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[Marriage valid even for the pagan heathen]

Amen! Even if two orgy, ceremony-murdering Satanists marry,...God is there joining them together!

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Reply to Truthification Chronicles

“I was married to one.”

You still are married (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3). Is this why you support child-killing, serial adulterer Trump? Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14, 2 Pe 2:1.Oh, give it a rest, Mr. Pharisee. You know nothing about it. Stop casting stones.

Oh, give it a rest, Mr. Pharisee.

Projection (Eph 4:14, Lk 11:53, 54, Jn 3:1–10, 8:44). Righteousness for the Pharisee was outward only (Lk 7:36–50). Christians walk with God (Eph 5:1-33, 8-9, Col 1:9-10, 1 Thess 4:1-5) and are declared positionally righteousness before him (Phil 3:9).

You know nothing about it. Stop casting stones.

They likely had committed the same sin and walk away in shame (Jn 8:9). You don’t even blush (Jer 6:15). Payday someday (2 Co 5:9-10).

Reply to Winfrey

[Winfrey compares self to Enoch]

As a reminder Winfrey does not preach/teach marriage permanence (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3). If you don’t get it right on marriage and family, it’s unlikely you’ll get much else right either (2 Pe 2:1).

Not like Enoch, not pleasing God, not going in the rapture (Ps 147:10-11, Jn 8:29, Ro 8:8, He 11:5-6, 13:16).

If only you were as concerned about sexual sin, Thyatira, as you are about smoking. :nono:

“You can smoke cigarettes and still go to heaven—in fact, you’ll probably get there sooner.” ~ Chuck Smith

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

See:

Midnight Cry- Wake Up! Pastor Dana Coverstone, Assemblies of God Churches and Post-Tribulation Walking by the Sprit Always

Reply to Winfrey

[Loving his appearing (2 Ti 4:6)]

Why do you look down on the godly who aren’t presently living ideal lives as you allegedly are (perhaps at the expense of another man whose wife you happen to be sleeping with each night--we don’t know because you don’t mention your so-called marriage :squint: [Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3]).

“Because the poor are plundered, because the needy groan, I will now arise,” says the LORD; “I will place him in the safety for which he longs.” Ps 12:5, ESV. Even truck drivers know this (2 Pe 2:1). :dizzy:

Reply to Winfrey

[I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, Than to dwell in the tents of wickedness (Ps 84:10). As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord (Josh 24:15).]

Does your adulteress (Ro 7:2-3, Lk 16:18) have a living husband? Her child is not your child. Do you have a wife that you have thus far failed to mention? How odd—a man who does not speak about his family. :squint:

I am not guilty by the blood of Jesus.

If you are an unrepentant serial adulterer (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3), you are not going in the rapture.

Even truck drivers know that (Rev. 2:6–15).

:hammer: Read all about your church— Thyatira (Rev. 2:18–24).

[Pererting and inverting God’s word (2 Pe 2:1, Jud 4)] Spiritual people and the law: they are like widows freed from their husbands [Ro 7:1–3].

…God's law is perpetual and ongoing (Mt 5:18). When did God nail do not murder, do not commit adultery to the cross? :smokie: Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14

Our law is higher not lower (Mt 5-7). :dizzy:

Reply to Pastor Green

[To another] …[J]ust like you we have a high view of marriage. We believe it is a covenant for life between a man and a woman, and that divorce is a tragedy. We also acknowledge the reality of sin.

Do you permit serial adultery with tranquility? Ex 20:14. Do you impliment church discipline as outlined in Mt 18:15–20? Who is permitted to sit comfortably in your church? The unrepentant serial adulterer or the victim of his crime? The church isn’t big enough for the two of them. One will have to go.

Regarding your position on remarrying your ex-spouse after she remarries, what is your take on Deuteronomy 24:1-4?

“If a man marries a woman, but she becomes displeasing to him because he finds something improper about her, he may write her a divorce certificate, hand it to her, and send her away from his house. If after leaving his house she goes and becomes another man’s wife, and the second man hates her, writes her a divorce certificate, hands it to her, and sends her away from his house or if he dies, the first husband who sent her away may not marry her again after she has been defiled, because that would be detestable to the LORD.” Dt 24:1–4

If a man was betrothed to a woman and found out prior to marriage that she was not a virgin, he could divorce her (e.g. not marry her).

In the OT when clean touches defiled, defiled makes clean defiled. In the NT when defiled becomes born again, he is considered clean (Is 1:18) and his brethern are not to say otherwise (Ac 10:15). The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife (1 Co 7).

Had he been an adulterer and then repents and returns to his wife, he will have to live with the consequence of his sin (e.g. his wife is not called to bondage (1 Co 7:15) [e.g. Sleeping with him again along with all of the women in his mind. His wife is not required to take on his VD (Ps 38:5)]. He wil likely have to do without the benefits of marriage. The Holy Spirit will guide the couple. He never left the covenant.

The exception clause in Matthew so many pastors use leading them to hell…". Are you saying that a wrong interpretation of scripture on this issue could determine one's salvation?

Sexual sinners are not going in the rapture (1 Jn 3:9, Re 3:10). Unrepentant sexual sinners are guarenteed to go into the tribulation (Re 2:18–24).

[Green invite to his brothel for coffee]

Maybe they serve good coffee —they don’t serve the Lord.

I also looked for a church in the: Denton, Lantana, Flower Mound area couldn’t find any who are faithful to God’s Word. Only the Korean one near us teaches that marriage permanence (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3). I’d rather deal with the language barrier and be near to my brethren (He 10:25) than to sit with a bunch of devils pretending to love God (Jn 13:27, 14:15).

Keep looking if you’d like. Fact is there is only a remnant of Christ followers on the earth (Jer. 31:7–9, Zeph. 3:12, 13). I don’t think they’re in the brothels.

Jesus left the building. Come out of her my people (Re 18:4).

Reply to Enyart

[Enyart: Christians need not keep a short accounts with God (e.g. apologize for wrong doing or confess their sin before him).]

Sounds to me like you do not have a right relationship with the Lord (Ro 8:14, 1 Jn 1:9). :hammer:

…God's law is perpetual and ongoing (Mt 5:18). When did God nail do not murder, do not commit adultery to the cross? Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14

Our law is higher not lower (Mt 5-7). :dizzy:

As a reminder Enyart does not preach/teach marriage permanence (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3). If you don’t get it right on marriage and family, it’s unlikely you’ll get much else right either (2 Pe 2:1).

Enyart does not discuss what he did to his wife... backstab photo thbackstab.gif

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness [1 John 1:9].

“If we confess our sins.” Here is another one of our “if’s.” We have seen several of them: “If we say that we have fellowship” (v. 6); “If we walk in the light” (v. 7); and “If we say that we have no sin” (v. 8). Now here is the right method for bringing together a sinful man and a holy God: confession of sins.

What does it mean to confess our sins? The word confess is from the Greek verb homologeo, meaning “to say the same thing.” Logeo means “to say” and homo means “the same.” You are to say the same thing that God says. When God in His Word says that the thing you did is sin, you are to get over on God’s side and look at it. And you are to say, “You are right, Lord, I say the same thing that You say. It is sin.” That is what it means to confess your sins. That, my friend, is one of the greatest needs in the church. This is God’s way for a Christian to deal with sin in his own life.

The other day I talked to a man who got into deep trouble. He divorced his wife—he found out that she had been unfaithful. He lost his home and lost his job. He was a very discouraged man. He said to me, “I want to serve God, and I have failed. I am a total failure.” I very frankly said to him, “Don’t cry on my shoulder. Go and tell God about it. He wants you to come to Him. Tell Him you have failed. Tell Him you have been wrong. Tell Him that you want to say the same thing about your sin that He says about it. Seek His help. He is your Father. You are in the family. You have lost your fellowship with Him, but you can have your fellowship restored. If you confess your sins, He is faithful and just to forgive you your sins.”

After we confess our sins, what does God do? He cleanses us. In the parable, the Prodigal Son came home from the far country smelling like a pigpen. You don’t think the father would have put a new robe on that ragged, dirty boy, smelling like that, do you? No, he gave him a good bath. The Roman world majored in cleanliness, and I am confident that the boy was bathed before that new robe was put on him. The next week he didn’t say, “Dad, I think I will be going to the far country and end up in the pigpen again.” Not that boy.

When you have confessed your sin, it means that you have turned from that sin. It means that you have said the same thing which God has said. Sin is a terrible thing. God hates it and now you hate it. But confession restores you to your Father. McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (1 John) (electronic ed., Vol. 56, pp. 32–34). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

Reply to Winfrey

[Marriage is: one man, one woman (Gen. 2:18–24) in covenant (Matt. 19:6) for life (Rom. 7:2, 3).] Bold in nonsense. Bold in obnoxiousness.

Christians are bold in: righteousness (Pr 28:1), prayer (Eph 6:18, 19) and fearless preaching (Acts 9:26–29). Winfrey likely sins against love (1 Jn 4:17).* Even truck drivers know that (Rev. 2:6–15). :dizzy:

*Winfrey does not discuss his so-called wife’s husband (if she bothered to marry him). Is he still alive? If he is, then Winfrey is a an unrepentant, serial adulterer (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3).

Reply to Winfrey

[Reconciliation in marriage]…unless you’re remarried.

False (2 Pe 2:1). Reconciliation is encouraged (1 Cor. 7:10–17). :hammer:

If you are re so-called married, you are a serial adulterer (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3). If this is your own situation Winfrey, repent.

Reply to Truthification Chronicles

Wouldn’t let Tammy Bruce speak…

You value the opinion of an open homosexual? :dizzy:

[Denies marriage permanence (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3)] When I was working with the online biblical ministry…

Less work. More repentance. :Poly:

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).

Reply to Winfrey

...[Pious Patrick audience of one]

Your audience has spoken. You are to go--and sin no more (Jn 8:11)—not keep sleeping with another man’s wife. :hammer: Even truck drivers know that.

You are not going in the rapture (2 Pe 2:1). :rapture: You are guaranteed to go into the Great Tribulation, :Poly: Thyatira (Rev. 2:18–24).

See:

Walking by the Spirit Always

[Claims that the church teaches: If one murders his wife and repents, he can still be a pastor; but, if he commits serial adultery, he cannot.]

:yawn: Strawman Eph 4:14

Is that what the Bible says? :dizzy: If your brother sins against you, forgive him? :freak: No, it does not. :Plain: It says: If your brother sins against you, rebuke him. If he repents, forgive him (Lk 17:3). :Poly:

You are not forgiven for sin that you commit every night with someone else’s wife. Christians do not live in habitual sin (1 Jn 3:9).

[The only unforgivalbe sin is sinning against the HS.]

Repentance (Ac 15:3) means turning from sin (Ac 9:35) toward Jesus (Ac 8:22). True repentance (Ac 9:1–20) begins with conviction of sin (Ac 2:37, 38).

Reply to Truthification Chronicles

“His [adulterer’s (Lk 16:18, Ro 7:2-3] boys just got here…” […Then asks subscribers to donate to feed her and her cat.]

Where is their mother (if your adulterer ever bothered to marry her)? :hammer: