Catholic & Protestant Approaches to the Bible

Response to comment [from other]: "Martin Luther started the concept of Sola Scriptura."

Tell the prophet Isaiah that (Is. 55:11). Ps 119:130.

The Protestant Reformation was necessary.

See:

Martin Luther: Passionate Reformer

Watch the movie Luther (2003). Cruciform, you are the bad guy (Eph 4:14).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: ""...Protestant doctrinal chaos...some 38,000 competing non-Catholic denominations and sects...their own ideosyncratic theological opinions, with more being invented every week. Brilliant."

Too bad you're a legalist. "Too bad." ~ Seth Brundle, The Fly

“One of the most helpful and profound statements I have read in recent years for the understanding of contemporary church life is by Leith Anderson. He notes,

While the New Testament speaks often about churches, it is surprisingly silent about many matters that we associate with church structure and life. There is no mention of architecture, pulpits, lengths of typical sermons (or sermons!], rules for having a Sunday school. Little is said about style of music, order of worship, or times of church gatherings. There were no Bibles, denominations, camps, pastor’s conferences, or board meeting minutes. Those who strive to be New Testament churches must seek to live its principles and absolutes, not reproduce the details.

Those details simply aren’t given.

Now you might ask yourself, Why does the New Testament say nothing about all those matter to which the usual congregation today devotes almost all its thought and effort? Answer: Because those matters are not primary and will take care of themselves with little attention whenever what is primary is appropriately cared for. Pay attention to the “principles and absolutes” of the New Testament church and, one might suppose, everything else will fall into place—in large part because “everything else” really doesn’t matter much one way or the other. To fail to put the focus on those principles and absolutes, on the other hand, is to wander off into a state of distraction, which is where most of our local congregations actually are. They wind up majoring on minors and allowing the majors, from the New Testament point of view, to disappear (Willard, pg. 235-236).”

"...[E]vasive non-answer"

Do you have faith in the wisdom of men or in the power of God? 1 Cor 2:4-5. Are you in love with your church or with the Lord Jesus? "...[A]void making the vessel the treasure. We can identify the treasure without reference to any vessel, though the treasure will always have a vessel (Willard, pg. 239)."

Objective truth comes from God's word (2 Tim. 2:15; Jas. 1:18).  Men lie (Ga 1:6-8, Mt 15:9, Eph 4:14). :olinger: God does not (Nu 23:19). :Poly:

"Sometimes the church needs division. Without division they cannot have multiplication." ~ Woodrow Kroll Jude 16

Response to comment [from other]: "I wanted to be a cop when I grew up, do you just hope to make your own arguments?"

Grow up then reapply. I believe they have mental stability requirements.

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: [Do you have faith in the wisdom of men or in the power of God? 1 Cor 2:4-5.] "Do you have faith in the wisdom of men...or in the wisdom of God..."

I have faith in God's wisdom (1 Sa 2:3; Job 9:4). It is perfect (Job 36:4; 37:16). Your Pope is not perfect. Yours is mindless wisdom (e.g. making decisions without rational, logical reasoning). What makes you a superstitious mystic is that you believe things apart from evidence (Ferguson).

We call you Cruci-form-of-godliness-but-denying-the-power-thereof (2 Ti 3:5) because you trust in men's wisdom. A Christian would have said he trusts in the power of God (1 Cor 2:4-5). Men lie (Ga 1:6-8, Mt 15:9, Eph 4:14). God does not (Nu 23:19).

"Are you in love with your preferred non-Catholic doctrinal tradition..."

I love the truth (Jn 1:1). Why don't you? Jn 3:19. Why do you tolerate these false teachings from your church?

"...[S]erpent's interpretations of the bible are lies."

You'd better check for yourself against God's word (Ac 17:11). Where I depart from the word of God, reject what I say (1 Cor 2:1).

"The Pope, however, does teach infallibly with respect to formal Christian doctrine."

They teach error well (Ga 5:9).

See:

No Idolatry & False Teaching

False Catholic Traditions
Knowledge is not enough. Even the demons have that and so does the Pope (Jas 2:19). You need knowledge, insight, and finally intimacy. You cannot be saved until you understand the gospel of grace (Ezr 7:25, Gen. 15:6; Gen. 20:6; Deut. 7:6–9; Deut. 9:4–6; Job 10:12; Job 22:2, 3; Psa. 94:17–19; Psa. 138:3; Psa. 143:11; Dan. 9:18; Dan. 10:18, 19; John 6:44, 45; John 17:11, 12, 15; Acts 4:29, 30; Acts 26:22; Rom. 3:22–24; Rom. 4:4, 16; Rom. 5:2, 6–8, 15–21; Rom. 9:10–16; Rom. 11:5, 6; 1 Cor. 1:4–8; 1 Cor. 10:13; 1 Cor. 15:10; 2 Cor. 1:12; Gal. 1:14, 16; Eph. 1:5–9, 11, 12; Eph. 2:8, 9; Eph. 3:16; Eph. 4:7; Eph. 6:10; Phil. 1:19; Phil. 2:13; 1 Thess. 1:1 1 Thess. 5:28; 2 Pet. 1:2; 1 Tim. 1:14; 2 Tim. 1:1, 9; Tit. 3:7; 1 Pet. 1:5; 1 Pet. 4:10; 1 Pet. 5:10; Jude 1, 21, 24, 25; Rev. 3:10).

See:

Audio Pt 7a, 7b, From the Series: Loving God with all your Heart by Dr. Darrell Ferguson (right click, open)

"...[Y]ou ultimately trust in your own theological preferences and opinions---that is, in "men's wisdom.""

I ultimately use my brain. Love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind. (Mk 12:30).

"Every verse of the Bible means exactly what the author intended it to mean..." Full text: How to Interpret the Bible by Darrell Ferguson

See:

Hermeneutics

"...[S]erpent is a man; therefore, serpent is lying. For that matter, the apostles were men; therefore, the apostles were lying."

Christ taught out of the scriptures, he must have been lying, too (Lk 24:27).

For the Catholic, man's word is the final authority. For the Christian, God's word is the final authority.

"We have different authorities, we believe different gospels, we worship different Christs, we are led by different spirits and we are on different paths to eternity. Compare this with the unity the apostle Paul described with those who are in one body and one ......Spirit, with one hope; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, on God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all (Eph 4:4-6)..." Full text: No Idolatry & False Teaching

[Check God's word for yourself] "I do---just not against serpent's favored interpretations of God's word. Big difference there."
 

Love God with all your mind (Ps 104:34).  The scriptures are full and sufficient (Lk 16:29,31), an unerring guide (Pr 6:23; 2 Pe 1:19), able to make men wise unto salvation through faith in Christ Jesus (2 Ti 3:15).

[Where I depart from the word of God, reject what I say.] "I do, which is why I'm a Catholic."

Plenty of Catholics will go to hell (plenty of Protestants will too by the way). We don't go to heaven or hell based on church affiliation. We go to heaven or hell based on a right relationship with Jesus Christ (Isa 45:25; 53:11). Get to know him in his word (Phil 3:8). You cannot love God without your mind (Eph 1:17).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "[W]hy are there numerous "Christian" denominations?"

"To answer this question, we must first differentiate between denominations within the body of Christ and non-Christian cults and false religions..." Full text: Why are there so many Christian denominations?

There are two types of people--the righteous and the wicked. We have no righteousness of our own (Job 15:14; Ps 14:3; Ro 3:10). No one will be justified by their "good" works (Ro 3:20; 9:31,32; Ga 2:16). No one will be saved by their "good" works (Eph 2:8,9; 2 Ti 1:9; Tit 3:5). Unregenerate men are stuck on stupid (Lu 18:9; Ro 10:3). We must be found in Christ (Isa 45:24; 54:17; 2 Co 5:21). Saints have his righteousness imputed (Ro 4:11,22).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "...[C]ontradicting doctrines can't all be equally authoritative.  So whose interpretation is correct, and how do we know?"

Study (2 Ti 2:5). Don't be lazy (Mt 7:14) and don't be impressed by appearances (Jude 16 [lusts here: earthly, sensual, demonic]).

The path to God never violates wisdom. Which passage of the Bible can you understand without your mind? None. Ferguson. 1 Jn 5:20

See:

Audio Pt 7a, 7b, From the Series: Loving God with all your Heart by Dr. Darrell Ferguson (right click, open)

Let the reader decide. Summary

You argue like a typical Catholic.

See:

Seeking His Truth: Letters of Rebuke, Affirmation and Encouragement, pg. 4

Response to comment [from a Christian]: "...The authoritative teaching of the Word of God is the result of reading studying, prayerful consideration and believing..."

Do you reject the trinity? Mt 3:16,17; 28:19; Ro 8:9; 1Co 12:3-6; 2Co 13:14; Eph 4:4-6; 1Pe 1:2; Jude 1:20,21; Re 1:4,5.

The scriptures guide the believer (Ps. 119:133).

[[Rescuing Precious Souls from the Bondage of Religion Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "We can be wrong about a lot of things in this life and still survive, but if we are wrong about the only way to obtain forgiveness from God, we will pay for that fatal mistake throughout all eternity. Our Creator provides only one way to redeem man from sin and He has revealed it in a divinely inspired message to mankind. However, it didn't take long for God's complete and perfect Gospel message to be corrupted by religious leaders. These men, who say they speak for God, have distorted and perverted this good news of God's mercy and grace. Their unstated goal has been to control people by keeping them in legalistic bondage to their authority. The Lord Jesus revealed the only way of escape from this bondage. He said: "If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:31-32)." Full text: Rescuing Precious Souls from the Bondage of Religion

"When you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are not gods." (Gal. 4:8)

"James 2:21,22,23,24...[W]hat is the Protestant approach to the Bible?"

We believe the Bible (Jas 1:18).

"2:21 justified by works. This does not contradict Paul’s clear teaching that Abraham was justified before God by grace alone through faith alone (Rom. 3:20; 4:1–25; Gal. 3:6,11). For several reasons, James cannot mean that Abraham was constituted righteous before God because of his own good works: 1) James already stressed that salvation is a gracious gift (1:17,18); 2) in the middle of this disputed passage (v. 23), James quoted Gen. 15:6, which forcefully claims that God credited righteousness to Abraham solely on the basis of his faith (see notes on Rom. 1:17; 3:24; 4:1–25); and 3) the work that James said justified Abraham was his offering up of Isaac (Gen. 22:9,12), an event that occurred many years after he first exercised faith and was declared righteous before God (Gen. 12:1–7; 15:6). Instead, Abraham’s offering of Isaac demonstrated the genuineness of his faith and the reality of his justification before God. James is emphasizing the vindication before others of a man’s claim to salvation. James’ teaching perfectly complements Paul’s writings; salvation is determined by faith alone (Eph. 2:8,9) and demonstrated by faithfulness to obey God’s will alone (Eph. 2:10).

2:22 was made perfect. This refers to bringing something to its end, or to its fullness. Just as a fruit tree has not arrived at its goal until it bears fruit, faith has not reached its end until it demonstrates itself in a righteous life.

2:23 the Scripture … says. Quoted from Gen. 15:6; see notes on Rom. 4:1–5. friend of God. Abraham is so called in 2 Chr. 20:7 and Is. 41:8 because of his obedience (John 15:14,15).

2:24 justified by works, and not by faith only. See note on v. 21." MacArthur, John Jr: The MacArthur Study Bible. electronic ed. Nashville : Word Pub., 1997, c1997, S. Jas 2:21

See:

A Scriptural Response to: Biblical Evidence or Catholics St. Joseph Communication

[Establish the Supreme Authority for Truth Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "Reaching those who are being held captive by religious indoctrination must always begin by establishing the Bible as the supreme authority for knowing God's Gospel. Christ and His Word must rule over man's religious traditions because God has exalted His Word above all things (Psalm 138:2). The word of God is infallible and has no equal (Isa. 55:10). The Bible is the most authoritative, influential and powerful book ever written. It is the standard for discerning truth from error (1 John 4:6). It is sufficient to function as the sole, infallible rule of faith (2 Tim. 3:14-16). The Bible does not refer us to any other rule of faith because everything we must know, understand and believe to be reconciled to God is found in Scripture (1 Cor. 15:1-4). Whenever we are confronted by two or more opinions, we must always ask, "But what does the Scripture say?" (Gal. 4:30)." Full text: Establish the Supreme Authority for Truth  

"2:8 faith, and that not of yourselves. “That” refers to the entire previous statement of salvation, not only the grace but the faith. Although men are required to believe for salvation, even that faith is part of the gift of God which saves and cannot be exercised by one’s own power. God’s grace is preeminent in every aspect of salvation (cf. Rom. 3:20; Gal. 2:16).

2:10 created in … for good works. Good works cannot produce salvation but are subsequent and resultant God-empowered fruits and evidences of it (cf. John 15:8; Phil. 2:12, 13; 2 Tim. 3:17; Titus 2:14; James 2:16–26). which God prepared beforehand. Like his salvation, a believer’s sanctification and good works were ordained before time began (see notes on Rom. 8:29, 30)." MacArthur, John Jr: The MacArthur Study Bible. electronic ed. Nashville : Word Pub., 1997, c1997, S. Eph 2:8

See:

A Scriptural Response to: Biblical Evidence or Catholics St. Joseph Communication

[What About The Traditions of Men? Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries]: "Roman Catholics reject the supreme authority of Scripture by elevating their tradition to the same level of authority. They defend their position by quoting St. Paul who wrote: "Stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us" (2 Thes. 2:15). But we must make a distinction between traditions which had already been taught by the apostles in the first century and the traditions established by men over the last 1900 years (2 Cor. 11:2 ; 2 Thes. 3:6).

Clearly there are certain apostolic traditions recorded in Scripture that Christians must embrace, but not all traditions are biblical. Paul encouraged us to make this distinction. He wrote: "See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ" (Col. 2:8). Paul is warning us that we can become ensnared by the traditions of men when they do not conform to Christ and His word. Tradition must always be subservient to Scripture because God's word is divinely inspired while tradition is not." Full text: What About The Traditions of Men?

[We are saved by grace alone (Eph 2:8-9), through faith alone (Eph 1:13; 2Ti 1:10), in Christ alone (Isa 45:21,22; 59:16; Ac 4:12).  Roman Catholics deny this (Jude 1:11).] "...[N]ot according to Scripture...."

Not when scripture is rejected (Jer 8:9, Jn 1:1).

"Lk 10:25,26,27,28, James 2:21,22,23,24"

Argument Ad Nauseam or Ad infinitum (Repetition)

See:

A Scriptural Response to: Biblical Evidence or Catholics St. Joseph Communication

[2:8 faith, and that not of yourselves. “That” refers to the entire previous statement of salvation, not only the grace but the faith. Although men are required to believe for salvation, even that faith is part of the gift of God which saves and cannot be exercised by one’s own power. God’s grace is preeminent in every aspect of salvation (cf. Rom. 3:20; Gal. 2:16).] "...[T]he Bible doesn't say that..."

"Not of works" means "of works" Eph 2:9

See:

Works vs. Faith

[What About "Infallible" Men? Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries]: "Roman Catholics also reject the supreme authority of Scripture by elevating its "infallible" bishops to be equal in authority. In practice, the bishops actually sit above Scripture by declaring no one else can give an authentic interpretation of the Word of God (Catechism of the Catholic Church, para. 85). Yet the Apostle Paul commended the Bereans (who were not bishops) for interpreting the Scriptures to verify the truthfulness of his teaching. "Now the Bereans...received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true" (Acts 17:11). It is quite clear that the apostle, who penned over half the New Testament, encouraged his listeners to submit to the supreme authority of the Hebrew Scriptures. The veracity of every man's message must be tested with the same Scriptural authority." Full text: What About "Infallible" Men?

God's word is relevant (Jer. 23:28).

[How Can We Rescue These Precious Souls? Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries]: "Paul provides the answer! "The Lord's bondservant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will" (2 Tim. 2:24-26). We must take note of the correct way to approach those who are being deceived by the clever, scheming, and subtle lies of the devil. We must lovingly confront them with gentleness, patience and humility and avoid being quarrelsome or argumentative. As we correct them, we must use the Scriptures and avoid giving our own opinions, experiences or philosophy. Saving faith comes from hearing the Word (Rom. 10:17).

Liberty from the bondage of sin and deception is found only in Christ. The Father sent Him to preach the Gospel to the poor, to proclaim release to the captives and to set free those who are downtrodden (Luke 4:18). Jesus also came to give sight to the blind because a veil of spiritual blindness covers every man's heart. However there is one condition that must be met: Paul declares: "whenever a man turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away" (2 Cor. 3:16). This means turning from fallible men and their traditions and turning to Christ and His infallible word!" Full text: How Can We Rescue These Precious Souls?

"...[Y]our comment is entirely irrelevant..."

God's word is relevant (Psa. 50:16, 17; Prov. 1:29, 30; Prov. 13:13; Isa. 5:24; Isa. 28:9–14; Isa. 30:9–11; Isa. 53:1; Jer. 6:10; Jer. 8:9; Hos. 8:12; Amos 2:12; Mic. 2:6; Luke 16:31; Luke 24:25; John 3:20; John 5:46, 47; John 8:37, 45; 1 Cor. 1:18, 22, 23; 2 Tim. 3:8; 2 Tim. 4:3, 4; 1 Pet. 2:8; 2 Pet. 3:15, 16; Rev. 22:19).

"God's word is relevant."

You removed the scripture from my quote. It is what you do (Eph 4:14).

God's word is relevant (Psa. 50:16, 17; Prov. 1:29, 30; Prov. 13:13; Isa. 5:24; Isa. 28:9–14; Isa. 30:9–11; Isa. 53:1; Jer. 6:10; Jer. 8:9; Hos. 8:12; Amos 2:12; Mic. 2:6; Luke 16:31; Luke 24:25; John 3:20; John 5:46, 47; John 8:37, 45; 1 Cor. 1:18, 22, 23; 2 Tim. 3:8; 2 Tim. 4:3, 4; 1 Pet. 2:8; 2 Pet. 3:15, 16; Rev. 22:19).

The word of God is effectual in the life of the believer (Is. 55:11).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: [Removing scripture from my quotes] "And why do I do this?..."

You don't have Christ (Eph 4:14, 2 Cor. 13:3–5).

Response to comment [from a "Christian"]: "...[A]nd "eternal life is rendered according to works" Rom 2:6,7..."

You will appear at the Great White Throne Judgment because you believe a works-based gospel (Jude 11). We will go the the Bema seat because we believe in a grace-based gospel. You will not stand because you have no righteousness of your own. We will because we do not trust in our own righteousness (Isa 61:10). We trust in Christ's righteousness (Ro 3:22).

See:

Satan, Inc. (TOL's heretic's list)

Who will render to every man according to his deeds [Rom. 2:6].

"He shall reward every man according to his works. Absolute justice is the criterion of the judgment or rewards. Man’s deeds stand before God in His holy light. No man in his right mind wants to be judged on this basis. Remember Cornelius—he was a good man, but he was lost." McGee, J. Vernon: Thru the Bible Commentary. electronic ed. Nashville : Thomas Nelson, 1997, c1981, S. 4:657-658

"2:6–10 See notes on 2:1–16. Although Scripture everywhere teaches that salvation is not on the basis of works (see notes on 4:1–4; Eph. 2:8, 9), it consistently teaches that God’s judgment is always on the basis of a man’s deeds (Is. 3:10, 11; Jer. 17:10; John 5:28, 29; 1 Cor. 3:8; 2 Cor. 5:10; Gal. 6:7–9; cf. Rom. 14:12). Paul describes the deeds of two distinct groups: the redeemed (vv. 7, 10) and the unredeemed (vv. 8, 9). The deeds of the redeemed are not the basis of their salvation but the evidence of it. They are not perfect and are prone to sin, but there is undeniable evidence of righteousness in their lives (see notes on James 2:14–20, 26)." MacArthur, John Jr: The MacArthur Study Bible. electronic ed. Nashville : Word Pub., 1997, c1997, S. Ro 2:6

See:

What is the Great White Throne Judgment?

What is the Judgment Seat of Christ / Bema Seat of Christ? 

"I'll just accept Scripture..."

If you accepted scripture (Jn 1:1), you would tell the truth (Ga 2:16, Ro 3:20, 3:28). Seek first his kingdom and his righteousness (Mt 6:33).

See:

A Scriptural Response to: Biblical Evidence or Catholics St. Joseph Communication

"[A]men..."

Amen means we agree.  We do not (Eph 4:14).

See:

Works vs Faith

[Eph 4:14] "That verse doesn't say that."

"4:14 carried about with every wind of doctrine. Spiritually immature believers who are not grounded in the knowledge of Christ through God’s Word are inclined to uncritically accept every sort of beguiling doctrinal error and fallacious interpretation of Scripture promulgated by deceitful, false teachers in the church. They must learn discernment (1 Thess. 5:21, 22). See 3:1; 14:20. The NT is replete with warnings of such danger (Acts 20:30, 31; Rom. 16:17, 18; Gal. 1:6, 7; 1 Tim. 4:1–7; 2 Tim. 2:15–18; 2 Pet. 2:1–3)." MacArthur, John Jr: The MacArthur Study Bible. electronic ed. Nashville : Word Pub., 1997, c1997, S. Eph 4:14

"His goal for believers (4:12–16):

That they be equipped (4:12)
That they be mature (4:13)
That they be settled (4:14–16)"Willmington, H. L.: The Outline Bible. Wheaton, Ill. : Tyndale House Publishers, 1999, S. Eph 4:14-16

[Eph 4:14 carried about with every wind of doctrine...] "[D]o you mean the reformation?"  [21 Dec 2011 23:23:15]

Check what Protestants and Catholics say with the word of God (Ac 17:11).

Response to comment [from a Catholic]: "...[O]ne of the Protestant posters on this board asserts that he goes by the Bible alone yet repeatedly refused to answer questions or even to affirm certain Scriptures..."

A few housekeeping items:

When you don't like the biblical answer (Jn 1:1, Jn 3:19), you tend to claim that your concerns are not addressed.

You claimed that you did not get a sufficient response on Ro 2:6-7.

You claimed that you did not get a sufficient response on Heb 6:1, 2; Ac 8:17, 19:6.

You claimed that you did not get a sufficient response to DA Carson's writing.

To understand the Bible, you are going to need the Holy Spirit. Get yourself a savior (Mt 6:33) and then re-read.

"When you educate without the Holy Spirit you only get a clever devil." ~ Adrain Rogers

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

"I'm workin' with ya on this thing..." ~ Jerry Lundegaard "

"[D]o you affirm Rom 2:6,7..."

Argument Ad Nauseam or Ad infinitum (Repetition) link

"[W]hat does it mean to seek immortality through good works? Rom 2:6,7..."

Argument Ad Nauseam or Ad infinitum (Repetition) link

"...Lk 10: 25,26,27,28"

You will not receive eternal life by doing good works (Gal. 1:6–8). Your "good works" are insufficient for salvation (Psa. 49:7, 8; Psa. 127:1, 2; Eccl. 1:14; Isa. 43:26; Isa. 57:12; Isa. 64:6; Ezek. 7:19; Ezek. 33:12–19; Dan. 9:18; Matt. 5:20; Luke 17:7–10; Luke 18:9–14; Acts 13:39; Rom. 3:20–31; Rom. 4:1–8 vs. 9–22.; Rom. 8:3; Rom. 9:16, 31, 32; Rom. 11:6; 1 Cor. 13:1–3; Gal. 2:16, 19, 21; Gal. 3:10–12, 21 vs. 1–29.; Gal. 4:9–11; Gal. 5:2, 4, 6, 18; Gal. 6:15; Eph. 2:8, 9; Phil. 3:3–9; Col. 2:20–23; 2 Tim. 1:9; Tit. 3:4, 5; Heb. 4:3–10; Heb. 6:1, 2; Heb. 9:1–14; Jas. 2:10, 11).
Plans and programs to do not save. Jesus saves (Isa 63:9; Eph 5:23). Jesus alone saves (Isa 45:21,22; 59:16; Ac 4:12).

See:

Jesus Gives Parable of the Good Samaritan

"...[T]he human traditional article you gave did not address the point in question: namely the giving of the Holy Spirit through human hands/works Heb 6:1,2, Acts 8:17, Acts 19:6"

Argument Ad Nauseam or Ad infinitum (Repetition) link

People are able to read and understand the Bible (2 Ti 3:16,17). That is why God gave it (2 Ti 3:15).

"...[Y]ou don't affirm Rom 2:6,7 in that link.  [W]hy won't you affirm that eternal life is rendered to each according to their works?"

Argument Ad Nauseam or Ad infinitum (Repetition) link

"I affirmed Eph 2:8,9, and showed that is what the N .T. Church Council of Trent said..."

Don't quote Eph 2:8-9 without (v. 10). We are saved unto good works (Eph 2:10). Your religion is work-based (Gal. 1:6–8). Christianity is faith-based (Ro 4:16).

It's not about your work. It's about his (Ac 11:21; 1 Co 2:5).

See:

Works vs Faith

What to "Do"

"[D]o you wish that Rom 2:6,7 wasn't in the Bible?..."

Argument Ad Nauseam or Ad infinitum (Repetition) Eph 4:14 link

Posted By patricius79:

what do you personally think of Rom 2:6,7?

do you wish that Rom 2:6,7 wasn't in the Bible? ...

do you wish that Rom 2:6,7 wasn't in the Bible?

you don't affirm Rom 2:6,7 in that link why...

you don't affirm Rom 2:6,7 in that link...

why won't you affirm that eternal life is rendered to each according to their works?

what does it mean to seek immortality through good works? Rom 2:6,7…

so you do affirm Rom 2:6,7 as such? cf. 1...

so you do affirm Rom 2:6,7 as such?

why do you refuse to affirm some Scripture?

why do you refuse to affirm some Scripture?

if you won't affirm Rom 2:6,7, then why do you attack the Biblical Church?

you are refusing to affirm Rom 2:6,7? Cf. 1...

you are refusing to affirm Rom 2:6,7?

Etc.

Catholic & Protestant Approaches to the Bible