How God Has Reconciled Us and the World Unto Himself

 

Response to comment [from a Jehovah's Witness]: "Those Christ died for are saved reconciled to God by CHRIST death...[/QUOTE]

His death never saved anybody. His rising did (1 Cor. 15:20, 23).

Elements in Christ’s propitiation (appeasing or conciliating): dying for man’s sins (1 Pet. 1:18, 19), satisfying God’s justice (Rom. 3:25, 26), reconciling God and man (2 Cor. 5:18, 19), offering believing sinner perfect righteousness (2 Cor. 5:20, 21). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 509). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.


[B] Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures [James 1:18].[/B]

"This is definitely a reference to the new birth. How does He beget us? “With the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.” Beget means “to bring forth.” There are those who say, “Well, if I am predestined to be lost, there is nothing I can do about it. And if I am to be saved, I’ll be saved.” There are two wills involved here—“Of his own will begat he us.” Again, you have in conception two coming together—there is no other way for a conception to take place. Therefore, when His will is joined with your will, you will be born again. Don’t tell me that you are not responsible. It is not His will that any should perish. You are begotten by the Word of God. When you are willing to come, when you believe the Word of God and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior, you will be born again. “Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever” (1 Pet. 1:23)." McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (James) (electronic ed., Vol. 53, pp. 36–37). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

 

"You are in unbelief also..."

 

Living, He loved me
Dying, He saved me
Buried, He carried my sins far away
Rising, He justified freely forever
One day He's coming
Oh glorious day, oh glorious day

1 Ti 2:8

 

"You in unbelief..."

 

One day the grave could conceal Him no longer
One day the stone rolled away from the door
Then He arose, over death He had conquered
Now He's ascended, my Lord evermore
Death could not hold Him, the grave could not keep Him
From rising again
Rising again

 

"You're [a] blasphemous antichrist..."

 

One day the trumpet will sound for His coming
One day the skies with His glories will shine
Wonderful day, my Beloved One, bringing
My Savior, Jesus, is mine
Glorious day, Oh, Glorious day


 

"Your blasphemous antichrist remark has been noted, that the death of Christ never saved anyone!"

 

"We are reconciled by his death but we are saved by his life." ~ Adrian Rogers Phil 3:10

See:

A Call to Conquest by Adrian Rogers

 

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "He's right.  No one was saved until Christ came out of the grave."

Darn tootin'.

As a reminder, Beloved57 is number 19 on
Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category.

 

"I didn't see his name there, but it should be there."

Sorry. You're right. He's on my list.

A few housekeeping items:

The original thread was deleted. Choleric had to create
a new thread.

 

Response to comment [from a Jehovah's Witness]: "I don't know about you and your false religion..."

 

You're projecting again (2 Pe 2:1).

False claim: Jesus is the archangel Michael.

See:

Jehovah's false witnesses

 

"..[A]nd [C]hrist..."

 

You're projecting again (2 Pe 2:1).

No cult, no 'ism will get by Jn 1:1. The deity of Jesus: in prophecy (Is. 9:6), acknowledged by Christ (Jn 20:28, 29), acclaimed by witnesses (Jn 1:1, 14, 18), affirmed by apostles (Rom. 9:5; Heb. 1:8). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 134). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.

 

"...but those my Christ died for..."

 

Your Jesus is not the Jesus of scripture (1 Jn 1:1). Your Jesus never existed.

Living, He loved me
Dying, He saved me
Buried, He carried my sins far away
Rising, He justified freely forever
One day He's coming
Oh glorious day, oh glorious day

 

How God Has Reconciled Us and the World Unto Himself