Speaking in tongues
Related:
Tongues
Bright Raven
[One encouraging another to speak in tongues]
I don't know? All I can see is that he is harassing me. That is his problem.
But it better stop.
Wherefore, brethren, covet to
prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
Let all things be done decently and in order [1 Cor.
14:39–40].
Here again we are encouraged to covet the best gift.
Evidently teaching the Word of God is the best one, and I thank God for that.
“Let all things be done decently and in order.” This
is a great principle. When I attended a tongues meeting in the South, I must
confess that I could see neither rhyme nor reason in the entire service. It was
all in confusion—not even an organized confusion, but hopeless confusion. Paul
says that this is not the way things of God should be carried on.
This brings us to the conclusion of this section. If
you have disagreed with me, I trust you will not fall out with me, but that you
will search this Scripture. If I am wrong, pray for me.
McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The
Epistles (1 Corinthians) (electronic ed., Vol. 44, p. 169). Nashville: Thomas
Nelson.
DAN P
...I did not say that BR was
not saved! And as a Pentecostal I also wonder
how these people were saved and their speaking in Tongues scared me as a kid
!
Men are saved the same way they've always been
saved--by grace through faith (Eph 2:8-9). He claims he is saved.
Tongues can be abused (1 Cor. 14:22–26).
If [someone] asked you how to be saved , what would you say?
Jesus saves (Isa
63:9;
Eph 5:23). Jesus
alone saves (Isa
45:21,22;
59:16;
Ac 4:12).
I can believe that many can not say How they were saved ?
Maybe they're not.
Maybe this will help you: #1, Were you baptized?
Yes
#2 , Did you have to repent?
Yes
#3, Do you have to speak in tongues?
No
#4 , The bible in 1 Cor says that the but the natural man receiveth the things
of the spirit of God, for it is foolishness to him and can not know it because
it is spiritually discerned.
God must turn your eyes and ears on.
So the question is how can a person not seeking God be saved?
No one seeks after God (Ro 3:11).
That is the question and if you say I am harassing stay out of my kitchen!
You're confusing me with BR.
So how can anyone be saved when he is dead is trespasses and in sin?
God draws men to himself (John 16:7–11).
Remember that one plants the seed and then one waters, but God gives the
increase so it it God that saved and not baptism, tongues or repentance.
Repentance is necessary for salvation. If you haven't repented,
you're not saved. The greasy gracer
of course won't acknowledge that repentance is necessity (Acts
2:37,
38,
26:20,
1 Cor. 2:13,
2 Cor. 5:17,
7:9,
10,
1 Thess. 1:9,
10).
Related:
Lordship
Reply to
Andie Johnson
Speaking in Tongues Exposed
Demonic (Lk 9:42).
Yes,
indeed. There is no justifying this abuse of God’s precious and purposeful gift.
ZacharyB
...Is it any wonder that your Laodicean churches teach cessationism?
Foolish virgins without oil (Mt
25:1-13).
musterion
Post audio online of it...
Originally Posted by andyc
These kind of idiotic posts are to be expected here.
He wants me to send him audio of tongues, good grief...
He wants into your prayer closet (Mt
6:6).
Maybe he works for the NSA.
musterion
Not seeing a straight answer there.
*Pearl swine moment*
Mt 7:6
musterion
Stop lying against God's Word.
Jn 8:37
"You are not brought upon this world to
get it."
~ David Lo Pan, Big Trouble in Little China
musterion
[To another member, speaks in tongues] ...You claimed a miraculous gift.
Prove you have it or shut up with your blaspheming.
You're projecting again (Eph 4:14, Lk 12:10).
Guess we're not moving on to words of wisdom and words of knowledge (1 Cor.
12:8–10).
musterion
This is about AndyC (and to a lesser degree Serpent, but that's a dead end
if there ever was one).
You're projecting again (Eph
4:14).
This is a dead end.
musterion
Who was the last unbeliever you spoke to in tongues, and did they understand
you?
What is your major malfunction, numbnuts?
~ Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, Full Metal Jacket
andyc
[More mocking] See post 88.
Does not compute
~ Lost in Space
musterion
[Tongues in church history]...You can claim none of that. No charismatic
today can. We're in a new dispensation.
Illogical! Illogical!
Mt 18:3 ~ Sarek, Star Trek
Grosnick Marowbe
I placed Danoh on "Ignore" a few days ago...
"You keep using that word.
I do not think it means, what you think it means."
Eph 4:14 ~ Inigo Montoya
musterion
There have been independent studies done over the years by linguists and
psychologists where recorded "tongues" analyzed to match any known human
dialect...
andyc
As a reminder SaulToPaul is number 57 on
Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus
is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category.
Danoh
...The brother would run circles around your entire circus of authors...
Guess we'll see at the Great White Throne (Re
20:11).
I doubt it. But perhaps you will be there...
You believe he is a saved individual. I do not (2 Pe 2:1).
"I prefer clarity to agreement." ~ Dennis Prager
Related:
Lordship
Let us know when that preference is actually your reality.
Was there a point in time when the Son was
separated from the Father or the Holy Spirit?
Be more specific.
Can the Father be separated from the Son? Can the Son be separated from the
Holy Spirit?
You are still being vague?
Is God's oneness divisible or indivisible?
Tambora
[I'm wrong to add SaulToPaul to Satan Inc.] She sure is.
Was there a point in time when the Son was
separated from the Father or the Holy Spirit?
SaulToPaul
Never been called a Trinity denier before.
You've been called
a modalist (Eph
4:14).
Ok, works salvationist.
Strawman (Eph 4:14, Eph 2:8).
See:
Works vs. Faith
heir
[Speaking in tongues] Prove it.
Do you forbid the speaking in tongues?
1 Co 14:39
andyc
[Speaking in tongues] You guys that hate it...
Why the anger toward you?
"It's a gift and a curse." ~ Mr. Monk, Monk
SaulToPaul
[Speaking in tongues, mockers mock]
I'm sure you did...
Do you forbid the speaking in tongues?
1 Co 14:39
As a reminder SaulToPaul is number 57 on
Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list)
in "The 'Jesus is not
God' people (Non-trinitarians) category.
Thanks, works
salvationist!
Strawman
Eph 4:14
Do you forbid the speaking in tongues?
1 Co 14:39
andyc
Your waiting to understand a tongue that no one
understands except God?
Second that chuckle.
heir
You don't speak in tongues. You fake it like the rest of
the wannabes. I used to be a fake just like you.
You used to fake speaking in tongues?
Pray tell, why?
musterion
We hate every false way. Ask us why.
Why are you a false convert?
Why
does Heir
fake speaking in tongues?
Related:
Lordship
heir
[Do you forbid the speaking in tongues?
1 Co 14:39] I was caught up in the same
emotional upheaval in the religious, denominational system courtesy of
the mystery of iniquity that andyc is a captive of today.
For
not forbidding the
speaking of tongues, you and your friends here sure
seem to forbid the speaking of tongues (1 Co 14:39). If it's demonic, then
why aren't you forbidding it?
SaulToPaul
... "Feelings.........nothing more than....feeelings."
For
not forbidding the
speaking of tongues you sure seem to forbid the speaking of tongues (1 Co 14:39).
As a reminder SaulToPaul is number 57 on
Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list)
in "The 'Jesus is not God' people
(Non-trinitarians) category.
What is your ratio of prophesying to tongue speaking?
I'll answer your question when you
answer mine (1,
2).
How often do you
get "a word of knowledge" in comparison to tongue talking?
I'll answer your question when you
answer mine (1,
2).
SaulToPaul
.."Feelings.........nothing more than....feeelings."
SaulToPaul
...[W]onder why andy's spirit doesn't just pray in English?
You feel nothing for God? You feel nothing from God? 2 Co 13:5
andyc
Ok, for a third time, lets educate you ignoramuses...
Don't bother. If they make it in the rapture (and
that's a big if),
they're going to
be ashamed.
1 Cor. 4:12
andyc
[To another member] You can't see that character grows through victories
won in faith, because your doctrine removes the promises that requires
faith to stand in the face of impossible circumstances in the natural...
They don't overcome (Job 1:6–22).
They don't have the spirit (foolish virgins) and then they lecture you.
TOL won't miss many members after the rapture.
Related:
Lordship
Job? That's a new one.
Tests of faith (Gen. 12:1, 2, 2 Cor. 11:21–33). You won't find the
hypergracer
discussing: God's
holiness, man's need for repentance, sanctification, etc. They're all say no
play (Jud 4, 10, 12).
Related:
Lordship
Danoh
100% Cessationist...
Joe 2:28
God sends the last outpouring of Holy Spirit (Jas 5:7).
Related:
Birth Pangs
lifeisgood
[Pentecost, Rapture] What does this have to do with the OP?
Nick M
...They should hear you in their own tongue.
That's diverse tongues.
I attended a bible study this morning and 3 individuals spoke in tongues.
I've been with these people for quite a while--none of them admitted to
having this gift in all this time. They told their stories like they had to
apologize--like they were Sodomites coming out of the closet! One said, "You
may kick me out of the study."
musterion
Who interpreted?
A woman who knows Hebrew. She said was angry asked if her husband knew
that she was in love with a Jew.
By the way groanings too deep for words (Ro 8:26-28)
are not tongues (Acts 2:3, 4).
See:
Groanings Too Deep for Words (Romans 8:26-28) Grace to You
Grosnick Marowbe
I sincerely believe that God isn't appearing to or audibly speaking
to people in this Dispensation of Grace...
I don't know what kind of ears you have (Jn
12:29,
Mk 4:9).
Those books were pertaining to the House
of Israel.
"Not all of the bible is written to you but all of the bible is written for
you." 2 Ti 2:15 ~ J. Vernon McGee
Interplanner
...There was the pre-Christian era and now there is Christ.
The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed. The New Testament is the
Old Testament revealed. This guy's a regular Thomas Jefferson--cutting out
any challenging verse of scripture. No eyes to see, no ears to hear.
*Shake off the dust from your feet
moment*
Related:
Lordship
TweetyBird
We must test all things.
TweetyBird
[Pouring out of the spirit now, tongues, dreams visions, etc.] ...[T]hey
are not spiritual blessings...
Why is your greatest rebuke for the andyc and not for the clown who ran
around pretending that she had the gift of tongues (1 Cor. 14:22–26).
If you need to sit someone down to tell then what a retard they are
then why not start there?
The tares resist the blowing of the wind (Mt
13:30).
You can have as much of the Lord as you want (Jn
3:34).
When the Holy Spirit (Jn
7:38 KJV) is poured out on all flesh (Joe
2:28)--the water's breaking in the earth.
Related:
Birth Pangs
DAN P
...[W]ill you tell us what
John 7:38 means?
Jesus offers living waters.
SaulToPaul
What was the last prophecy you gave that came to pass?
I'll answer your question when you
answer mine (1,
2).
"Y’all go up to the mountain, me and my golden calf are going to worship
right here." (Stone).
Grosnick Marowbe
I'm beginning to think "Danoh" is a disrupter and a "double-Agent"
of sorts.
Do you see
black
helicopters, too?
Jews call it
the language of God (Glick).
andyc
Yes I claim to be supernatural, cause God is supernatural, and he lives
in me. You are natural....which means......well......carnal.
Carnal means "meat". And yes, you are a meat head.
"You are a Meathead."
~ Archie Bunker, All in the Family
And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid,
betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her;
she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was
not free.
And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD, unto the door of
the tabernacle of the congregation, even a ram for a trespass offering.
And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the
trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and
the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him [Lev.
19:20–22].
"This goes back to the seventh commandment. This protects the
bond–woman. This raises the natural question, “Is God lending approval
to slavery?” No. God is recognizing the sinful situation caused by the
hard hearts of men, just as He did in the case of divorce (Matt.
19:8). It was recognized as a sin on the part of the man, for he had
to bring a trespass offering. The woman did not bring an offering."
McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Law (Leviticus
15-27) (electronic ed., Vol. 7, p. 69). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
andyc
[Continued persecution from others]
The Lord speaks to: the poor in spirit, those who mourn, those who are
meek, those who hunger and thirst, those who are merciful, those who are
pure in heart, those who are peacemakers, those who are persecuted (Mt
5:3-10).
john w
[Insinuates southern Charismatics are not saved] ...Toucheth Nawt
the Laaaaaawd's anointed...
andyc
You anointed?
No (Jn
8:37,
Re 12:10). These are the same folks that reject
Lordship. Their horns eventually show (Mt
7:20).
As a reminder john w is number 58 on
Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list)
in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians)
category.
Grosnick Marowbe
Andycnotruth, looks as if you haven't made many friends around TOL. I
wonder why? Nah, I'm just kidding, I know why.
A man is known by the friends he has
and by the friends he doesn't have.
Darkness is offended by the light.
Jn 3:19
john w
Logical fallacy.
Which one?
Eph 4:14
Jud 1:20
The priest would
anoint the goat’s head with oil and the smell of the burning oil down the
way would make—not the sheep—but the goats sneeze.
David’s brothers were annoyed about his anointing, too.
The God-haters laughed at: the D.L. Moody revival, the Welsh revival, the
Armenian outpouring, the Parham revival, the Azuza street revival, the Jesus
movement and the Charismatic renewal.
He who laughs last, laughs best.
Grosnick Marowbe
[To another member] No wonder you have only 102 thanks.
Bandwagon
Eph 4:14
Grosnick Marowbe
...He and SD are extremely immature...
How would you know?
You have me on ignore, remember?
Eph 4:14
Grosnick Marowbe
[Gladis now claims to have added andyc to ignore] ...Both Andy and
SD have that same "Comeback syndrome" ...
How would you know?
You have us on ignore, remember?
Eph 4:14
We were discussing the gift of tongues not the gift of gossip (Lev
19:16).
Who let the hogs out? Oink
Oink Oink
Oink
Jud 18
There has to be an early rain and a latter rain. You have to have it to
get the ground ready for the seed. If you don’t, the harvest
doesn’t grow.
Be glad then, you children of Zion,
And rejoice in the Lord your God;
For He has given you the former rain faithfully,
And He will cause the rain to come down for you—
The former rain,
And the latter rain in the first month (Joe 2:23).
DAN P
So what is your point? Should we plant wheat and grapes!
Would you like to plant wheat and grapes?
The husbandman waits for the early rain and the later rain.
They've got Abraham/Hagar flesh thinking not Abraham/Sarah new
covenant thinking. Too bad they don't understand the things of the
spirit (1
Co 1:18). They mock things of the spirit
just as God said they would (Jud
18).
"Too bad."
~ Seth Brundle, The Fly
The covenant of the spirit offers more.
Teen goalie wakes up from coma speaking different language
TweetyBird
Maybe you got it wrong after all ...
"...Believers are neither to forbid speaking in tongues (1
Co 14:39)6
nor discount the Spirit’s movement in the last days [e.g. dreams
and visions] (1
Thess 5:20-22) as spoken about by
the prophet Joel (Joe
2:28). The bible says that signs
will accompany those who believe (Mk
16:17)." Full text:
Steve Cioccolanti AOG Bible Study
Reply to Tammy Kohler
I'm really tired of the bickering. I understand that it's
human nature and we all want to defend our beliefs and our faith, but shouldn't
we all be on the same side?
1 Co 11:19
…Just because someone doesn't believe the same as you,
doesn't mean they aren't born again.
It doesn't mean they are (Mt 7:20).
…We need to distinguish between someone defending their
beliefs and an actual personal attack.
The Leftists can’t argue without an ad
hominem attack (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10); so, good luck with that.
Now with regards to speaking in tongues. With every
singe group I have ever belonged to, when the subject of speaking in tongues
gets brought up and someone dares to question it, the claws come out.
The false brethren repeat the same words
(Gal. 2:3-4).
Can’t you discern?
1 Cor.
12:10
Not from the ones who don't speak in tongues, but the
ones who do.
Who claim they do (Eph 4:14).
I have seen numerous people at numerous times,
completely switch their personalities into something they typically aren't. This
has left a bitter taste in my mouth and if speaking in tongues brings this out
in people, I want nothing to do with it and I will run every time.
Be sure
to
mock them before you leave.
People can debate hell fire, whether our souls live on
after we die, prophecy, or who the Antichrist is, all day long.
But tongues? That's what really dividing the church.
My pastor hosts a local Christian call-in
show on radio.
He
says tongues is the number one question that he is asked about.
Clearly, antichrists abuse tongues (1 Cor. 14:22–26).
I've seen it! I've lived it.
Expose them (Eph 5:11).
If there's one thing I've learned it's that there are
two groups of people. Those who speak in tongues, and those who don't.
And those who pretend to speak in tongues;
but, in actuality speak for the devil.
Their doctrine clues you into that, as well.
This is not from God…
Tongues could be from God —especially in the
last days (Acts 2:3, 4).
We aren’t to forbid it (1 Co 14:39); but, we sure as hell
are not to leave the frauds unchecked.
...God is not about division.
Satan is.
Do you suppose that I came to give peace on
earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division (Lk 12:51).
It’s ok for you to challenge the charlatan.
They are not supposed to speak in tongues unless there is an interpreter.
If there is no interpreter, do not allow
demons to speak.
Reply to
Midnight Hour Oil
[Tongues] Gary Bear is a fraud (Eph 5:11).
His so-called tongues mimic the other demonic false teachers (2 Pe 2:1).
Of course his doctrine is in error, as well (Ga 5:9).
Cc:
Bear049
Reply to Bear049:
"Serpent Dove your name says it all."
Eph 4:14
Why are you claiming to speak in tongues
when there is not an interpreter?
1
Co 14:27c–28
…[T]he problem with YouTube is those supposed
Christians like you…
Proof please (Eph 4:14).
…[W]ho have not read God's word…
Proof please (Eph 4:14).
If you had seen some of my videos…
I have (Eph 4:14).
…you would know that she is wrong about tongues and
other things.
Melissa is correct about the gift of
tongues and you’re a fraud (1 Cor. 14:22–26).
Do you not know Christ's own words. You and Midnight Oil
speak against the Holy Spirit…
Not speaking against the Holy Spirit (Eph
4:14).
Speaking against you (Eph 5:11, 2 Pe 2:1).
Why are you claiming to speak in tongues when there is not
an interpreter? 1 Co 14:27c–28
Reply to
Stone Sovryn
You didn't add any commentary to the post, just dropped
the link. So what did you think of it?
A few housekeeping items:
My comments are located
here.
See:
Chuck
Missler spiritual gifts are for today even tongues. What?
Speaking in Tongues
Lionel Nation 1 Cor. 14:22–26
Reply to
Winfrey
Where is your interpreter?
An interpreter cannot interpret nonsense.
He interprets known languages.
I hope you don’t expect interpreters to help you out with demonic
babblings.
Your friend Gary Bear does this
also
on his channel.
See:
202 Q&A on Praying Like a Pagan Darrell Ferguson
Speaking
in tongues