advanced our cause..."

We have different causes. Eph 5:11, Eph 6:12

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "Christians can have differences without resorting to the sort of embarrassing business you conduct..."

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

"[Y]ou mean spirited and nasty dissembler, you should repent...If there's an award for snakes you're a shoe-in."



As a reminder, instant e-mail notification is inop.

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "[E]verything I know about Alabama I learned from South Park."

Welcome back.

A few housekeeping items:



I do not put
complete posts on TOL.

Alabama Man. *warning language*

Response to comment [from other]: "I never bother wasting my time by clicking on your links."

That's a shame. Isa 2:19-21

Bat (Rémi GAILLARD)

And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth [Isa. 2:19].

"The Book of Revelation repeats what man will do in that day of judgment: “And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb” (
Rev. 6:15–16).

All you see on television today has to do with the political economy, government, commerce, art, the pomp and pride of man—and the religion of man. The day is coming when all of man’s pride is going to be brought low, and the Lord Jesus Christ will be exalted on earth. Today He is not being given His proper place in government, in society, in business, in art, or in the pomp and ceremony of the world—or even in the religion of the world, He is left out today. When He comes again, men are going to run for the caves of the earth. I don’t know whether men were ever cavemen or not, but a day is coming in the future when men are going back to the caves." McGee, J. V. (1997). Thru the Bible commentary (electronic ed.) (
Is 2:19). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [To a Christian] "...A know-it-all-self-inflated-brown-nosed-moribund-knob-head!"

Ps 15:3, Ro 1:30

Simpsons Queen of the Harpies

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "[Complete posts] "Wouldn't bother me if she wasn't deceitful in her editing."

Proof please.

I quote you exactly. You misquote me.

Response to comment [from other]: [I quote you exactly.] "No you don't."

All quotes on my site are exact (Eph 4:14).

See:


SerpentDove

"You misquote people all the time..."

Proof please.
Unlike antichrists (
Eph 4:14); when I make a claim, I can back it up with proof.

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "...[M]y argument is you have to vote republican to get the right judges on the court that will not find laws restricting abortion unconstitutional..."

See:

Open Letter, with Love and Respect, to Dr. James Dobson

Response to comment [from other]:  [All quotes on my site are exact. ] "No they aren't, they're pruned like a hedge in the middle of summer..."

I'm not here to teach you English 101.

Response to comment [from other]:  [All quotes on my site are exact. ] "...[Y]ou compile misquotes from TOL and cobble together your own crazy crazy-lady versions of the threads here..."

All quotes on my site are exact. Facts are stubborn things.

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: [All quotes on my site are exact. ] "Exactly misleading and truncated."

You're projecting again. I quote you exactly. You misquote me. Eph 4:14

A few housekeeping items:



If you find an error on my site, please let me know.

Response to comment [from other]: "And the award for TOL Crazy Lady goes to serpentdove."

Ad hominem 2 Ti 1:7

See:


Tactics of the Left

Response to comment [from an agnostic]: [ Ad hominem 2 Ti 1:7 See: Tactics of the Left ] "You're insufferable! Do you ever write a post without that?"

Does the Leftist ever offer an argument without an ad hominem attack?

"You do realise [sic] not every insult is an ad hominem, or... do [sic] you?"

When a member has committed an ad hominem fallacy, I point it out for the reader (Eph 4:14).

"P.s. You're an idiot."

Ad hominem

See:


Tactics of the Left

[2 Ti 1:7] "...What has that got to do with you being crazy? You can't say that God has given everyone a sound mind."

Strawman

I have not made the argument that Leftists have a sound mind.
Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

Response to comment [from a Catholic]:

rainee View Post
Aacckkkkk aaaaacccckkkkkk aaccckkk ack ack ack
chrysostom View Post
I feel your pain

Me too (Good Food, Less Nagging, Who is Neg Repping Who and Why?, etc.).

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "[Projecting again. I quote him exactly. He misquotes me (Eph 4:14). ] "No, you didn't..."

Let the reader decide. link

"You partially quoted me..."

Argument Ad Nauseam or Ad infinitum (Repetition)

I'm not here to teach you English 101.

[If you find an error on my site, please let me know.] "And you'll do absolutely nothing about it, apparently..."

You have not provided evidence for an error at my site (Eph 4:14).

 

"Chrys, you need an Inoperative Conscience award."

 

You're projecting again.

I quote you accurately.
You misquote me (Eph 4:14).

Chrysostom’s 2013 annual awards